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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon
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Dec '00
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Date Posted:
1/18 9:24pm
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RE: Cloverfield (A J.J. Abrams Production)
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So the guy with the camera is really named Hud?
Seriously?
That's funny. I don't know if it's funny-clever or funny-lame, but it's funny.
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timmoishere
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1/18 9:45pm
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Short for Hudson. But it's still funny.
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JediPrettyBoy
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1/18 9:58pm
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Good and kind of surreal. Still not sure what to think. I left the theater; not disappointed, but confused. This was probably the effect they hoped to achieve.
My only gripe is this...
NO INDY 4 TRAILER.
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timmoishere
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1/18 10:03pm
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The Indy 4 trailer will air during the Super Bowl.
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Jango10
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1/19 6:04am
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The Indy 4 trailer will air online on Feb 14.
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Jedi-Anakin-Solo
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1/19 5:06pm
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So I loved this movie. I mean it's like one of my new all time favorites. I plan on going back to see this at least 3 or 4 more times because I couldn't take it all in the first time.
What makes this movie perfect as far as I'm concerned, as opposed to just a good popcorn flick was the PoV.
I loved Speilberg's War of the Worlds because it was from the civilian PoV, not the military. Cloverfield took "Point of view" to a new meaning.
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Palpateen
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Date Posted:
1/19 6:23pm
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Every impressionable film school student in the world will now shoot their class projects with a shakey, unsteady camera to keep it "real" to the point where it will become an absurdly overdone cliche' and make everyone throw up. 
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wild_karrde
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1/19 6:45pm
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Palpateen posted:
Every impressionable film school student in the world will now shoot their class projects with a shakey, unsteady camera to keep it "real" to the point where it will become an absurdly overdone cliche' and make everyone throw up.
They already did back when Blair Witch came out.
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The2ndQuest
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1/19 7:31pm
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Great movie! Very intense- the humor was very natural, and it just really achieved putitng you in the moment (that dash into the subway during the military attack as the monster pops down at them was an utterly fantastic sequence), and yet avoids the confusion that Blair Witch caused half the time. They also managed to sting together some great pieces rather naturally- the subway tunnel, the leaning building, etc.
I love that the camera guy's name is HUD- his lines were pretty funny too- the aforementioned "also terrible" bit killed.
The ending IS a little abrupt, but if you think about the opening title cards, it pretty much tells you there's only 2 or 3 ways the movie is gonna end, and all of them would be abrupt.
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HanSolo29
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1/19 7:59pm
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Armenian_Jedi posted:
"they didn't answer every question I had.  I was sick of the jerky camera but still wanted the movie to be longer! that makes perfect sense! I wanted the whole movie to be nothing but a shot of the monster! it wasn't even close to that!!! I hated it!!!"
Way to put words in my mouth.
What I meant when I said 'my questions' weren't answered is the ending was too abrupt and the movie as a whole didn't explain anything. Basically, if you saw the previews, you saw the movie, IMO. Nothing new is really introduced to explain things further. We have the monster running amok in NYC - that's great! But where did it come from and what was the overall outcome? We know someone found the tape but nothing is explained beyond that. What happened to NYC? Was the monster stopped? The ending just left a bad taste in my mouth.
Beyond the jerky camera, the plot itself wasn't that bad, but it still would've been nice to have a satisfying conclusion. That's what I meant when I said it wasn't long enough.
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wild_karrde
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1/19 9:05pm
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HanSolo29 posted:
What I meant when I said 'my questions' weren't answered is the ending was too abrupt and the movie as a whole didn't explain anything. Basically, if you saw the previews, you saw the movie, IMO. Nothing new is really introduced to explain things further. We have the monster running amok in NYC - that's great! But where did it come from and what was the overall outcome? We know someone found the tape but nothing is explained beyond that. What happened to NYC? Was the monster stopped? The ending just left a bad taste in my mouth.
Beyond the jerky camera, the plot itself wasn't that bad, but it still would've been nice to have a satisfying conclusion. That's what I meant when I said it wasn't long enough.
But it wasn't that kind of movie. This wasn't Independence Day, it was Signs. Where it came from, what it wants, what it is ... these things don't matter to Joe Blow just trying to stay alive. All they care about is saving Beth and getting the hell outta Dodge. All that matters to them is surviving. And that's what this movie is about - surviving in this incredibly insane situation. Where the monster comes from and what it wants isn't going to help them survive, so they don't care.
But as I said above, the end of the movie shows the monster splashing down off Coney Island. And at the end of the credits you can hear someone say "It's still alive."
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Jabbadabbado
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1/19 9:08pm
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It was ok. Just ok. There's the scene in Spielberg's War of the Worlds when a guy holding a camcorder gets zapped as he films a tripod. We linger for a moment on the dead guy's camcorder screen as it continues to record. J.J. Abrams saw this and thought to himself "what if I remake War of the Worlds from the point of view of that guy who gets zapped?"
And the movie feels exactly like that. A 2 second gimmick that's scaled up to a really short movie with an air of desperation about getting it even to that 75 minutes or whatever it is.
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JediPrettyBoy
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1/19 9:08pm
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Explanations about the creature, where it came from, why it exist, etc, are what sequels are for.
Other people have cameras too. We could get another POV from someone else's camera; maybe even the military's or just another civilian. This movie was only 74 minutes long because that is all that was on that camera that the government found.
Next time, they can make the movie any length they want.
They could even make a government collection next time where the goverment has spliced some shorter films together.
For example, the first 25 minutes is one person's footage, the next 40 minutes is another person's footage, the next 30 minutes is yet another person's footage, and the last 15 minutes is yet ANOTHER person's footage.
Perhaps in a scenario like that, they could answer, at least, some of our questions. In all honesty, they could make as many POV / real-time films about this subject as there are Godzilla movies.
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1/19 9:36pm
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wild_karrde posted:
But as I said above, the end of the movie shows the monster splashing down off Coney Island. And at the end of the credits you can hear someone say "It's still alive."
Ah, I missed that. I wasn't looking at the right spot to see the splashdown and we didn't stay through the credits. That explains a few things. And after seeing your explanation, I guess I was coming into it with the wrong state of mind and hence, my disappointment. Like I said, the plot itself wasn't that bad, so maybe I'll give it another go once it comes out on DVD.
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Palpateen
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Jabbadabbado posted:
It was ok. Just ok. There's the scene in Spielberg's War of the Worlds when a guy holding a camcorder gets zapped as he films a tripod. We linger for a moment on the dead guy's camcorder screen as it continues to record. J.J. Abrams saw this and thought to himself "what if I remake War of the Worlds from the point of view of that guy who gets zapped?"
And the movie feels exactly like that. A 2 second gimmick that's scaled up to a really short movie with an air of desperation about getting it even to that 75 minutes or whatever it is.
QFT.
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