Author Topic: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #1: The tyranny of the opening weekend box office
Zaz 
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Date Posted: 5/20 10:32am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #13: Sony hiring Peter Guber and Jon Peters
"I was thinking that this man is either the most progressive individual in films today or just a flat-out idiot. It's a real thin line."

It is indeed.

 

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NYCitygurl 
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Date Posted: 5/20 11:17am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #13: Sony hiring Peter Guber and Jon Peters
Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:
Once upon a time, Kevin Smith was hired to work on a Superman script being produced by Jon Peters. Watching Smith tell the story on 'An Evening with Kevin Smith' is priceless, but this article covers the entertaining debacle pretty well.


That sounds like a terrible job - fun to do what he loved, but putting up with those guys must have been bad.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 5/20 1:39pm Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #13: Sony hiring Peter Guber and Jon Peters
The article is funny and horrifying; now we know why most super-hero movies are so dire.

 

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NYCitygurl 
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Date Posted: 5/24 8:40am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #13: Sony hiring Peter Guber and Jon Peters
12. Without an heir apparent,


Michael Eisner committed an error apparent in 1995 when he hired mega-agent Michael Ovitz to run Disney, following the death of the number-two man, Frank Wells, and a public falling-out with then studio chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg. The marriage between the two Mighty Michaels ended in a nasty divorce after only 14 months, with Ovitz walking away with a severance package worth $140 million, and angry shareholders suing the Mouse House.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 5/24 8:44am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #12: Michael Eisner hiring Michael Ovitz
Disney was in dire straits when Eisner took over; he, Welles and Katzenberg restored it, and then, when they began to quarrel among themselves, it went south again.

 

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NYCitygurl 
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Date Posted: 5/27 9:21am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #12: Michael Eisner hiring Michael Ovitz
11. The demise of Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle


came to pass during the Labor Day break in 1921, when young actress Virginia Rappe was discovered passed out in his San Francisco hotel suite during a party. When Rappe died days later, Arbuckle (who was rumored to have been framed as her rapist by scam artists) was pilloried in the press during three manslaughter trials (with two hung juries). He was ultimately acquitted and was just getting to work again when, in 1933, he died of a heart attack at 46.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 5/27 9:43am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #11: The demise of Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle
This was a notorious scandal of the 20's, with some rotten connotations which I won't go into. In any case, Arbuckle, who was very talented, had no career afterwards. Buster Keaton, who was a friend of his, got him directing work, which he did under a sarcastic alias: Will B. Goode.

 

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Date Posted: 5/27 3:16pm Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #11: The demise of Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle
Zaz posted:
I remember reading about this...all they found of the Duchesse d'Alencon was her head.


Is it bad that I'm going to put that last phrase in my sig? laugh

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 5/27 3:22pm Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #11: The demise of Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle
Nah. I expect the slings and arrows by now. mischief

 

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Date Posted: 6/1 9:06pm Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #11: The demise of Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle
10. Cleopatra.


Fox invested $44 million in the two-and-a-half-year shoot of 1963's Cleopatra, which still reigns as the most expensive movie ever made (when adjusted for inflation). Liz Taylor nearly died from double pneumonia, director Rouben Mamoulian dropped out, the production relocated from England to Italy, and the Vatican condemned Richard Burton and Taylor's love affair.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 6/1 10:49pm Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #10: Cleopatra
This was one of the first cases of a runaway budget--but not the last. A lot of it wasn't Fox's fault; Taylor fell very seriously ill during the first attempt at filming. Once she recovered, already terribly in debt, Fox decided to up the star power of the cast, and replaced the original actors with Rex Harrison and Richard Burton, and the director was replaced by Joseph Mankieciwz, who tried to fix the script--as they filmed. That never works and it didn't here, especially as Burton and Taylor began a notorious affair. (This is where the word 'paparizzi' first came into international use.) Fox lost a packet, and the resulting film is pretty awful, though the first half, with Rex Harrison, is not too bad.

 

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Date Posted: 6/2 3:36am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #10: Cleopatra
The script isn't great, but the movie is watchable. A lot of the money is on the screen, so it is at least a good-looking, if mediocre, film.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 6/2 6:58am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #10: Cleopatra
Taylor is terribly miscast and too old; Cleopatra is a teenager at the start.

 

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Date Posted: 6/9 6:26am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #10: Cleopatra
9. The money pit that was Heaven's Gate.


Directed by Michael Cimino, this 1980 western also cost $44 million to make (not quite Cleopatra, but still . . . ) and grossed under $2 million in an epochal flop that triggered the sale of United Artists to Kirk Kerkorian, who merged it with MGM. A career-hurter for everyone involved, and the signal that the auteurs of the '70s, like Scorsese, Friedkin, and Altman, would begin to lose power.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 6/9 8:08am Subject: RE: The 50 Biggest Hollywood Disasters -- #9: The money pit that was Heaven's Gate
This was a terrible disaster, because it took out United Artists, a studio that tried different things, and supported interesting directors.

 

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