Author Topic: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (No Line on the Horizon)
darth_frared  6397 posts
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Date Posted: 3/7/08 5:50am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Disc. the U2 Twentieth Anniversary)
maybe this could use an update on the grounds that the U2 3D movie has been released?

i watched it last weekend and apart from the awesomeness of 3D it didn't have all that much going for it, their theatricality really stinks. they sure understand showmanship, tho.

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 3/10/08 5:06am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Disc. the U2 Twentieth Anniversary)
darth_frared posted:
maybe this could use an update on the grounds that the U2 3D movie has been released?

i watched it last weekend and apart from the awesomeness of 3D it didn't have all that much going for it, their theatricality really stinks. they sure understand showmanship, tho.


Yes, I am very late in updating, mainly because I wanted to post more than just "U2 3D was released", and also because I haven't seen it yet. It opens here in Austria this week, and I definitely plan on seeing it. The "Bomb" tour was only the second one on which I didn't see them at least once (the other tour being the disastrous PopMart).

The reviews have been overwhelmingly positive (91% fresh at Rotten Tomatoes). Alot of the reviews I've seen call it groundbreaking in termso f pushing 3D technology forward.

Has anyone else seen it?

 

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darth_frared  6397 posts
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Date Posted: 3/10/08 5:12am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Disc. the U2 Twentieth Anniversary)
yeah i see.

incidentally it was the first concert and/or 3D movie i have seen so i have nothing whatsoever to compare it with grin

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 3/10/08 6:17am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Disc. the U2 Twentieth Anniversary)
The set list:
1. "Vertigo"
2. "Beautiful Day"
3. "New Year's Day"
4. "Sometimes You Can't Make It on Your Own"
5. "Love and Peace or Else"
6. "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
7. "Bullet the Blue Sky"
8. "Miss Sarajevo" / Reading of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
9. "Pride (In the Name of Love)"
10. "Where the Streets Have No Name"
11. "One"
First encore
12. "The Fly"
13. "With or Without You"
End credits
14. "Yahweh" [2][3]

That's a very short set, they usually play about 2 hours (the film is only 85 minutes), 18-20 songs. Interesting they close with Yahweh, I've obviously never see them perform that one before. I'll always prefer closing with 40, which was quintessentially to older U2 shows. Walk On was very good too, though. I'd imagine Vertigo works well as an opener.

As for your first comments, frared, U2 definitely put on a "show" everything is rehearsed/pre-arranged, I doubt there's really anything donew spontaneously (except for the identity of the girl Bono pulls out of the audience). They do it incredibly well, though.

 

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darth_frared  6397 posts
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Date Posted: 3/10/08 7:34am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Disc. the U2 Twentieth Anniversary)
i think they culled the film from several gigs in the same place, or else that makes the most sense to me.

what i got was near perfection in the show, nothing misplaced or off-key, a well-oiled machine. i didn't recognize a lot of the songs because i haven't listened to much of theirs for ages but it was certainly well done.

i suppose if you 'entertain' people at that scale (they seem to be over 1000) you have to rely on grander gestures than usual, and because they are essentially only 4 people working the crowd, they blew their act up a bit. i liked some of the graphics they did as a background but overall i prefer a downscaled concert of the sort that doesn't end in preachiness. (altho i'd have to say that i actually liked miss sarajevo)

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 5/26/08 7:10am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Disc. the U2 Twentieth Anniversary)
Well I finally managed to get myself to a theater to see this.I thought it was brilliant, both from the perspective of the show itself, and the 3D technology.

First, the show. I was a little skeptical going in, just because I tend to find U2 shows in non-English-speaking countries somewhat below par – Bono talks a lot during every show , which often tends to get lost on non-English-speaking audiences. This wasn’t the case here, Bono kept his talks to a bit of a minimum (quite the feat for him). Where he did talk to the crowd, he connected amazingly well.

