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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 3/11/07 8:08pm Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	Agreed. And, for status report- I haven't had the chance to watch too many eps lately, though I've got a couple done towards the next batch, and have been catching a couple of the enahcned ones on TV, so I'll be able to go a little quicker when I come to them in the episode order. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 3/23/07 9:55am Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	Well, you're on page six, so you need to find those episodes...just warning you, I've been known to use cattle prods...
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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 6/13/07 12:24am Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2 - Date Edited: 6/13/07 12:32am (4 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Sorry I've been away from this for a bit- the first two of these next three I actually watched awhile back, so my comments will be brief on them since I'm probably forgetting some specifics. 211: Friday's Child: -Premise: Kirk, Spock and McCoy must flee with a pregnant woman after an attempt to establish a mining treaty with the local population is interrupted by Klingon manpulation. -T2Q Comments: Someone call Q- more people have stolen headwear from his silly hats collection. Overall, this ep was kinda dull- didn't care for the intrigue, though I give the episode credit for having a semi-strong female character for once (the slapping scene between her and McCoy in particular). The cuchie-coo humor at the end sucks though. Groan-inducing, that. Scotty's subplot with the Klingon ship doesn't add up to much in the long run as well, though it does serve it's purpose, it's almost filler in a way, though it had potential to be more. Despite the presence of Klingons, not much here worth seeing. The Klingons make it borderline "Potentially Essential, But Not Necessarily Good", but could easily be downgraded to "Average" or "Ok". 212: The Deadly Years: -Premise: The command staff is infected with a disease that causes rapid aging, Commodore Stocker must consider taking command from Kirk when faced with a link of the disease to the Romulans. -T2Q Comments: First off, the aging makeup is obviosuly not very convincing (Shatner's hairline would never receed ! ). Beyond that, the actual aging and onsetting senility to the characters comes across as silly, but there are a few decent elements here. There's a fun throwback reference to the Corbomite Manuever here, the "I'm going to run out of samples" line by Chechov was good, and Commodore Stocker is a pretty decent character, probably the best Starfleet command character we've seen above Kirk- more low key is his demeanor, and lacking the over-the-top expressions that Decker's actor was prone to. It's a shame the script forced artifical stupidity upon Stocker just so Kirk would seem to be smarter, though he wasn't (for the most part) in this case. It's annoying, really. Looking forward to seeing this one remastered, as the battle with the Romulan ships could prove to be pretty neat. Due to the Romulan connection, I'll rank this one as "Potentially Essential, But Not Necessarily Good"- and is certainly on more solid footing than Friday's Child. 213: Obsession: -Premise: Kirk becomes obsessed with hunting down a gaseous creature he previously encountered more than a decade earlier when it killed many of his fellow crew on his first assignment after the academy. -T2Q Comments: Though the Ahab obsession storyline will eventually be done far better later on in First Contact by Picard, this episode does a pretty good job with it, and though it almost falls into the typical cliche of "obsession turns character into irrational, snappy, angry and paranoid person", it manages to pull itself back from teetering on the edge of that abyss (during the "conspire" scene on the bridge). The characterizations here are quite solid, and no 60's-cringe moments. Also, what a shocker- a named Red Shirt actually survives the episode, and wasn't annoying either! And, I must say, that big rock that's supposed to be 20 times harder than diamonds sounds an awful lot like a hollow wooden box when Kirk knocks on it- you'd think the sound effects people could have easily done something about that. Doesn't tie into anything much (other than yet another "Kirk's Academy years" backstory element the next movie will probably have to stumble around or through ), but a reccomended epiosde nonethless- "Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential". Now I'm officially about halfway through TOS ::) Up next, 214: Wolf in the Fold, 215: The Trouble With Tribbles and 216 - The Gamesters Of Triskelion. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 6/13/07 7:14am Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	I really need to rewatch the original show, because I don't think I've seen the first two. The last one I remember as pretty good.
