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jangoisadrunk 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/31 5:56pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
I see how it works: since I didn't put a lighthearted smiley after my post then clearly I was breaking the TOS. Otherwise, I would have to take this as baiting:

Zaz posted:
Somehow, I'm guessing you really like Anakin's "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" in ROTS. grin


But I see now that because there is an innocent grinning head after it, that it was some kind of unassailable statement of fact about my personality and not an attempt to anger or otherwise upset me. happy

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 1/31 5:59pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith" - Date Edited: 1/31 6:00pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Zaz
Third warning: cut it out.

This is the last one.

 

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ForceJumpAnakin 
Registered: Dec '06
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Date Posted: 1/31 6:49pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
Strilo posted:
... Nothing in the PT comes close to the worst dialogue ever.
thank you for a little sanity

 

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Process 
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Date Posted: 1/31 6:56pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
Zaz posted:
We all know bad dialogue, right? A lot of movies do it deliberately. For bad dialogue to be genuine bad dialogue, it has got to be meant to be taken seriously, I think.

15 Nominees for Worst Movie Dialogue Ever

THE MOVIE: "Notting Hill" (1999)

THE SCENE: Famous Hollywood actress Anna Scott (Julia Roberts) is attempting to convince bookish William (Hugh Grant) to give her another chance.

THE LINE: ''I'm just a girl, standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her.''



Yes, I remember this, and it just sits there, though Roberts tries damn hard to make it sound like someone would actually say it.

Not her fault.



Just telling everyone that this movie is on CityTV sometime this week.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 1/31 7:09pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith" - Date Edited: 1/31 7:11pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Zaz
"Notting Hill" isn't a bad movie at all. That dialogue is a low point, that's all.

Darth Darth Helmet had a really ingenuous explanation for the dialogue--the best I've ever heard, but TheSecondQuest's post encapsulates why it doesn't work. Hyper-realism in a fantasy movie jerks us out of the fantasy and into cringe-ville. Besides which, I doubt hyper-realism was the intention.

ROTS is extraordinarily sophisticated movie visually, as are nearly all of Lucas' movies; he has an outstanding eye and visual imagination. That eye is allied to a cauliflower ear. IMO.

The point isn't that there are a lot of worse movies in a dialogue-sense. It's that in these particular very famous, generally very financially successful, and often very good movies, there are patches of bad dialogue.

 

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darthdrago 
Registered: Dec '03
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Date Posted: 1/31 8:18pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith" - Date Edited: 1/31 8:21pm (2 edits total) Edited By: darthdrago
Strilo posted:
You want bad dialogue? Worst ever? Watch independent films. Some of them have what is REALLY the worst dialogue ever. I saw two prime examples of this last week. Nothing in the PT comes close to the worst dialogue ever.

We disagreed in the Metallica thread, but I have to back Strilo up on this completely. Two years friend of friend sent me a link to an indie movie in which she had a supporting role; some kind of sci-fi movie called The Next Race: The Remote Viewings. I watched a 3 or 4 minute online trailer. The dialogue--not to mention the acting--was beyond terrible. I mean, I never saw the film, but the clips were so over-the-top awful that I thought they must have been deliberately trying to make a film that would be lampooned on MST3K. I was literally speechless after I saw the trailer.


EDIT: I tried looking for the script online, but alas, no luck. You can always try YouTube...

 

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Date Posted: 1/31 9:27pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith" - Date Edited: 1/31 9:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
Darth Dark Helmet posted:
Exactly, and every line he says, sounds like the type of thing that sounds awesome in your head, when you're daydreaming about a girl you really like. The lines that (in your head) you say, and you sound so smooth, and the girl just melts in your arms. Then you try to say them out loud, and you end saying something like: "I wish I could just, wish away my feelings, but I can't." The whole scene is like that. A scene that in one way or another, Anakin has lived through daydreams many times. And in those dreams, he always sounds cool, smooth, and like, well, a confident Jedi Master. Then he finds himself in the situation, and he's crashing and burning. He's awkward, he's unsure and everything he wants to say is coming out really badly.