I posted the set list above. Obviously it’s not a full show, U2 generally play about 20 songs. The set list contains mainly the bread and butter of any U2 show, with Vertigo opening the show as it did for most of the tour. Great stage setup, especially given how huge the stadium (Buenos Aires) was. Love and Piece or Else stuck out as a new song, liked how they had Larry Mullen on a podium on his own plying a bit of a military march rhythm. Miss Sarajevo, which was originally recorded with Luciano Pavarotti, seems to have become a staple of the Vertigo Tour, and really fits in quite well. I saw the movie with my brother, who lived in Sarajevo for 4 years, the song really hits home for him. Really amazing how well Bono sings the part that Pavarotti originally sang.

As for the 3D, it isn’t perfect, but was still fantastic. The director did a great job of moving around the shots, not an easy task given how much Bono runs around the stage and catwalk. You really didn’t get the impression that the director was limited by the technology at all. The close-ups of Bono and The Edge were amazing, like they were standing right in front of you. I also like the way she had many shots from just above the crowd, so that when someone raised their hands, it was as if it were right I front of. The main weakness was that sometimes the bodies seemed a bit “ghost-like”, like holograms. If Bono had leaned over a few times, I would have expected him to say “Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi, you’re our only hope.”

I especially loved the creativity the director showed on The Fly, where she took the words that wer eon the video screens in the stadium and suspending them in mid-air on the movie screen. That really added an extra dimension to the movie.

All in all, a tremendous concert movie using amazing technology.

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 7/25/08 12:15am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Now discussing U23D)
Well, after releasing the remastered Joshua Tree to celebrate the album's 20th anniversary, the band have now done the same for their first 3 albums, Boy, October and War.


u2.com posted:

First Three Remastered

Boy, October and War, U2's first three albums, have been remastered and are released on July 21st.

Following the remastered release of The Joshua Tree last year, Edge has now overseen re-mastering of Boy (1980), October (1981) and War (1983).

All three have been remastered from the original audio tapes. Each album will be released as a standard single disc, a deluxe double version including a disc of b-sides, live tracks and rarities, and an LP version pressed on 180gm virgin vinyl.

The packaging on all three titles has been restored and expanded, with new liner notes for each record, previously unseen photos and full lyrics.

The albums will come in three formats - the remastered single CD, a deluxe format including a bonus CD of b-sides, live tracks and rarities, and the vinyl format. A 16 page booklet features unseen photos, lyrics and liner notes from Paul Morley. Edge has contributed notes on the bonus material.

Speed of Life, Saturday Night and Cartoon World are among the rare and previously unreleased tracks featured in the reformatted edition of the band's first album, Boy.

Rare and live recordings from Hammersmith Palais in London, Paradise Theatre in Boston and BBC sessions with Richard Skinner are featured on the rereleased October.

The previously unreleased 'Angels Too Tied To The Ground' and rare b-sides 'Treasure (Whatever Happened to Pete the Chop)' and 'Endless Deep' are included in the rereleased War.



The website also gives the tracklists for each set.

All three look interesting because of the second disks (i have all three albms on both vinyl and cd). Boy and especially October have a number of songs that were released as singles but were never on albums (A Celebration, 11 O'Clock Tick Tock and Trash, Trampoline And The Party Girl) as well as someinteresting looking live performances. War's bonus disk is mainly remixes of New Year's Day and Two Hearts Beat as One. I remember versions of each that were great, espcially the latter. I spent years searching napster et al in vain for those.

Amazon (US) is also offering a box set of all three for $63.99.