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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 6/14/07 1:01am Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	214: Wolf in the Fold: -Premise: Scotty is the prime suspect in a series of murders he remembers nothing about. -T2Q Comments: An ok, if a tad cheesy, murder mystery- it's obvious it's not Scotty throughout the episode though and the allowance of circumstances that permitted the followup murders was a bit silly (how about we keep Scotty locked up instead of next to women who have a tendancy to end up dead when alone with him?). I liked Hengist as a character, though he devolution into villian takes away from him- especially once he becomes your typical "woooo-oooo!" dismebodied ghsot-like voice; though I rather like having the voice of Piglet playing a killer, hehe. And, much like how Stargate did the aliens-as-gods thing better than "Adonais", Babylon 5 did the whole "Jack Ripper is still alive" concept much better (albeit in a much different manner) than "Wolf". Not too cringe inducing, and not relevant to other episodes (outside of, apparently, an offhand comment made by Scotty in his TNG episode) so it gets ranked as "Average". 215: The Trouble With Tribbles: -Premise: Kirk must defuse a Klingon scheme to destroy a grain shipment...and cope with a seemingly benign creature known as a tribble, which reproduces at amazing speed. -T2Q Comments: Definitely one of the better humor-centric episodes, but also notable for at least connection with the events on Organia. Kirk's "I want these things off the ship I don't care if it takes every man we've got I want them off the ship." delivery kills me. And, not to mention these events are revisted in the well-known DS9 episode, so certainly a new entry amongst "Definite Essentials". 216 - The Gamesters Of Triskelion: -Premise: Kirk, Chekov, and Uhura are kidnapped and forced to participate in a series of gladiatorial games by gambling beings called The Providers. -T2Q Comments: Didn't really care for this one- more of the same, really. You've got the female character made to look foolish at Kirk's initially false advances, a search for the missing crew, gladiatorial combat, and aliens with highly evolved mental powers that capture other lesser beings for their entertainiment. There's at least half a dozen other episodes that contain one or more of those elements, hell, the latter concept is from the pilot and shown again in The Menagerie. McCoy's line "Can people live that long as dissembled atoms in a transporter beam?" struck me as particularly prohetic, given what will eventually happen to Scotty down the road. Scotty and McCoy's constant objections to Spock's course of action got annoying too- especially since it was McCoy who prodded him to find some kind of lead to begin with, so it doesn't make sense that he'd complain about Spock actually following one that he did find. Also, the final gladiator battle's rules are that Kirk can only stay in the yellow regions while the other slaves have to stay in the blue areas. And yet Kirk's first step of the fight is literally into the blue area, and error he repeats several times throughout the fight. Not much of a rule, hehe. Not completely terrible though, and if you've got a honkering for three colorfully glowing brains in a bubble, this is your episode "Ok Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential" Up next, 217: A Piece Of The Action, 218: The Immunity Syndrome and 219: A Private Little War. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 6/18/07 1:18am Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	217: A Piece of the Action: -Premise: Kirk, Spock and Bones are caught in between rival criminal syndicates on a world that has developed around the notions of 1920s Earth gangsters. -T2Q Comments: First of a few "time period planet of the week" episodes, essentially having an implausible scenario of a planet mimicing some period of Earth culture as a means to avoid doing another time travel story, even thoguh they are essentially some form of time travel story at heart. This particular one is silly (particularly when Kirk assumes the dialect), but funny and overall enjoyable. Apparently there is a setup to this episode in Enterprise with the Horizon being shown (including a copy of the Gangsters book aboard). Potentially Essential, But Not Necessarily Good. (though it's borderline with the Good category as well) 218: The Immunity Syndrome: -Premise: The Enterprise must destroy an enormous space amoeba before it reproduces and threatens known space -T2Q Comments: Good space creature problem type episode. Though yet another entire star system or two destroyed. Tarkin would be proud. Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential, though potentially average. 219: A Private Little War: -Premise: Klingon interference on a previous Eden-esque planet, through the introduction of firearms, begins a conflict amongst the locals that Kirk and McCoy must attempt to resume a balance between. -T2Q Comments: Ok, that first Evil White Horny Monkey jumping outta nowhere made me jump a bit, I'll admit. Slap, your Spock up. Slap, your Spock up. A nice downer ending that they don't try to lessen by adding last second cheap humor, though the Eden parable gets a little heavy handed. I'll also place this one aongst the "Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential" category, though the Klingon presence makes it borderline Essential. Up next, 220: Return to Tommorow, 221: Patterns of Force and 222: By Any Other Name. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 6/29/07 12:48pm Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	So just shoot me, I always loved the gangster one.
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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 7/3/07 3:35pm Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2 - Date Edited: 7/3/07 3:44pm (2 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Gonna break sequence here for one moment and jump ahead afew episodes to this past weekend's remastered episode, because I just had to comment on it now: 223: The Omega Glory: -Premise: After discovering the USS Exeter adrift and her crew reduced to crystalized remains, Kirk, Spock and McCoy (ok, and a Red Shirt- guess what happens to him ) are infected by the same agent that killed the Exeter's crew and are forced to stay on the planet below where natural immunization elements can keep them alive- if the Exeter's captain's search for immortality or the warring native factions don't kill them first. -T2Q Comments: Starship captains seem to be a bit wobbly for people who apparently supposed to be the best and most incorruptible- we've met three so far, one's a hounddog prone to acts of violence, anothers gone dark and murderous in the search for immortality and another who just went bat**** crazy. Wonder what the other 10 are like Good bit between Kirk and Spock- "Don't they ever rest?!" "Not that I have observed, Captain. However, should they wish to do so, one of them could rest while the other keeps you occupied." "Thank you , Mr Spock..." I don't recall there being other uses of Spock's little voodoo hypnosis ability- especially when it seems it'd had been useful to use in other situations they encountered. The episode's been actually pretty decent so far, though this communist/yankee parable seems forced in here at the end but as long as they don't take it too far...and nevermind...What. The. ***. Seriously? Seriously?* The American flag? The pledge of allegiance? The Constitution? In an alien world's history? You don't think you might want to, I dunno, EXPLAIN all that?! This episode seems to be two stories rolled into one, and this second half just sent this episode out into the far reaches of Just Plain Stupid (12 parsecs southeast of the rishi maze ), plummeting down the classification ladder. Only saving grace is the amusement of Shatner's over the top recitation of the constitution, so I'll be merciful and merely label this episode as "Forgettable", though I don't think I wish to subject myself to such idiocy again. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 7/15/07 7:30am Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	"Forgettable?" Unfortunately, not. I think the writers got into the brownies.
