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dizfactor
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10/30/07 1:35pm
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Zaz posted:
You. Are. Kidding. Me.
Oh, I wish. Atrocities abound in the list, honestly. Paul Thomas Anderson rates just above Clint Eastwood and David Lynch. Spike Lee over Godard and Eisenstein. I'm trying to block out Cameron frakking Crowe above Gus Van Sant, let alone Wong-Kar-Wai, let alone, oh, say, DW Griffith.
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Zaz
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At least Griffith made the list.  I'm betting most of the voters haven't seen one of his movies.
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darth_frared
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it seems they went with a certain generation of readers. but then you cannot objectively compare these works and say one is greater than the other.
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"Lucas and Spielberg changed the movie industry forever. People forget Spielberg has his share of stinkers too (Always, anyone?)."
Not to mention 1941...
Everyone always talks about how Lucas has changed the industry, but they always forget to mention Cameron.
And I don't think Spielberg (although one of my personal favorite film makers) revolutionized or changed the industry. He simply sets the bar higher.
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dizfactor
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10/30/07 3:47pm
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Darth_Maul_Sith_Lord posted:
Everyone always talks about how Lucas has changed the industry, but they always forget to mention Cameron.
Cameron is the result of the changes that Lucas and Spielberg made.
Darth_Maul_Sith_Lord posted:
And I don't think Spielberg (although one of my personal favorite film makers) revolutionized or changed the industry. He simply sets the bar higher.
Spielberg and Lucas invented the summer blockbuster. Before Jaws, Star Wars, and to a lesser extent American Graffiti, there was no such thing as the big summer movie season. It did not exist. Movies were slowly retreating to the art house, and big money was not to be found. The huge mass appeal of those movies completely transformed Hollywood. Without them, if film still existed as an art form, the local multiplex in your town would not exist, nor would any of the movies that play there.
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon
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10/31/07 12:03am
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Zaz posted:
At least Griffith made the list. I'm betting most of the voters haven't seen one of his movies.
Charming, heartwarming tales that they are.
Birth of a Nation is important the way Triumph of the Will is important. Their contibutions to technique are important to remember and understand, but it's hard to actually enjoy watching them, for obvious reasons.
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Spiderfan
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dizfactor posted:
95) George Lucas: American Graffiti and THX 1138 are great. Star Wars - it's hard to see it objectively, but you can't deny its impact. Everything else he's directed since has run the gamut from putrid to mediocre. Still, those are three great movies.
Well beyond the three you mention there isn't exactly much of a gamut to run. Especially since the only other films he has directed since Star Wars was more Star Wars.
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George Lucas is pretty much the father of modern day indie filmmaking, is he not?
And considering his impact on the film industry as a whole and the absolute desire to IMPROVE movies for everyone -- from preproduction to postproduction to viewing in the theaters -- this apparently counts for nothing.
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dp4m posted:
George Lucas is pretty much the father of modern day indie filmmaking, is he not?
And considering his impact on the film industry as a whole and the absolute desire to IMPROVE movies for everyone -- from preproduction to postproduction to viewing in the theaters -- this apparently counts for nothing.
Well the indie market has roots further back than Lucas, though he was involved and influential.
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Zaz
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10/31/07 7:40am
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"Birth of a Nation is important the way Triumph of the Will is important. Their contibutions to technique are important to remember and understand, but it's hard to actually enjoy watching them, for obvious reasons."
Griffith made a lot of movies, and a whole lot more than "Birth of a Nation"
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"Griffith made a lot of movies, and a whole lot more than "Birth of a Nation""
Including the earth-shattering masterpiece INTOLERANCE (which features one of the most beautiful camera movements in all of cinema) and the equally wonderful BROKEN BLOSSOMS. Griffith was a total master.
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Zaz posted:
"Birth of a Nation is important the way Triumph of the Will is important. Their contibutions to technique are important to remember and understand, but it's hard to actually enjoy watching them, for obvious reasons."
Griffith made a lot of movies, and a whole lot more than "Birth of a Nation"
I wish people would stop talking about Birth of a Nation. It isn't that it's a racist film; it's that it's so dull.
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I'm interested it in... 
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Rogue1-and-a-half posted:
Zaz posted:
"Birth of a Nation is important the way Triumph of the Will is important. Their contibutions to technique are important to remember and understand, but it's hard to actually enjoy watching them, for obvious reasons."
Griffith made a lot of movies, and a whole lot more than "Birth of a Nation"
I wish people would stop talking about Birth of a Nation. It isn't that it's a racist film; it's that it's so dull.
It may be dull but its significant for its accomplishments. It was the first time that we saw a movie of this magnitude with many different storylines continuing simultaneously, an epic cast and the first feature length motion picture. Not to mention the laundry list of techniques it reinvented and improved...It really was the beginning of the modern feature.
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Drac39
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I would rank Lucas in the 80's myself. He's by no means one of the elite but his imagination deserves a lot of praise.
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