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 8/8/08 2:59am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Now discussing U23D)
Rolling Stone did a review of the reissues, and Bono apparently decided to post a comment. Apparently he ran out of space, but RS published the full text in a seperate article:


Bono on rs.com posted:
Exclusive: Bono Remembers U2’s “Boy”

8/4/08, 6:25 pm EST

This could be the greatest comment on RollingStone.com ever:
U2’s Bono was reading David Fricke’s review of the new reissue of Boy, and was moved to respond. Unfortunately, he maxed out our word limit in the comments section, so we’re just going to post his text in full here. We’re not going to attempt to boil it down, except to say that he does mention that the band is presently attempting to finish their most “complete and radical album yet.” Without further ado:

Entering the blogosphere, a review of BOY from the singer who was one at the time of recording… We the members of said post punk combo are very complimented by DAVID FRICKES 4.5 star review of our debut, an album we always believed in. I remember now a generous JON PARELES review from the VILLAGE VOICE in 1980, a line something along the lines of “this is peter pan, I hope they break up before they grow up”. Anyway, as my band mates and I attempt to finish our most complete and radical album yet, here’s my why and what i think is right and wrong about BOY having listened to it for the first time in over twenty years if you start from the pseudo british accent and the little reported fact that the singer sounds like a girl, things don’t look too promising …the annoying gene is present in self consciousness and self immolation… you do want to give the singer a slap for lots of reasons but let’s start with the pretentiousness….the singer has obviously been listening to SIOUXIE AND THE BANSHEES, JOY DIVISION and a few others whose combined archness and artfulness was just too much for the freckled face teenager from northside of DUBLIN…. neither fully protestant or catholic, IRELAND had left the boy with a face like a baked bean and in search of a nonregional identity…a theme that continues to the present.

As for the non lyrics that Wunderkind STEVE LILYWHITE had begged him to no avail to write… well….the excuse is that in the manner of another POP idol, IGGY, they were for the most written live on the microphone ..this was noble in its search for authenticity but a very flawed idea that almost gauges the eyes out of the albums open face but alas, the strengths way out weigh the weaknesses…maybe because it was an album about vulnerability.. BOY eschews the usual subject matter of rock and roll’s hurry to deface its own innocence through knowingness, sex, drugs etc in favour of a refusal to grow up …think GUNTER GRASS’s Tin Drum VOLKER SCHLONDORFs film of the novel released the same year as BOY…

if ninetynine percent of rock and roll is about sex this one percenter is about virginity and not wanting to lose it…maleneÿss is more elusive here and I can see now why the album had such a connection in the gay community with songs like TWILIGHT and STORIES FOR BOYS.

Then there is the galling religious audacity of writing a song about agape love at eighteen years old….that alone deserves some gold stars as well as the custard pies.. I WILL FOLLOW is still a rush and a marker for innovation (the percussion in the drop was a bicycle spinning, wheels upside down and played like a harp with a kitchen fork…)

ADAM CLAYTONs bass is a revelation to me on this listen, and up there with JOHN ENTWISLE and PETER HOOK in its inventiveness… LARRY MULLEN too is jumping through hoops to create a circus of tom tom parts and spectral spectre like snaring…. giddying up and clearing the fence every time…. I agree with DAVID FRICKE that they are not yet a rhythm section in the traditional sense but maybe something more interesting … the ‘weight’ of U2….Steve LILYWHITES production deserves a lot of credit here for its sonic prowess, big music in little hands..

But the star of the show is THE EDGE some guitar credit must be shared with the groups that helped shape us, people like PINK FLOYD, PIL and TELEVISION… guitar players like STUART ADAMSON VINNIE REILLY etc but there is something happening here that is truly special…EDGEs genuine genius developing on the blank and bleached
photographic paper…. avoiding all the obvious blues scales that blind every other guitar player that ever heard LED ZEPPELIN …THE EDGE finds some new colours for the spectrum of rock. Colours he now owns … owning a colour, wow .. imagine owning the colour yellow like VAN GOGH… EDGE owns, well im not exactly sure what colours they are… indigo or violet or crimson?… but you sense an emotional colour temperature that is unique to him… its his palette we’re painting from. he’s following the jazzmen’s maxim to “own your own tone and you will become contagious ” and as a result you can hear him show up in lots of rooms hes not in, isn’t that right…?

