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Sci-Fi's top 25 movies and TV of the past 25 years: 1. "The Matrix" (1999)
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RE: Sci-Fi's top 25 movies and TV of the past 25 years: 15. FIREFLY/SERENITY (2002/2005)
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I'm cool with Firefly where it's at. I love my DVD sets and I truly think it's a great show/movie, but it's short run definitely holds it back. Fox sucks.
I'm curious to see where Babylon 5 ends up. It's my personal favorite, and I think it should be a top-5 pick, but you never know.
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RE: Sci-Fi's top 25 movies and TV of the past 25 years: 15. FIREFLY/SERENITY (2002/2005)
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Armenian_Jedi posted:
Seeing as how the layers upon layers of devolving humanity was already established in the first half of the movie... what more did that add to the movie, besides being the background to the basic cinematic chase scene?
The movie had to show that this wasn't just your standard "messiah" fare where the coming of the child would really change everything. They made you think that would be the case, and then they showed you that no, that won't be the case at all. That at the end of the day humanity is twisted and warped and will always be that way and the reintroduction of children will not change that. The first half put forth the message that missing children were the key to humanity's downfall, the middle portion put forth the message that this child would change the world, while the last portion cemented the fact that the absence of children wasn't the problem at all and that the child wouldn't make a difference, that humanity would always be humanity and act the way they do until the end of time.
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PerfectCell posted:
Armenian_Jedi posted:
Seeing as how the layers upon layers of devolving humanity was already established in the first half of the movie... what more did that add to the movie, besides being the background to the basic cinematic chase scene?
The movie had to show that this wasn't just your standard "messiah" fare where the coming of the child would really change everything. They made you think that would be the case, and then they showed you that no, that won't be the case at all. That at the end of the day humanity is twisted and warped and will always be that way and the reintroduction of children will not change that. The first half put forth the message that missing children were the key to humanity's downfall, the middle portion put forth the message that this child would change the world, while the last portion cemented the fact that the absence of children wasn't the problem at all and that the child wouldn't make a difference, that humanity would always be humanity and act the way they do until the end of time.
But it was an amazing scene when the baby is crying and when Clive Owen carries her out all the fighting stops and they all stare in disbelief.
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Oh yes, definitely, but then that scene becomes even more powerful when a moment later they start shooting at each other again. Showing that no matter the circumstances humanity will always fight and kill each other, and the loss or reintroduction of children will not change that.
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RE: Sci-Fi's top 25 movies and TV of the past 25 years: 15. FIREFLY/SERENITY (2002/2005)
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13. THE TERMINATOR/ TERMINATOR 2 (1984 /1991)
Directed by James Cameron
Oh, if only all sci-fi action movies could be as kick-ass as the first two Terminators. There's something so hardcore about the original, the merciless chase picture that expertly cast Arnold Schwarzenegger as the scariest killing machine ever seen. Terminator 2, meanwhile, is warmer and more accessible — if just as bloody. At first it seemed wrong that Arnold was now playing the hero, until you settled in and realized that this time Cameron was out to deliver a richer and more layered experience, while still blowing you to the back of the theater with awesome action set pieces.
POP CULTURE LEGACY By spending a then-record $90 million-plus to make T2, Cameron and his liquid-metal T-1000 revolutionized the use of CG technology.
THE BEST BIT So many killer sequences to choose from! For the way it presages the coming effects revolution, we're tempted to highlight the scene in the original when the Terminator tends to his wounds in front of the bathroom mirror. The true winner, though, is the first big chase in T2, featuring a semi tractor-trailer careening off an overpass into a river basin below. You can't beat that. —Gregory Kirschling
I totally agree with the first sentence.
12. BACK TO THE FUTURE (1985)
Directed by Robert Zemeckis
The space-time continuum is a delicate concept, especially when Marty McFly (Michael J. Fox) travels back to 1955 and saves his Peeping Tom father (Crispin Glover) from getting hit by a car. As a result, Marty's randy mother-to-be (Lea Thompson) develops the hots for him, threatening his entire future existence. Twenty-two years later, this timeless sci-fi comedy offers twice the nostalgia: 1985 is nearly as foreign as 1955. (DeLoreans? Jokes about Tab?) Sci-fi has never been as user-friendly as it is here, but not once does the clever script betray the rigid cause/effect tenets of time-travel fiction. (Yes, by ''inventing'' rock & roll, Marty ensures that his parents fall in love.)
POP CULTURE LEGACY With Future, Fox became more than just Family Ties' cute Republican — he was a legitimate movie star. Plus, the movie enshrined the phrases ''flux capacitor'' and ''1.21 jigawatts'' in the zeitgeist.
THE BEST BIT Glover steals every scene as the bullied dweeb, and sci-fi fans everywhere can relate to his sincere horror at the prospect of having ''Darth Vader'' (of the planet Vulcan) melt his brain. —Jeff Labrecque
Do I need to say anything about this one other than it should be higher?
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RE: Sci-Fi's top 25 movies and TV of the past 25 years: Terminator/Back to the Future
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T1 is just nice and gritty and scary (that scene of the stop motion endoskeleton limping towards the door their trying to shut? untoppable, even with the most modern of effects).
T2 is a damn masterpiece only existing in the shadows of Cameron's other two masterpieces (Aliens and The Abyss: SE) and probably the most influential movie to myself.
BTTF- not much you can say about it, it's great fun. WHAT THE HELL IS A JIGGAWATT?! 
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The2ndQuest posted:
BTTF- not much you can say about it, it's great fun. WHAT THE HELL IS A JIGGAWATT?!
A measurement of electricity? 
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11. LOST (2004-Present)
Created by J.J. Abrams and Damon Lindelof
A mysterious island that's home to a shape-shifting smoke monster, a weird science project tasked with saving the world, and a secret society of sinister ''Others'' who can't make babies — yes, Lost certainly has its fair share of sci-fi stuff. And yet, like the best examples of the genre, this unfolding saga about plane-crash survivors trapped in a tropical twilight zone doesn't wallow in its genre elements, but uses them to embellish an exploration of identity, community, and reality itself. Coyly sublimating everything from Jules Verne and H.G. Wells to Star Trek and Star Wars, Lost aspires to be an important entertainment for a pop-soaked, soul-searching age. Now, at the risk of missing the point, how about some damn answers?!
POP CULTURE LEGACY Building on pioneers The X-Files and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Lost helped to usher in a new era of serialized storytelling and showed Hollywood how cult-pop TV can be leveraged into cashcow franchises. Heroes, say hello to Daddy.
THE BEST BIT The Emmy-winning first season, with its perfect pilot and getting- to-know-you character flashbacks, is an object lesson in capturing the imagination. —Jeff Jensen
Never seen an episode of this.
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The greatest tv show of all time. 'Nuff said.
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Okay, I haven't seen enough of this show to know: is it actually sci-fi?
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Yeah, it's like a mix of sci-fi, fantasy, and classic human drama.
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Zaz posted:
Okay, I haven't seen enough of this show to know: is it actually sci-fi?
in season 2, there's a button you have to push every 108 minutes or the world will end.
Doesn't sound like Grey's Anatomy to me.
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Lost is decent, it's not bad, but I wouldn't say it's great either. It's more hit or miss than anything else really.
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PerfectCell posted:
Lost is decent, it's not bad, but I wouldn't say it's great either. It's more hit or miss than anything else really.
Oh.
You're wrong.
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Lost is the most wonderful show I've ever seen. I've been watching faithfully since episode 1 and I fully intend to see it's conclusion. And it's on tonight! 
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