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Taken from the Premiere Magazine, this is a list of the 50 biggest Hollywood disasters (thanks to Zaz for the link!!)
Filmmakers love a good disaster, whether it's melting polar ice caps, a dinner party blowup, or a bank heist gone bad. So it's only fitting that the industry's movers and shakers would also be prone to catastrophes. But be warned: This list is like Nick Nolte's infamous mugshot. It might make you laugh. Or cringe. Or maybe shed a tear. Before you start writing letters about what we missed, though, understand that we steered clear of the Hollywood Babylon tragedies—the James Deans and Marilyn Monroes—which have been done to death (pun intended). So without further ado, here's a shotgun blast of the silly, the sordid, the sad, and the absurd.
~Premiere Magazine
The list consists of whole movies that were simply awful, mistakes that actors made, and scenes and parts of movies.
#50: Club Zion from The Matrix Reloaded
The Club is just a place where people can bump against each other and attempt to dance. They're half-clothed and sweaty, and it really isn't a pretty sight.
Previous topics:
#50: Club Zion from The Matrix Reloaded
#49: Commercials in movie theaters
#48: Werner Herzog's Fitzcarraldo
#47: Nipples on Batman's suit
#46: Quentin Tarantino's acting career.
#45: Foot in mouth disease
#44: Why do bad things happen to good Saturday Night Live comedians?
#43: The incredible brain trust that was Pop.com
#42: And come to think about it, online entertainment in general
#41: Former dry cleaner to the stars
#40: Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's
#39: Bruce Willis in Hudson Hawk
#38: David Manning is a hollow man
#37: Sofia Coppola's turn in The Godfather Part III
#36: Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
#35: Ashton Kutcher
#34: Heidi Fleiss
#33: The Director's Company
#32: Brigitte Bardot
#31: Sean Connery and Harrison Ford as Russian sub captains with befuddling accents
#30: Howard the Duck
#29: Madonna's acting career
#28: The Mutilation of Once Upon a Time in America
#27: Gigli
#26: The Razor's Edge. Jakob the Liar. The Majestic.
#25: The MPAA's silly a screener ban in 2003 was supposedly about pirates
#24: The lame movie career of Thomas Edison
#23: Timothy Dalton as James Bond
#22: Orson Welles's torment at the hands of RKO Studios
#21: Ishtar
#20: Martin Scorsese losing the Best Director Oscar for GoodFellas to Kevin Costner's Dances with Wolves in 1991
#19: Orion Pictures' sudden nosedive from the top of a heap of Oscar gold
#18: Roman Polanski's Lolita episode with a 13-year-old girl
#17: Movie piracy
#16: The horror that was the making of the American classic Apocalypse Now
#15: The Charity Bazaar Fire of 1897
#14: Brandon Lee's untimely death on the set of The Crow
#13: Sony hiring Peter Guber and Jon Peters
#12: Michael Eisner hiring Michael Ovitz
#11: The demise of Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle
#10: Cleopatra
#9: The money pit that was Heaven's Gate
#8: Woody Allen: the past ten years
#7: Jar Jar Binks
#6: VHS proved bigger but not necessarily Beta
#5: Movie star salary inflation
#4: Never giving Alfred Hitchcock or Cary Grant an Oscar
#3: Death on the set of Twilight Zone: The Movie
#2: The Hollywood blacklist
#1: 1. The tyranny of the opening weekend box office
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Zaz
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They certainly could have come up with something a bit more...I don't know, watchable?
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I haven't seen the movie, but I looked at the picture, and it doesn't look pretty 
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I'm actually pretty fond of Matrix Reloaded; the nearest I can get to a rational explanation for this is that quite a lot of it looks great and is cool.
However, the 'club' scene in Zion could justify the invention of the fast-forward button all on its lonesome 
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I dunno- I never really had a problem with the scene, at least not to the curious degree other people seem to have. My only criticism of it is that it goes on a little too long, but it works well as a means of cutting between the Neo/Trinity love scene and the whole "last celebration of humanity" aspect of the sequence.
It's certainly not a top-50 mistake, though, IMO. It'd have to be something really mind-blowingly awful like "the zoom-chase and foot cutting scene in Saw" that takes an ok/decent/good movie and just takes an unbelievably spectacular divebomb into craptown (thankfully the subsequent Tobin Bell scene managed to barely salvage Saw).
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JediNemesis posted:
I'm actually pretty fond of Matrix Reloaded; the nearest I can get to a rational explanation for this is that quite a lot of it looks great and is cool.
However, the 'club' scene in Zion could justify the invention of the fast-forward button all on its lonesome
Agreed.
Once I watched MR with my grandmother. Wow, that part was awkward. 
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i've no problem at all with this sequence, and the movie itself is excellent.
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I know that while I don't regard "Matrix Reloaded" as highly as I do the first film, I have to admit I didn't leave the theater as angry as I did when I saw "Matrix Revolutions". But like others have mentioned, that "Club Zion" sequence could've just been dropped. Bad choice of song, and the sequence didn't really fit in with the movie.
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I think all the Matrix films are overrated. Fishbourne is the only one who can act in them. The rest of the cast just stares blankly into the camera while spewing nonsense.
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That scene was so awkward to watch in the movie theater. All of a sudden in the middle of the movie a giant orgy breaks out on screen. The audience I was with (including myself) began to laugh after a couple of minutes. It was so ridiculous.
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It wasn't an orgy- it's a caveman rave, essentially. Though I think the editing between it and the love scene kinda tricked some veiwers into the orgy impression.
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I didn't mind Zion. In fact, after the first Matrix film I cared far more about the Zion people than any of the main cast.
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Eh, it didn't bother me that much, but it doesn't really help the movie at all.
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It kind of bothered me that Neo seems to dissapear from the storyline in the second and third Matrix's. He's almost an afterthought.
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I actually thought this was a really great scene.
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My problem with Zion was that it was yet another 'borrowed' point from Neuromancer.
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