Surely this is the most influential guitarist since the great composers JIMMY PAGE, PETE TOWNSEND,NEIL YOUNG but remember he doesn’t have the history of the blues to plumb, these are unchartered waters…was to the English psychedelic revival we were also inspired by and plundering .. THE TEARDROP EXPLODES and ECHO AND THE BUNNYMEN…they were better than us no doubt about it…with ECHOs CROCODILES a better debut on pretty much every level… that and their next album HEAVEN UP HERE having the same effect on their moment as RADIOHEADS BENDS AND OK COMPUTER. It was all there… songwriting, playing and standing in front of the mirror type coolness but of course the pursuit of coolness is rarely the same thing as the pursuit of art. This was obvious to a lot of our contempories too BUT maybe not enough..im not not talking about Teardrops or the Bunnyrabbits or Wah Heat! but for many of our peers, the most important bit was lifestyle and the fashion piece which we clearly were not very good at. And it is very very important…An almost essential companion to greatness… From ELVIS to THE BEATLES THE WHO to THE STONES THE CLASH to PRINCE, STYLE has been part of rocks revolution and evolution…. our only addition is comedic failure to fit into the grey or vivid clothes of rebellion and the crime of thinking no veneer was the utterly radical way to look and sound…and then there’s the other thing, the lifestyle….of course the life of the artist is always more compelling than being an artist. To live in the garret with a knife in your hand and a bleeding ear is more romantic than the fragility that leaves open the wound … Bohemia is more attractive than suburbia but maybe you don’t live there, maybe you live on a street which is like any other street where the opera that goes on behind parted curtains is more than enough…..It was briefly for U2.

you can have everything the songs, the production, the face, the attitude but still not have “IT”…U2 had nothing really, nothing but ‘IT’… For us music was a sacrament …an even more demanding and sometimes more demeaning thing than music as ART, we wanted to make a music to take you in and out of your body, out of your comfort zone, out of your self, as well as your bedroom, a music that finds you looking under your bed for God to protect your innocence…

…i’m proud of this little Polaroid of a life I cant fully recall. As well as the ability to make embarrassing mistakes, the demands of a great debut might be fresh ideas, fresh paint and sometimes for its canvas, a fresh face.

I miss my boyhood

Bono, 3rd august



Bit of a bizarre ramble, complete with references to himself in the third person.

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9/08 5:31am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Now discussing U23D)
Well, the rollout of reissues continues.


u2.com posted:
LIVE AT RED ROCKS AND UNDER A BLOOD RED SKY
You can now preorder the 'Live At Red Rocks' DVD and the live album 'Under a Blood Red Sky'. Details below

Recorded at the Red Rocks Amphitheatre in Colorado on 5th June 1983, Live at Red Rocks will be available for the first time on DVD at the end of this month, and will include 5 previously unreleased songs, a director’s commentary, digitally re-graded pictures and a 5.1 mix.

The remastered Under a Blood Red Sky album was originally released in November 1983, and consists of live recordings from three shows on the band’s War Tour through Europe and America.

A deluxe version featuring the Under a Blood Red Sky CD and the Live At Red Rocks DVD will be available, as well as single disc formats of the CD and DVD. An LP version of Under a Blood Red Sky pressed on 180gm virgin vinyl will also be released.

Here's the details if you want to get your order in now.

'Live at Red Rocks' DVD and 'Under A Blood Red Sky' CD
Pre Order UK
Pre Order USA

Here's the full tracklisting:
UNDER A BLOOD RED SKY

Gloria / 11 O’Clock Tick Tock / I Will Follow / Party Girl / Sunday Bloody Sunday / The Electric Co. / New Year’s Day / “40”

LIVE AT RED ROCKS

Out Of Control / Twilight / An Cat Dubh/Into The Heart / Surrender / Two Hearts Beat As One / Seconds / Sunday Bloody Sunday / Cry/The Electric Co.
/ October / New Year’s Day / I Threw A Brick Through A Window / A Day Without Me / Gloria / Party Girl / 11 O’Clock Tick Tock / I Will Follow / “40”

Both DVD and remastered album , will be released on 29th September 2008 in the UK and 30th September in the US.