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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 7/15/07 8:36am Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2 - Date Edited: 7/15/07 8:37am (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Well, unfortunately I don't have a category titled "Stupid". The topper to the whole thing is that Gene was so proud of his script for this episode that he personally submitted it for Emmy consideration. Obviously, the man isn't quite the genius some say he is -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 7/15/07 9:07am Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	Omigod.
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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 7/21/07 5:43pm Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	220: Return to Tommorow: -Premise: The Enterprise discovers three discorporeal intelligences who seek their help in gaining physical bodies...but one of them has plans of his own. -T2Q Comments: There's a female crewmember! Quick! Romantic music ASAP! gasp! Spock seems surprised to have encountered a being of energy- but, they've encounetred, like, 4 already... Kirk's little board room speech is delivered just as ham-fisted as his Constitution delivery in The Omega Glory, but with the music, it just about works as a cheesy uplifting leader speech...until it ends with "get ready to beam aboard three recepticles" ; though it has a weak setup, the middle part of this episode almost plays out like an average episode of Stargate, until the inevitable "saw it coming" betrayal. Also, where do Kirk and the chick's mind go at the end while their bodies are being used? The two beings choosing to kill themselves also seems out of character- you don't fight for survival for a million years and then just give up like that. Come to think of it, this episode is basicly a less annoying remake of What Little Girls Are Made Of? Still, it's not a bad episode overall, so I'll classify it as "Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential" Interesting sidenote- the actress playing the Dr. Anne Mulhall character would later play Dr. Pulaski on TNG. 221: Patterns of Force: -Premise: The Enterprise seeks out a historical researcher with whom the Federation has lost contact, and discover he has contaminated a culture, remaking it into a near-duplicate of Nazi Germany -T2Q Comments: Ah, the Nazi episode. While having the potential to be bad, actually end sup being the best of the three" time-period planet of the week" episodes in this season. At least it's explained and not just merely coincidental (as in theupcoming Bread and Circuses), dependent on a specific alien trait (as in the A Piece of the Action mimicing traits of that planet's people) ir just plain frelling stupid (The Omega Glory, oh how you'll never hear the end of that from me, yes, my little pet, your pain shall be unending for my eternal amusement. Wait, where was I again? Oh yeah, Nazis.). Amusing line from Spock to Kirk: "You should make a very convincing Nazi". Gonna also go with "Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential" for this one. 222: By Any Other Name: -Premise: The Enterprise's command crew must thwart an invasion by aliens from another galaxy called Kelvins who plan to conquer this one. -T2Q Comments: There's mention of the galactic energy barrier and how Kirk and crew had been there already (from Where No Man Has Gone Before, which might retroactively upgrade that episode's status) and a less obvious reference to A Taste of Armageddon" when Spock used a mind ability to trick a guard through a wall; The "gold Kelvin chick" looks like DS9's Dax's daughter; Kirk's "are you mad?" reaction to the suggestion they destroy the enterprise to stop the enemy that has taken over her is amusing given Star Trek III's events. Gotta wonder why Scotty doesn't just beam either the transmitter or the Kelvins into space. So they try to stimulate human senses in the Kelvins- McCoy through food, Scotty through liquor, Spock through psychological manipulation and Kirk...through seduction that's just so silly it's great. The episode overall is pretty good, though, but is harmed by a semi-abrupt ending which has a "we're not sure how to really resolve this so lets just finish here" sense to it. The episode actually has a near-series-finale feel to it, what with the Enterprise coming full circle to the galactic barrier and all from the 2nd pilot. Gonna stretch things a bit and give this a "Definitely Essential" classification. 223: The Omega Glory: See earlier post Up next, the final three of Season 2! 224: The Ultimate Computer, 225: Bread and Circuses and 226: Assignment Earth. