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Tyi-Maet_Nefer
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Jun '05
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Date Posted:
10/9/07 8:25am
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RE: 3:10 to Yuma
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Ogmios22188 posted:
Tyi-Maet_Nefer posted:
Reynar_Tedros posted:
Who's your #1 actor, Tyi? Jackman? Pierce? Bana?
*tries to think of more Australian actors* 
Just saw this. No, #1 is Liam Neeson. 
Isn't he Irish?
Yes.
*I* said nothing about another Australian actor.
I still don't know if this film is coming out here or not. Which saddens me. 
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Zaz
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
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Date Posted:
10/9/07 8:40am
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It will be released eventually, won't it? What's the usual schedule?
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Tyi-Maet_Nefer
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10/9/07 9:17am
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Well, "usually" it just comes out sometime after it does in the US. For blockbusters, it's usually sooner rather than later - and for some rare world premières, we get it beforehand since our date occurs first (ROTS and such).
However, the thing is, for 3:10 to Yuma, I've checked all the local cinema release dates for upcoming movies (and by local I mean in the entire city of Sydney) and it's not there at all. Even imdb, which usually has some rough idea of when it comes out globally, doesn't have Australia.
So... I honestly don't know. I would really love to see it in the cinema, rather than having to wait for some DVD release next year.
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darth_frared
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Date Posted:
10/13/07 7:51am
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i agree with most of you it's a very well-done movie but somehow it seemed lacking a dimension in the ending. the plot is silly but kinda gives the bale character a flirt with the dark side, or something like that, and we get to question what makes the crowe character so badass (he is awesomely bored by the predictability of people?) but why does all of the nice ambiguity get ruined by a lesson of, it's not okay to shoot people unless they are the bad guys?
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Yodas-evil-twin
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Date Posted:
10/13/07 8:18am
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darth_frared posted:
i agree with most of you it's a very well-done movie but somehow it seemed lacking a dimension in the ending. the plot is silly but kinda gives the bale character a flirt with the dark side, or something like that, and we get to question what makes the crowe character so badass (he is awesomely bored by the predictability of people?) but why does all of the nice ambiguity get ruined by a lesson of, it's not okay to shoot people unless they are the bad guys?
Could you please elaborate?
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darth_frared
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10/14/07 3:30am
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i'll try 
wade is by and large an arsehole but the things he argues, the questions he asks, display a sense of justice and when he denies his goodwill, i for one didn't believe him. maybe because my sense of justice was compromised already, i don't know, but we saw how he paradoxically helped the bale character to deliver him into the hands of the law which we know is flawed and we find out he has escaped numerous times. the bale character does this enormously futile deed basically to prove his manliness, so he's stubborn but smart about his stubborness and humble as well as proud. crowe was very seductive but self-conscious about it, so he repeatedly destroyed the ideas of romance that went with the outlaw. he believed he could buy all these people but he also for the first time in ages probably had found someone who was as determined as him and he honoured that commitment. so, he recognized dignity and honour and integrity and all the rest of that but when it came to anyone else, they just had to die or whatever.
all in all it seemed to be an exercise in ambiguity, about living in the west and having to stand up for yourself kind of thing. and then it was about manliness.
and all of these notions seemed to collapse when wade simply shot his gang and delivered himself. he kinda lost the spark for me. i didn't necessarily want to have him escape and ride off with the gang, but i didn't want an ending that would say, you preserve your dignity by not shooting a bad guy when secretly you had just congratulated the bad guy on executing his gang. it seemed wishy-washy morally.
i'm not sure i'm explaning very well, but the ending seemed inconsistent with a film that had done everything to avoid stereotyping that far.
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Zaz
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
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Date Posted:
10/14/07 10:12am
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I took it as an attempt at redemption...skewed, undoubtedly.
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Hammurabi
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Date Posted:
10/14/07 10:22am
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Or Wade just didn't value his gang and was irate because they killed Bale. His action struck me as fairly spontaneous, and I don't think he would have done it if he cared much about those guys to begin with.
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darth_frared
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10/14/07 2:44pm
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no, i'm okay with the characters and their actions... i'll try again.
had the bale character (whatever is his name) delivered wade and walked away, there would be resolution missing. something needed to happen because both men had bonded and were about to split up again due to social conventions (yes, i see a bit of a gay subtext there) so we got that resolved and wade is being angry with his gang. that seemed alright because they had just executed his new best friend and maybe for the first time in his life he actually gave a toss about someone who was not him. but i think the film betrayed that a little bit by also making it his coming out as a moral person. suddenly that cold act of rage, and an execution it was, becomes an act of justice because these guys were bad. and i just find that portrayal annoying because it's saying wade was the one who had philosophy and culture and could be redeemed and the others were cannon fodder in the end when all the while we are also made to believe that the death sentence that's been issued for wade is somehow justified because he's bad...
so, by executing men who had trusted him he had made himself part of society again. and on top of that there is the boy who can now believe in wade's basic goodness again because some men got killed.
somehow it's off.
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Zaz
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Date Posted:
10/14/07 4:45pm
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Very interesting interpetation...never thought of it that way.
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darth_frared
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Date Posted:
10/15/07 7:56am
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maybe it's to do with being a woman but when i see a bunch of guys waving pistols around, i wonder what they are compensating for
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Zaz
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10/15/07 12:21pm
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Tyi-Maet_Nefer
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12/14/07 5:21am
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Oh, excellent! I saw the trailer for this in the cinema ahead of Hitman. Finally. It didn't have a release date, but at least that means it will hit the big screen here ... finally. Finally.
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Yodas-evil-twin
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12/14/07 5:28am
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Tyi-Maet_Nefer posted:
Oh, excellent! I saw the trailer for this in the cinema ahead of Hitman. Finally. It didn't have a release date, but at least that means it will hit the big screen here ... finally. Finally.
It still hasn't come out in Australia yet? The DVD is hitting stores over here on January 8th.
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Tyi-Maet_Nefer
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Exactly!
And to think, Russell bloody Crowe is in it!
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