I don't think it's realistic, given the time Anakin had to review his lines, that he was unable to filter out the "sounded good in your head" ones from the less forceful (no pun intended) ones. Again, if this was some girl he had just met and didn't really have a lot of time to process his mental and emotional information, I could totally see the excuse of the words coming out awkward as applicable to the scene- though I still wouldn't believe it to be the intention of the scene as written or performed (and even if it was, there are certainly ways to make the conversation awkward in a relatively realistic manner without making the exchange jarring to the audience's enjoyment/involvement in the actual film).

Or maybe my brain just has always had a better ear than Anakin's wink

 

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Spiderfan 
Registered: Mar '04
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Date Posted: 2/1 4:36am Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
The2ndQuest posted:
Darth Dark Helmet posted:
Exactly, and every line he says, sounds like the type of thing that sounds awesome in your head, when you're daydreaming about a girl you really like. The lines that (in your head) you say, and you sound so smooth, and the girl just melts in your arms. Then you try to say them out loud, and you end saying something like: "I wish I could just, wish away my feelings, but I can't." The whole scene is like that. A scene that in one way or another, Anakin has lived through daydreams many times. And in those dreams, he always sounds cool, smooth, and like, well, a confident Jedi Master. Then he finds himself in the situation, and he's crashing and burning. He's awkward, he's unsure and everything he wants to say is coming out really badly.


I don't think it's realistic, given the time Anakin had to review his lines, that he was unable to filter out the "sounded good in your head" ones from the less forceful (no pun intended) ones. Again, if this was some girl he had just met and didn't really have a lot of time to process his mental and emotional information, I could totally see the excuse of the words coming out awkward as applicable to the scene- though I still wouldn't believe it to be the intention of the scene as written or performed (and even if it was, there are certainly ways to make the conversation awkward in a relatively realistic manner without making the exchange jarring to the audience's enjoyment/involvement in the actual film).


Even then there is bumbling teenage awkwardness and there is poor screenwriting. Much of the PT falls into the second category (though not all). There is a big difference between intentionally awkward dialogue (see Michael Cera in Superbad) and simply bad dialogue.

 

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rogue_wookiee 
Registered: Apr '04
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Date Posted: 2/1 5:40am Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
In my honest opinion the problems with the prequel trilogy come down to the old adage that if you give an artist enough rope he will hang himself with it. George Lucas had no restraints making these films. Sure that makes for great visuals since you have no budget, but when you don't have anyone keeping your screenplay in check you're in trouble. Having watched a couple bonus features on the PT it's pretty obvious that everyone working on RotS was too busy kissing George's flanneled butt and didn't have the balls to say when something wasn't going to work. Film is a generally a collaborative process for a reason and the PT should be shown in film school to demonstrate what happens when the writer/director has no checks in place.

 

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Date Posted: 2/1 9:42am Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith" - Date Edited: 2/1 9:43am (2 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
I wouldn't say Lucas hung himself with the script completely- it's really just 2 or 3 scenes that fail to accomplish what they should have, but unfortunately they are rather key character scenes a good portion of the film is based on, so the effect ripples out more than it normally would.
Otherwise, AOTC really isn't a bad script (likewise with ROTS)- it just needed another pass or some touch-ups to smooth the rough edges. Unfortunately it didn't get that and just ended up giving the audience splinters.

 

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Spiderfan 
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Date Posted: 2/1 10:22am Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
Well there are a variety of little moments in otherwise great scenes that just fall completely flat as well. I have never been all that pleased with Vader's turn, and there are just little lines here and there just don't work. Sadly almost all the romantic material seems rife with the horrible lines, but its not exclusive to just them.

 

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Date Posted: 2/1 10:37am Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
Not exclusive, but certainly more prominent/noticeable and less forgiveable.

 

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Drac39 
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Date Posted: 2/1 10:38am Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
AOTC has much worse dialouge than ROTS. I actually don't think that line is horrible, a little corny maybe but not worst ever. Palpatine is given smart and eloquent dialouge in this movie. The problem with Lucas is he can't write romance.

 

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Zaz 
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Date Posted: 2/1 12:21pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
McDiarmind has priceless delivery: "Not...from a Jedi."

 

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1stAD 
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Date Posted: 2/1 12:28pm Subject: RE: The Worst Movie Dialogue Ever: Now Disc."Revenge of the Sith"
McDiarmid gives the best performance in the entire prequel trilogy, up until the duel with Mace Windu, then he becomes a crazy over-the-top bad guy.

 

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