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Modern Classics of World Literature (currently disc. "The Grapes of Wrath" by John Steinbeck)
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NYCitygurl
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4/22/07 8:39am
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RE: Modern Classics of World Literature (currently discussing Jane Eyre)
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I heard that about the school.
The Brontes were really amazing, considering that they were women in the 1800s who managed to get published. I'm not sure if I like Jane Eyre or Wuthering Heights better, but sadly, I haven't read Anne's Anges Grey.
I agree about the imitations. Sharon Shinn's Jenna Starborn wasn't a pleasant read. I do like how Jaspar Fforde incorporated it in the first of his books (title is escaping me at the moment).
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emilsson
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4/22/07 8:46am
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In a way, I find Anne to be the most daring of the three Brontës. She managed to get a book about a woman who has been physically abused by her husband published. Wuthering Heights is a good novel too, but for some reason I did not enjoy it as much as Jane Eyre.
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Zaz
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4/22/07 3:39pm
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I've read that when they were children, they invented a fantasy world called "Gondar" complete with its own language. Pity they didn't last long enough to write about that.
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NYCitygurl
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4/28/07 6:34am
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Yeah, they all died really young. Tragic family.
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Zaz
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4/28/07 1:18pm
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RE: Modern Classics of World Literature (currently discussing Jane Eyre)
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Of the six children, Charlotte lived the longest. She was 38 when she died. Patrick Bronte, their father, outlived all his children.
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NYCitygurl
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5/12/07 8:26am
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The second famous Bronte girl was Emily Bronte.
Wuthering Heights
Heathcliff is brought to Wuthering Heights as a young boy. He quickly finds companionship in Catherine, the daughter of the house, and they spend their childhood running wild out on the moors.
It all ends the day that Heathcliff overhears Catherine saying that she could never marry him because he is a poor orphan with nothing to his name. He leaves before she says that she loves him. "I am Heathcliff," she says, proclaiming that they share the same soul. However, after his departure she marries Edgar Linton.
A few years later Heathcliff returns, causing havoc. He marries Isabella, Edgar's sister, and abuses her horribly. He drives a wedge between Catherine and Edgar. Sadly, Catherine dies after having Edgar's baby. Isabella, pregnant, runs away to escape Heathcliff.
For seventeen years, all is peaceful. It ends the day that Cathy goes up to Wuthering Heights where Heathcliff resides with Linton, his reclaimed son, and Hareton, Catherine's nephew. Linton and Cathy become close, and before Edgar's death, Heathcliff forces them into marriage. After her father dies, Cathy is all alone -- except for Hareton, who is falling in love with her.
The story is told by Lockwood, a visitor, as relayed by Nellie Dean, the housekeeper. It is a story of love and revenge and the true human spirit.
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Zaz
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5/12/07 9:31am
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"Wuthering Heights" isn't as smooth a production as "Jane Eyre", but it's far more interesting. Heathcliff is something very class in English Lit: a classless person. I've seen a couple of adaptations, which generally concetrate on his relationship with Catherine rather than his overwhelming weirdness for his time and place. Laurence Olivier overacts, and Timothy Dalton wasn't right, either.
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NYCitygurl
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I saw the versin with Ralph Fiennes. He was a bit scary.
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Zaz
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5/12/07 9:40am
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Wow, he really looks like a gypsy...not. 
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I wasn't all that impressed with Wuthering Heights. I feel it overeggs beyond gothic romance and misses the mark. Heathcliff and Catherine (the first) are characateurs of the truest kind. However, the prose is quite... hmm... attractive, and Hareton and Catherine (the second) are watered-down, far more rounded versions of their predecessors. I wouldn't call it the greatest piece of literature, but it's good.
EDIT: Sorry, i thought this was a book review thread. Now i feel dumb. Oh well, if anyone's read the book, there's my two cents
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NYCitygurl
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It's a discussion thread, so giving your review of the book is perfect 
I agree that Cathy and Hareton aren't as passionate nad powerful characters as Catherine and Heathcliff, but I still like them. Cathy was Wuthering Heights plus the Grange, and she was able to reconcile the two houses. Plus, Hareton is my favorite character. He's so sweet
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Zaz
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5/12/07 7:29pm
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Emily identified with Heathcliff, according to her letters, which I found rather interesting.
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LordSilvertouch
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5/13/07 1:26am
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Mmm, thanks. Oh and i actually agree, Hareton is probably my favourite too. I think it's a good thing that he's watered down.
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NYCitygurl
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I don't think they could have survived two Heathcliffs  Or two Catherines, for that matter.
I always thought it a bit funny that Hareton was a new Heathcliff since a) Heathcliff treated him horribly because of Hindley, and b) he wasn't Catherine's child, he was her nephew. Funny that Heathcliff saw Catherine's eyes in him as well as in Cathy.
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5/16/07 10:30am
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I quite loved the book. And I still argue that the moment when Lockwood reaches out into the night to close the window and his hand is grasped by a cold hand is the single most terrifying moment of English literature. I heard that bit of the story on tape when I was something like ten and had nightmares about it. And I still think about it every time I reach into a dark room to flip on the light.
Every time.
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