Author Topic: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 44. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
King_of_Red_Lions 
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Date Posted: 9/7 11:11am Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 53. Captain Ahab
Ah, Moby-Dick: one of my favorite novels. I never cared for the character of Ahab. He was very elusive in the novel. He stuck to his cabin most of the time; only emerging, foaming at the mouth when a whale was spotted. Luckily, Melville peppered his story with sundry other interesting characters.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 9/7 12:05pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 53. Captain Ahab
And now I present the only two times Peck tried villainy (to my knowledge): "The Boys from Brazil" (in which he is absolutely laughable as Mengele) and "Duel in the Sun", which I haven't seen.

He didn't play the villain in "Cape Fear", did he? Good reason. He'd be miscast. Peck is not right as Ahab; he can't convey obsession.

 

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DarthBoba 
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Date Posted: 9/7 3:18pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 53. Captain Ahab
He certainly conveyed obsession to me.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 9/18 8:54am Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 53. Captain Ahab - Date Edited: 9/18 8:55am (1 edits total) Edited By: Zaz
YMMV. Next:

52. Hansel and Gretel

This choice puzzled me, but it is a universal trope...the nasty stepmother, the abandoned children, and the nasty female villain. I suggest the brilliant Bugs Bunny cartoon ("Hansel?") for those who want their Freudianism laid bare, so to speak.

 

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DarthBoba 
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Date Posted: 9/18 12:14pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 52. Hansel and Gretel
The obscenity-ridden version of this tale Stephen King put in his foreward to the unabridged edition of The Stand is pretty awesome.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 9/18 12:47pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 52. Hansel and Gretel
Never read that one, but here's the Looney Tune:

Bewitched Bunny

 

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DarthBoba 
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Date Posted: 9/18 2:28pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 52. Hansel and Gretel
It's really brilliant, Zaz. Not only is it funny, it actually provides a pretty good explanation of why the unabridged version of The Stand existed at all.

Probably the only line that I can post here is:

"After awhile, Hansel and Gretel ran into a witch who was into cannibalism."

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 9/18 2:35pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 52. Hansel and Gretel
If that's the first line, it's a keeper...

 

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DarthBoba 
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Date Posted: 9/18 2:56pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 52. Hansel and Gretel - Date Edited: 9/18 2:57pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthBoba
The first line would violate the TOS. tongue

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 9/30 9:17pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 52. Hansel and Gretel
51. James Bond

James Bond (Wiki)

 

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JohnWesleyDowney 
Registered: Jan '04
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Date Posted: 9/30 10:26pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 51. James Bond
Zaz posted:
Never read that one, but here's the Looney Tune:

Bewitched Bunny


I haven't seen that in decades! My god, how did Chuck Jones get away with some of that stuff?
Brilliant, gutsy and very very subversive. HANSEL????

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 10/1 7:11am Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 51. James Bond
Isn't that great? And I say, how did Michael Maltese get away with it? He was the writer/artist on all Jones' best, and Jones' cartoons without him are ordinary.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 10/8 1:17pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 51. James Bond
Next: Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock

Captain Kirk
Mr. Spock

Actually, I suspect (and I don't know, because I don't have a copy of the book) and our guys made the list on the strength of being the origins of (shudder) slash fanfiction. That phenomenon is explained here Kirk/Spock

 

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Date Posted: 10/8 8:23pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 50. Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock - Date Edited: 10/8 8:24pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JohnWesleyDowney
Zaz posted:
Next: Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock

Captain Kirk
Mr. Spock

Actually, I suspect (and I don't know, because I don't have a copy of the book) and our guys made the list on the strength of being the origins of (shudder) slash fanfiction. That phenomenon is explained here Kirk/Spock


One line that always amused me is the line in Star Trek V when Kirk is so excited and thrilled to see Spock is alive after the battle, and I think Kirk embraces Spock on the Klingon ship. Spock's reaction, which is of course deadpan but absolutely hilarious,
"please Captain, not in front of the Klingons."

As funny as it is, I don't think it was meant to imply anything unusual about their friendship.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 10/18 4:03pm Subject: RE: The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived: 50. Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock
It's not ever hinted at in canon...

Next: 49. Tarzan

The lost lordling raised by animals has definite appeal, and is derived from Romulus and Remus, and "The Jungle Book"...

 

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