Author Topic: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: the JKR-SVA court decision
yankee8255 
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 12:52am Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
Not really surprising, though I'll admit the thought never occurred to me while I was reading the books, or after.

Question: if he's gay, is McGonegall a lesbian? There was never a mention of her having a spouse, either.

 

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Mar17swgirl 
Registered: Dec '00
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 2:36am Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
yankee8255 posted:
Not really surprising, though I'll admit the thought never occurred to me while I was reading the books, or after.

Question: if he's gay, is McGonegall a lesbian? There was never a mention of her having a spouse, either.


There was never a mention of any Hogwarts teacher having a spouse; are we going to assume all of them were gays/lesbians? raised_brow (Apart from Snape, naturally, who loved Lily all the way till the end) Being long-term single doesn't mean the person must necessarily be homosexual. There are plenty of people who, while straight, didn't find any partner for themselves, and live happily as singles all their life, no problems there (my Mum's two cousins come to mind, who are very charming old ladies).

 

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yankee8255 
Registered: May '05
23980_Luke
Date Posted: 10/22/07 2:45am Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change? - Date Edited: 10/22/07 2:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: yankee8255
Mar17swgirl posted:
yankee8255 posted:
Not really surprising, though I'll admit the thought never occurred to me while I was reading the books, or after.

Question: if he's gay, is McGonegall a lesbian? There was never a mention of her having a spouse, either.


There was never a mention of any Hogwarts teacher having a spouse; are we going to assume all of them were gays/lesbians? raised_brow (Apart from Snape, naturally, who loved Lily all the way till the end) Being long-term single doesn't mean the person must necessarily be homosexual. There are plenty of people who, while straight, didn't find any partner for themselves, and live happily as singles all their life, no problems there (my Mum's two cousins come to mind, who are very charming old ladies).


Clearly more evidence that HP is the work of the devil!!!!!!!!!

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Except that we knew very little about the other teachers. Not that we knew much about McGonegall, but I think if she had had a spouse, we'd have possibly known. For professors like Sprout, we never see them away from the classroom, so it's entirely possible they have spouses. Also, in the case of McGonegall, there did seem to be a friendship between her and DD, which some had thought meant there was a romantic connection (which I believe JKR rebutted). Since we now know that wasn't happening because of DD's preferences, it raises the question about McG.

And let me add, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT!

 

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Mar17swgirl 
Registered: Dec '00
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 10:44am Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
yankee8255 posted:
Except that we knew very little about the other teachers. Not that we knew much about McGonegall, but I think if she had had a spouse, we'd have possibly known. For professors like Sprout, we never see them away from the classroom, so it's entirely possible they have spouses. Also, in the case of McGonegall, there did seem to be a friendship between her and DD, which some had thought meant there was a romantic connection (which I believe JKR rebutted). Since we now know that wasn't happening because of DD's preferences, it raises the question about McG.

And let me add, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT!


I think there can be a perfectly good and deep relationship between a man and a woman that doesn't have a romantic or sexual basis. DD and McG have known each other for decades and obviously are very good friends (and DD's being gay doesn't have anything to do with it). It seems to me very shallow that every deep friendship between a man and a woman (both straight; I'm talking in general now) is nowadays seen as "suspicious" and "surely there must be some romance between them".

 

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waheennay 
Registered: Sep '00
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 12:00pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
Maybe McGonnagall had an unrequited love for Dumbledore that he couldn't return because he didn't swing that way?

 

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Hammurabi 
Registered: Jan '07
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 1:27pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
yankee8255 posted:
Also, in the case of McGonegall, there did seem to be a friendship between her and DD, which some had thought meant there was a romantic connection (which I believe JKR rebutted). Since we now know that wasn't happening because of DD's preferences


Unless McG's transgender.

And let me add, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT!

 

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Zaz 
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Registered: Oct '98
40038_Jawa
Date Posted: 10/22/07 6:09pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
I'm betting Rowling will have wished she'd never said a word very soon. rolling_eyes

 

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yankee8255 
Registered: May '05
23980_Luke
Date Posted: 10/22/07 11:52pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
I don#t think she'll care. She's used to the Christian conservative wack-jobs. She might be more upset that gay groups are expressing their displeasure that she didn#t say anything earlier, which I find ridiculous.

 

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yankee8255 
Registered: May '05
23980_Luke
Date Posted: 10/22/07 11:54pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
Mar17swgirl posted:
yankee8255 posted:
Except that we knew very little about the other teachers. Not that we knew much about McGonegall, but I think if she had had a spouse, we'd have possibly known. For professors like Sprout, we never see them away from the classroom, so it's entirely possible they have spouses. Also, in the case of McGonegall, there did seem to be a friendship between her and DD, which some had thought meant there was a romantic connection (which I believe JKR rebutted). Since we now know that wasn't happening because of DD's preferences, it raises the question about McG.

And let me add, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT!


I think there can be a perfectly good and deep relationship between a man and a woman that doesn't have a romantic or sexual basis. DD and McG have known each other for decades and obviously are very good friends (and DD's being gay doesn't have anything to do with it). It seems to me very shallow that every deep friendship between a man and a woman (both straight; I'm talking in general now) is nowadays seen as "suspicious" and "surely there must be some romance between them".


And I don't disagree with you at all. Several of my best friends are women, and we've always had a platonic relation relationship.

 

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yankee8255 
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23980_Luke
Date Posted: 10/23/07 6:37am Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change?
A follow-up: Was Grindelwald gay? Maybe unrequited love was a factor in their dispute that led to the sister's death.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 10/24/07 12:29pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: Book 7, What Would You Change? - Date Edited: 10/24/07 12:45pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Zaz
Here's Mugglenet's take on the Dumbledore's Orientation Controversy:

In Defence of Dumbledore

 

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SoldYourSoul 
Registered: Sep '07
Date Posted: 10/24/07 6:32pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: The You-Know-What Controversy
I really like that article, and I agree wholeheartedly. It DID get very repetitive, but the argument was solid and the evidence convincing.

I, however, haven't heard any negative comments towards Dumbledore, not even one..

 

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TheBoogieMan 
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered: Nov '01
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Date Posted: 10/24/07 9:03pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: The You-Know-What Controversy
I think you have to be hanging out in the right places to see this supposed backlash. Like, places where 13-year-olds hang out.

 

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Bacon164 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 10/25/07 4:57am Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: The You-Know-What Controversy - Date Edited: 10/25/07 5:06am (2 edits total) Edited By: Bacon164
Most everyone here thought it was awesome/hilarious... and this is Alabama, people. tongue

edit - Nice article! I think if you look in the comments section, you'll find the backlash you're looking for.

 

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George_Roper 
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 10/25/07 7:33am Subject: RE: Harry Potter Chapter by Chapter: The You-Know-What Controversy
I'd love to know what percentage of the fans are against him being gay, what percentage don't care, and what percentage are happy he's gay.

 

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