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 7/23/07 12:54pm Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2 - Date Edited: 11/11/07 3:30pm (2 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	224: The Ultimate Computer: -Premise: Starfleet uses the Enterprise to test a new super-sophisticated computer, but it soon develops a mind of its own. -T2Q Comments: Hmm, with this episode title, I wonder what Kirk's gonna do in this episode...yep, you guessed it- he'll talk the computer to death- Kirk: 5, Computers: 0. So yeah, basicly we have a Skynet situation aboard the Enterprise, with the computer's creator slowly going nuts because he's so devoted to it. The direction and camera angles are a bit too over the top and cheesy, but is a bit different than the norm for this series. There's actually some very good character inetraction and dialogue between the main three that works very well. Daystrom,the scientist, goes from being an interesting character to just pathetic, so that's a bit of a dissapointment. It was neat to see 4 Constitution ships on screen at once, and this whole war games scenario could be quite awesome when they get to it in the remastered series. So this ends up beinga bit mixed in the end, but still entertaining. With Daystrom apaprently being mentioned a lot in later Trek shows, I'll note this one as "Potentially Essential, But Not Necessarily Good" 225: Bread and Circuses: -Premise: The Enterprise encounters a planet whose culture is patterned on ancient Rome... and holds gladiatorial games that Kirk, Spock, and McCoy must fight in. -T2Q Comments: The third "time frame planet of the week" episode. Funny how in "Patterns of Force", Spock said it'd be almost impossible for a planet to develop exactly like a period in Earth history, using the same uniforms and iconography, yet here he has no problem with it happening. The episode isn't too bad- less annoying than "A Piece of the Action", as ludicris as the episode's premise is and it's blatant mnature as an excuse to get the characters into another gladiatorial-type battle. Potentially Essential, But Not Necessarily Good 226: Assignment Earth: -Premise: Kirk must decide whether to thwart or help a traveller sent to 1960s Earth on a secret mission. -T2Q Comments: This one was obviously a potential spinoff pilot, but not in a bad way- I would have liked to have seen this series happen. Overall this is a very solid little time travel episode, though it seems to treat time travel as a bit more routine than usual. Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential Up next- Season 3! So, as I come to the end of this season, I'll recap my journey so far: Definite Essentials: 110: The Corbomite Maneuver 114: Balance of Terror 119: Tommorow is Yesterday 122: Space Seed 126: Errand of Mercy 201: Amok Time 204: Mirror, Mirror 206: The Doomsday Machine 210: Journey to Babel 215: The Trouble With Tribbles 222: By Any Other Name Potentially Essential, But Not Necessarily Good: 118: Arena 209: Metamorphosis 211: Friday's Child 212: The Deadly Years 217: A Piece of the Action 224: The Ultimate Computer 225: Bread and Circuses Good Episodes, But Not Necessarily Essential: 127: The Alternative Factor 128: The City of the Edge of Forever 203: The Changeling 207: Catspaw 213: Obsession 218: The Immunity Syndrome 219: A Private Little War 221: Patterns of Force 220: Return to Tommorow 226: Assignment Earth Will Be Revisited & Reclassified: 107: What Are Little Girls Made Of? 109: Dagger of the Mind 113: The Conscience of the King 116: The Galileo Seven 117: The Squire of Gothos 121: The Return of the Archons 123: A Taste of Armageddo 125: Devil in the Dark Average Episodes: 129: Operation-Annihilate! 214: Wolf in the Fold 225: Bread and Circuses Ok Episodes, But Not Necessarily Essential: 100: The Cage 104: The Naked Time 105: The Enemy Within 111: The Menagerie 112: The Menagerie 124: This Side of Paradise 202: Who Mourns For Adonais 205: The Apple 208: I, Mudd 216: The Gamesters of Triskelion Forgettable: 103: Where No Man Has Gone Before 108: Miri 115: Shore Leave 120: Court Martial 223: The Omega Glory Trash: 101: The Man Trap 102: Charlie X 106: Mudd's Women Time Travel Log: -TOS: The City on the Edge of Forever (1930: NCC-1701 crew; from 2267) -TOS: Assignment Earth (1968: NCC-1701; from 2268) -TOS: Tommorow is Yesterday (1969: NCC-1701; from 2267) -TOS: The Naked Time (2266: NCC-1701 goes back in time 3 days; from 2266) Alternate Universe Log: -TOS: The Alternative Factor (Anti-Matter Universe) -TOS: Mirror, Mirror (Mirror Universe) -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 7/23/07 2:30pm Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	I would qualify the Nazis, the Kelvins, Bread and Circuses and the time travel one as all essential...the latter actually had an absolutely accurate prediction in it.
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The2ndQuest Title: : -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 7/23/07 7:47pm Subject: RE: To Boldly Go Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before: A Journey Through Star Trek (now on TOS Season 2
	Digging though episode guides, it actually had two correct predictions- the launch of a saturn rocket, as well as the political assassination. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Death Star K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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