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To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (TNG Episodes 322-325)
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Zaz
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7/23/07 7:54pm
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I was thinking of the successful moon landing in the late 60's.
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The2ndQuest
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7/23/07 8:06pm
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Ah, that was the earlier time travel episode (which actually took them back further ahead in time than the second trip...)
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Zaz
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7/25/07 4:42pm
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Whoops. 
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T2Q: how are you viewing these sets? Are you actually buying each season, or are you renting/Netflixing them?
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7/26/07 1:50am
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RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
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The files I'm being lent, at least in TOS's case, are, presumably, DVD rips (I may have easier access to the actual DVDs for subsequent series). I went that route mainly because it's easier for me to track my comments in a stream of conciousness type way as I view them, as well as making it easier for me to conform them to the episode order lists I'm referencing on tv.com.
However, I have caught a few episodes I've reviewed via the Remastered airings on NBC; but as those air out of order, I usually record my assessment but save it until I reach that point in the episode order before psoting it.
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Zaz
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8/9/07 4:37pm
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This thread is proving I don't know the original series as well as I thought I did. The Murphy's Rule of Television Reruns (which says that if you by chance see a rerun of a certain show on television is always the same episode, or one of few) applies. For me, it's always the Gunfight at the OK Corral, Adonais, or the giant cat one.
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11/6/07 5:35pm
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301: Spock's Brain:
-Premise: When a mysterious woman invades the Enterprise and removes Spock's Brain, the crew rush to recover it before his body decays.
-T2Q Comments: Well, I knew what I was getting into with this episode, as it's reputation preceeds it. Oddly enough, I don't think this episode was as bad as people make it out to be. Despite being a fairly ridiculous concept (particularly Remote Control Zombie Spock (tm) ), it's a surprisingly cringeless episode, which is more than I can say about many other TOS episodes. The surgery montage of facial expresisons being a notable lowpoint- especially how they focus on Spock at least twice, despite him not being capable of any expresison at that point.
This one, while bad, doesn't make me want to throw my shoe through the screen, so I'll label this one merely "Forgettable".
Some remastered shots:
  
302: The Enterprise Incident:
-Premise: Captain Kirk becomes increasingly erratic and orders the Enterprise into Romulan space...where the ship is captured by a beautiful Romulan commander.
Heh-Romulans using Klingon designs, aka "we needed to save cash". Nice hammy "I'll......kill you!". Romulan Kirk- oh, they'll never be able to tell! Other than that, this one was pretty good though, and brings the Romulans to the forefront again as villians. On that alone, this one gets a "Definitely Essential" label.
303: The Paradise Syndrome:
-Premise: A stranded and amnesiac Kirk is mistaken as a god among a race of Ntaive American-like people while the crew work to deflect an asteroid on a collision course with the planet.
-T2Q Comments: This continues Season 2's habit of having time-period of the week episodes, this time with the "Native American Planet" (which, i kid you not, was apparently named "Amerind" in the script, though not identified as such on screen...thank god). But at least they bother to come up with a Stargate-like explaination of the "Wise Ones"/"Preservers" seeding human life across the galaxy, further explaining the abundance of humanoid aliens in the Trek universe. Anyone know if they elaborate on The Preservers elsewhere?
So Kirk is a God in this episode- Shatner musta loved this one, ha. Jealous Medicine Man plotline telegraphed and cliched though does have a genuine moment with him asking the chick if she'd choose him if permitted. Shatner in tribal paint and smiling, then to serious look with zoom, oh boy. Why bother stoning them? Worlds gonna end anyways. "This (tricorder) is familiar, yet unfamilair..." ...so i'll just drop it on the ground.
The asteroid plotline is actually quite good though, despite a rather awful "imagin this rock is a..." visual aid scene early on. Nice little bit with Spock faking going to sleep to placate McCoy. Really have to applaud the one FX shot that dollys in from behind the Enterprise forward towards the asteroid...it's unlike any other ship shot in the series so far, and rather dynamic in a subtle way. Scotty's frustration at the stress Spock is putting the ship through was amusing...btw, just what the hell is behind Scotty anyways? a nacelle interior?
Anyways, this one ended up being better than I had feared, so I'll group it in with the other so-so time-planet episodes, as it's at least equal to them: Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential.
Remastered shots (love the deflector beam shot; though I think they made an error changing the obilisk deflector to red, as it's described as the "blue flame" by the natives):
  
