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Princess_Tina
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2/24 3:11pm
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 31. Sarah Jessica Parker
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I've loved SJP since I watched her in L.A. Story almost 17 years ago. I really hope she does a good job in the S&TC movie.
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Zaz
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2/24 8:50pm
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 31. Sarah Jessica Parker
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If you've never seen the show--and I haven't--this choice seems odd...
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JediANGELA
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 31. Sarah Jessica Parker
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30. ALAN ALDA
As M*A*S*H's ''Hawkeye'' Pierce, Alda created a new kind of TV antihero: a martini-swilling, skirt-chasing jokester of an Army surgeon, who couldn't be counted on to salute but provided a reliable moral center in an increasingly senseless war. Take ''Tuttle,'' an early point of heartfelt absurdity: Hawkeye and Co. invent an imaginary GI — then quickly kill him off. Alda offers a deadpan eulogy: ''There's a little Tuttle left in all of us.''
M*A*S*H was before my time, but I did hear it was one great show. Should he be higher?
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Zaz
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3/2 12:15pm
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 30. Alan Alda
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Alda became a liberal icon; it's odd, then, that he's more memorable in light-heavy or heavy-heavy roles. He was especially good in the faux political debate with Jimmy Smits as the liberal and him as the conservative--I never watched the show involved--"The West Wing"?. I would have voted for him...that's how persuasive.
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LilyHobbitJedi
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 30. Alan Alda
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I remember taking a cruise by the Virgin Islands and the tour guides were saying how Alan Alda bought a small island from the British and made it into a bird sanctuary. It was definitely a beautiful little island, but I can't remember what it was called.
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Zaz
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 30. Alan Alda
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I don't mind him in "MASH"; but he's not outstanding, or anything.
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JohnWesleyDowney
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 30. Alan Alda
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I think Alda's best role in recent years was in THE AVIATOR where he played a weasel senator. He was great in that. Scorcese used him to excellent effect.
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Zaz
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 30. Alan Alda
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Light-heavy.
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Radical-Edward
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3/7 2:34am
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 30. Alan Alda
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Finally a name on the list that I can agree with!
Alda was the heart of MASH, and MASH will always be a heroic and masterful television series, one for the ages. Even though the show ended decades ago, it can still be seen every day on more than one channel. Somewhere in the world, no matter what time of day, MASH is playing on television.
Its season finale is still ranked as drawing more viewers than any other single broadcast program in history.
A bit of trivia: The MASH television show lasted longer than the war it was depicting.
I can't imagine that comedy, or television at all, would be the same without Alda's deadpan delivery of his always-witty one-liners, dark humor that managed to be both dark and humerous, uplifting and real at the same time. Hawkeye Pierce is a hero to a generation, an inspiration to another. He's a liberal icon and a symbol of anti-war logic in a time of great social divisiveness, while still being a fair companion to conservatives and a hard-as-nails American Hero (Alda's also a Republic, by the way)
Alda's more recent work, notably his investigative non-fiction programming for public television, is informative, enjoyable, high-quality, and refreshingly non-partisan (how often can you honestly say that nowadays?) His (slightly more partisan) appearances in fiction show that he's still got the chops to do serious fiction, but Alda's defining role on MASH will continue to influence television for years to come.
My only concern is that he's not higher on the list, considering so much of the junk that's trailing him by a hair.
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JediANGELA
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29. JOHN RITTER
What a full-blown, gifted comic actor Ritter was when he debuted in 1977 on the mediocre sitcom that brought him fame, Three's Company. He played Jack Tripper, a horndog pretending to be gay in order to share an apartment with two hot girls (Suzanne Somers and Joyce DeWitt). The premise was goofy, but in the pilot, Ritter established himself as a witty pro, with great leering double takes, a fine drunk act, and pratfalls performed as adroitly as a silent-movie clown.
Someone who should be much higher on the list.
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darthdrago
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3/8 10:39pm
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John Ritter was definitely a genius at slapstick.
One of his best moments on Three's Company.
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Radical-Edward
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 29. John Ritter
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Never cared for him or his shows. I don't know if my dislike for one is responsible for the other, but regardless I've found no redeeming value in any of them, comedic skill included.
I do admit that he had and still has a tremendous following and no doubt was influential in a variety of more recent television. I am still surprised by the tremendous outpouring of grief and support from his untimely departure.
Personal feeling make me want him to be farther away from the top of the list, and I certainly wouldn't put him in front of Alan Alda, but he deserves a place on the final countdown nonetheless.
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RE: The 50 Greatest TV Icons of all time: 29. John Ritter
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Ritter and Alda are similar light-weight comedians, and I frankly didn't much like Ritter. The quality of his show(s) were a lot worse than Alda's in which case, Alda should rank first, but early death does confer distinction in a lot of dolts' eyes, I suppose.
Both of them are rathe smug and smirky, but Ritter's smirk is a bit more down-market.
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28. HOWARD COSELL
He was loud, opinionated, and unafraid to ''tell it like it is.'' And for nearly two decades, Cosell seemed to be everywhere: covering legendary boxing matches (where he developed an unlikely friendship with Muhammad Ali), broadcasting the original Monday Night Football, and reporting on the hostage drama at the 1972 Munich Olympics. Many mocked his nasal delivery and famous verbosity (''Is football a game or a religion?'' he once mused), but few would dispute that he was the most influential sports journalist in TV history.
Will I be banned if I say that I've never heard of him until now? 
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JediANGELA posted:
Will I be banned if I say that I've never heard of him until now?
Howard Cosell was kind of like a Bill O'Reilly or Rosie O'Donnell of the sports world in the `70s and `80s: he was hired to be a commentator, but his personality & ego became so large that they started to overshadow the very thing he was supposed to be covering, and it grew to the point where you loved him or hated him. His larger than life personality would be run-of-the-mill today, but it was unique in those days. He was one of the first (maybe the first) sports media personalities to become a celebrity in his own right.
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