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Modern Classics of World Literature (currently disc. "The Grapes of Wrath" by John Steinbeck)
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Zaz
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5/20 1:55pm
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RE: Modern Classics of World Literature (currently disc. "Their Eyes . . .") *adopted by KnightWrite
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KnightWriter
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5/20 4:15pm
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Thank you .
No time like the present to start off with something that's both recent and controversial: The Satanic Verses, by Salman Rushdie.
Here's a review from Amazon (via Publisher's Weekly):
Banned in India before publication, this immense novel by Booker Prize-winner Rushdie ( Midnight's Children ) pits Good against Evil in a whimsical and fantastic tale. Two actors from India, "prancing" Gibreel Farishta and "buttony, pursed" Saladin Chamcha, are flying across the English Channel when the first of many implausible events occurs: the jet explodes. As the two men plummet to the earth, "like titbits of tobacco from a broken old cigar," they argue, sing and are transformed. When they are found on an English beach, the only survivors of the blast, Gibreel has sprouted a halo while Saladin has developed hooves, hairy legs and the beginnings of what seem like horns. What follows is a series of allegorical tales that challenges assumptions about both human and divine nature. Rushdie's fanciful language is as concentrated and overwhelming as a paisley pattern. Angels are demonic and demons are angelic as we are propelled through one illuminating episode after another. The narrative is somewhat burdened by self-consciousness that borders on preciosity, but for Rushdie fans this is a splendid feast.
To say the book was (and is) controversial is an understatement. It forced Rushdie into hiding for years, and I don't think he's regularly public even now. Well known and respected columnist Eugene Robinson once almost declined an invitation to a dinner party because he didn't know Rushdie would be there. It was only because a friend of Robinson's quietly tipped him off that maybe he really wanted to go that he ended up meeting the author.
Like Garcia Marquez, Rushdie uses surrealism in his work. I've yet to read it myself, but I'm sure a few here have. It calls into question just how much of an impact fiction can have on reality and the price people can pay for saying certain things in their writing, even if the actual events never happened.
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Zaz
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5/20 10:27pm
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I did try it, and didn't get very far. *Sigh*
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KnightWriter
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What put you off from it in particular?
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Zaz
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I couldn't get into the story. I should try it again. But some books I keep trying because people I respect tell me they are good. Like "The Eyre Affair" and "The Golden Compass". Those two have defeated me three times each.
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Is there anyone who's read the book completely?
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Last call!
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Zaz
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It appears that this is one of those books with lots of publicity and few readers.
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KnightWriter
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New book coming up soon.
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Zaz
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New book by Rushdie?
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Next up is a true classic, The Grapes of Wrath. It's considered by many to be Steinbeck's best, and one of the best of the 20th century by any standard.
When The Grapes of Wrath was published in 1939, America, still recovering from the Great Depression, came face to face with itself in a startling, lyrical way. John Steinbeck gathered the country's recent shames and devastations--the Hoovervilles, the desperate, dirty children, the dissolution of kin, the oppressive labor conditions--in the Joad family. Then he set them down on a westward-running road, local dialect and all, for the world to acknowledge. For this marvel of observation and perception, he won the Pulitzer in 1940.
The prize must have come, at least in part, because alongside the poverty and dispossession, Steinbeck chronicled the Joads' refusal, even inability, to let go of their faltering but unmistakable hold on human dignity. Witnessing their degeneration from Oklahoma farmers to a diminished band of migrant workers is nothing short of crushing. The Joads lose family members to death and cowardice as they go, and are challenged by everything from weather to the authorities to the California locals themselves. As Tom Joad puts it: "They're a-workin' away at our spirits. They're a tryin' to make us cringe an' crawl like a whipped bitch. They tryin' to break us. Why, Jesus Christ, Ma, they comes a time when the on'y way a fella can keep his decency is by takin' a sock at a cop. They're workin' on our decency."
The point, though, is that decency remains intact, if somewhat battle-scarred, and this, as much as the depression and the plight of the "Okies," is a part of American history. When the California of their dreams proves to be less than edenic, Ma tells Tom: "You got to have patience. Why, Tom--us people will go on livin' when all them people is gone. Why, Tom, we're the people that live. They ain't gonna wipe us out. Why, we're the people--we go on." It's almost as if she's talking about the very novel she inhabits, for Steinbeck's characters, more than most literary creations, do go on. They continue, now as much as ever, to illuminate and humanize an era for generations of readers who, thankfully, have no experiential point of reference for understanding the depression. The book's final, haunting image of Rose of Sharon--Rosasharn, as they call her--the eldest Joad daughter, forcing the milk intended for her stillborn baby onto a starving stranger, is a lesson on the grandest scale. "'You got to,'" she says, simply. And so do we all
From Amazon.com.
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Zaz
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Having been forced to read "The Pearl" in school, I developed a bitter resistence to Steinbeck that I've never quite overcome, though I enjoyed his non-fiction book, "Travels With Charley". Most people have seen the movie of this book, which is sentimental in the wrong way, so that the terrible plight of the protagonists is more unmoving than it should be. The book is better, but dialogue is never Steinbeck's strong suit, and he condescends to his subjects more than a little. In other words, a zeitgeist novel. But if you ever need to know the true social cost of the Great Depression, which people endured without a social safety net, this is the place to start.
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I had to read this for a class in school. Very heavy going, but an excellent piece of literature. Not the sort of thing you read for entertainment, though it's still a very worthwhile experience.
I still remember the ending scene vividly despite not having read the book for eight years.
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I think Grapes of Wrath is outstanding. I really liked the alternating structure; a long chapter about the characters, followed by a short chapter about the general situation. It trounces the movie all sort of ways, though the movie is good on its own terms. Utterly bleak.
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Zaz
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The movie is Steinbeck reflected through a sentimental Irishman.
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