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The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #1: The tyranny of the opening weekend box office
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dp4m
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Nov '01
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Date Posted:
1/1/07 8:49pm
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RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- 50: The Matrix Reloaded's Club Zion
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Ive_Got_Two_Legs posted:
My problem with Zion was that it was yet another 'borrowed' point from Neuromancer.
Hmmm, good point. But since most of the rest of the film was so liberally "borrowed" from much of the precepts of Neuromancer and cyperpunk-genre in general, is that surprising?
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Rogue1-and-a-half
Title: Manager: Amphitheatre
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Date Posted:
1/2/07 8:40pm
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RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- 50: The Matrix Reloaded's Club Zion
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dp4m posted:
Ive_Got_Two_Legs posted:
My problem with Zion was that it was yet another 'borrowed' point from Neuromancer.
Hmmm, good point. But since most of the rest of the film was so liberally "borrowed" from much of the precepts of Neuromancer and cyperpunk-genre in general, is that surprising?
It's an 'homage.'
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DarthBoba
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Date Posted:
1/2/07 8:58pm
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RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- 50: The Matrix Reloaded's Club Zion
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I refuse to believe that the last celebration of humanity will be to techno music. 
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dp4m
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Date Posted:
1/2/07 9:00pm
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Homage is... French for we can rip it off and not have to pay royalties?
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Zaz
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
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Date Posted:
1/2/07 9:02pm
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RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- 50: The Matrix Reloaded's Club Zion
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Basically. The English translation is generally 'plagarism.'
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DarthBoba
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Date Posted:
1/2/07 9:11pm
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Now, now.
Plagiarism is if George had just ended ANH with the end scenes from Triumph of the Will. Which he basically did, just with a different setting, characters, actors, and a completely different message.
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pigeon-youth
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1/2/07 11:27pm
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I have to say I preferred the Club Hel version, brief as it was.
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TheBoogieMan
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Date Posted:
1/3/07 4:19am
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Eh, it was bad, but it sure ain't top 50.
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Jedi knight Pozzi
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1/3/07 5:10am
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I really can't see a problem with it. At all.
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JediTrilobite
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1/3/07 7:33am
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DarthBoba posted:
I refuse to believe that the last celebration of humanity will be to techno music.
I agree.
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The2ndQuest
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Date Posted:
1/3/07 8:30am
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RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- 50: The Matrix Reloaded's Club Zion
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DarthBoba posted:
I refuse to believe that the last celebration of humanity will be to techno music.
Well, considering that everyone in Zion seemed to have the whole techno-punk thing going during their trips into the Matrix (attending clubs, etc), it makes sense that they'd have some of that genre interest in real life as well.
Or would you have preferred Morpheus break into a rendition medley of "Rock the Casba" and "Wang Chung"? 
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JediTrilobite
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1/3/07 8:45am
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Rogue1-and-a-half
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Date Posted:
1/3/07 11:26am
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*Zion swaying* "Kumbayah, Lord, kumbayah . . ."
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Beowulf
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Date Posted:
1/3/07 11:44am
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Yeah, the Zion club scene wasn't good at all. I might as well been watching MTV's Spring Break. Also, there was no purple-nurpling like in the Club Hel scene. When you see that kind of thing on an IMAX screen, it never leaves you.
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Zaz
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Date Posted:
1/3/07 11:52am
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"Ill at ease in Zion"
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