The deluxe edition (with both UABRS and LARR) is listed at $27.99 at Amazon. The DVD is $13.99, the cd $7.97.

I remember the album coming out, did a great job on the heels of the popularity of War to introduce the band's earlier music. It certainly did so for me. I've seen the RR concert video on VHS once, a great show. It's been a really long time, though (20+ years).

 

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Bria  20545 posts
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Date Posted: 9/19/08 11:51am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Rerelease of Under a Blood Red Sky and Live at Red Rocks )
I'll probably save it for my Christmas list, but I'm definitely wanting the Red Rocks DVD. grin

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/08 3:38am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Rerelease of Under a Blood Red Sky and Live at Red Rocks )
I'm a bit torn about the Red Rocks DVD -- I was supposed to go see them on that tour (would have been my first time) but my friend who was supposed to get the tickets waited too long and the show sold out (NYC). Even seeing the old Sunday Bloody Sunday video brings that painful memory shooting back.

On the other hand, the DVD is probably worth it just to see them close with 40.

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 12/18/08 11:39pm Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (Rerelease of Under a Blood Red Sky and Live at Red Rocks )
Big news:

u2.com posted:


18.12.2008
'No Line on the Horizon'
No Line On The Horizon, the new studio album from U2, will be released on Monday 2nd March 2009.

Written and recorded in various locations, No Line On The Horizon is the group’s 12th studio album and is their first release since the 9 million selling album How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb, released in late 2004.

Sessions for No Line On The Horizon began last year in Fez, Morocco, continued in the band’s own studio in Dublin, before moving to New York’s Platinum Sound Recording Studios, and finally being completed at Olympic Studios in London.

The album calls on the production talents of long-time collaborators Brian Eno and Danny Lanois, with additional production by Steve Lillywhite.



24.11.2008
'Not Like Anything We've Done Before'
'It doesn’t sound like anything we’ve done before and it doesn’t really sound like anything that’s happening at the moment...' Edge has been speaking from the studio to Mojo Magazine about how the album is coming together.

With the release of U2's 12th studio album due and the band still mixing furiously in a London studio - that MOJO are unable to name for fear of an instant fan-siege - Edge called Danny Eccleston at the MOJO office with a progress report.

Mojo report that the album seems certain to be called No Line On The Horizon – although Edge insists that anything can still change, U2 have even been known to record backing vocals in the mastering suite.

He goes on to reveal that they’ve shelved the songs recorded with Rick Rubin in 2006 and that much of the material dates from sessions with Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois. Confirmed track titles include Moment Of Surrender and Unknown Caller while further mysteries resolved include what happened to those Rubin tunes and what that album title really means...

Read it all in the latest MOJO magazine, or go to Mojo.com for a “director’s cut” of the Edge interview.



Also, a new Christmas song, U2's cover of Greg Lake's 'I Believe in Father Christmas'

 

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Zaz  38669 posts
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Date Posted: 12/19/08 11:54am Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (No Line on the Horizon)
March, 2009; not too far off...!

 

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yankee8255  10742 posts
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Date Posted: 12/19/08 12:08pm Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (No Line on the Horizon)
As always, I'm most interested on their tour plans, specifically Europe. I missed them on the Bomb tour (had tickets for Vienna, sold them because it was right around my wife's due date), definitely want to make it to a show this time around.

 

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Zaz  38669 posts
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Date Posted: 12/19/08 12:11pm Subject: RE: "I'm Wide Awake": The U2 Thread (No Line on the Horizon)
I'm curious...how much did you sell the tickets for?

$775.00 tickets for the gold medal hockey game at Vancouver Winter Olympics are going for $4,000 on the net...

 

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