  
Up next: 304: And The Children Shall Lead, 305: Is There In Truth No Beauty? and 306: Spectre Of The Gun.
On a sidenote, I'd kill for this to be real. That looks fantastic.
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11/11/07 5:34pm
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RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 3
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As a catch-me-up, pics from various Remastered episodes that have aired over the past few months which I've reviewed previously:
Squire of Gothos:
  
This Side of Paradise:
  
The Conscience of the King:
  
The Man Trap:
  
The Gamemasters of Triwhatselion:
  
Dagger of the Mind:
  
What Are Little Girls Made Of?
  
The Galileo Seven:
  
  
  
Charlie X:
  
Miri:
  
  
Bread & Circuses:
  
Patterns of Force:
  
Tommorrow is Yesterday:
  
  
  
A Piece of the Action & Return to Tommorow:
 
Metamorphosis:
  
And this weekend we get The Deadly Years:
  
EDIT: FX Video for The Deadly Years
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306: Spectre of the Gun:
-Premise: When coming to an exaphobic isolationist planet, Captain Kirk and his landing party are punished for trepassing. They are sentenced to death in a surreal recreation of the Gunfight at the OK Corral with the landing on the losing side.
-T2Q Comments: Now, I love time travel and all, but by this point in the show it seems like they really should have just made the show about time exploration instead of space exploration, because half these shows are either time travel epsiodes, time travel episodes in all but name, or an excuse to use essentially a time period set. Time Trek in all but name, really.
That said, once you get over the western elements, this was a pretty good episode, unhindered by any 60's syndrome issues, though it is harmed by the obvious budget-saving partial sets, regardless how they explained it away. Creepy looking alien- really wish I could see a modern version actual moving.
I find it annoying that Chechov would allow himself to be provoked into a confrontation over and with what they knew to be illusionary people.
Despite knowing that the people aren't real, it does seem as if the Matrixy "if your mind doesn't think the bullets are real, they can't kill you" conlusion is reached in a rushed manner, though that's a minor issue. Guns sure had a lot of ammo in them (though since its an illusion, I suppose that doesn't matter).
The "you did not kill?" bit from the aliens is a retread of Arena's ending, though this episode is executed a lot better than that one. Additionally, the subsequent moral conclusion aboard the bridge feels like "time for the obligatory lesson of the episode" and thus feels a bit forced in there.
In the end, there's not much to really complain about, but it's certainly not an essential episode, but does fit right in with the time period planet of the week pattern of episodes throughout most of this series, so it gets a "Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential".
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301: Spock's Brain:
Awful.
302: The Enterprise Incident:
I recall this one as pretty good.
303: The Paradise Syndrome:
I think this one has a little too much going on for non-chaotic results. "Amerind" refers to "Amerindian" I would guess.
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American Indian was what struck me first. It's like calling the Nazi Germany planet Naziger.
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11/14/07 7:54am
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Zaz
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306: Spectre of the Gun:
Nope, this is essential, if only for the concept, which is brilliant...getting the roles of the Clantons in a famous reinactment.
And I love Chekov getting plugged, just shoot me (too).
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Chekov was amusing in the episode, definitely.
For the most part, I'd equate this with the other time-planet TOS episodes- they're certainly notable and (usually) fun, but they're not particularly relevant to the rest of the franchise, and so you don't have to watch them, technically.
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11/16/07 2:05pm
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You don't have to watch any of them. But this one is one of my favorites.
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