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Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Humphrey Bogart/John Huston
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Zaz
Title: Manager: The Amphitheatre
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Date Posted:
3/24 11:34am
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Billy Wilder/Jack Lemmon
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Next: Woody Allen/Diane Keaton
Manhattan Murder Mystery (1993) .... Carol Lipton
Radio Days (1987) .... New Year's Singer
Manhattan (1979) .... Mary Wilkie
Interiors (1978) .... Renata
Annie Hall (1977) .... Annie Hall
Love and Death (1975) .... Sonja
Sleeper (1973) .... Luna Schlosser
Play It Again, Sam (1972) .... Linda Christie
Allen is a director that I don't much like, and who has repeated himself ad nauseum. The really disturbing thing is a history of infantile women in his movies--they are generally the shiksa leading women, and in this role he tends to cast his signifigant other, starting with Louise Lasser, then Keaton, and then Farrow (who's next). The nadir is perhaps "Sweet and Lowdown" where the ideal woman is presented as a mute waif.
Keaton is better, in general, than that, as her work for other directors show.
The irony is that Allen himself realizes that this is a dead end emotionally. In two of his movies, the "Oedipus Wrecks" segment of "New York Stories" and his teleplay "Don't Drink the Water" he is paired with Julie Kavner, loud, loving, domineering and Jewish, and he comes alive. The frail shiska stick-women can't compete.
So I would say that though the movies they collaborated on are held to be Allen's best, this partnership served neither of them in the long run. The persona that Allen gave her is the one the public remembers about Keaton, and this is a shame. Yes, he based it on her in real life, but at only one period of her life. She's progressed, and her image hasn't.
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Jango10
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Date Posted:
3/24 1:39pm
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Diane Keaton/Woody Allen
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I'm not a fan of Woody Allen either.
Annie Hall sucks!
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Hammurabi
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3/24 4:25pm
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Jango10 posted: Annie Hall sucks!
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Zaz
Title: Manager: The Amphitheatre
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3/24 4:33pm
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Diane Keaton/Woody Allen
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I actually like "Annie Hall"...that wasn't the point of the post.
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Zaz
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Date Posted:
3/25 11:53am
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Diane Keaton/Woody Allen
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Next: Mia Farrow & Woody Allen
Husbands and Wives (1992) .... Judy Roth
Shadows and Fog (1992) .... Irmy
Alice (1990) .... Alice Tate
Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989) .... Halley Reed
New York Stories (1989) .... Lisa
Another Woman (1988) .... Hope
September (1987) .... Lane
Radio Days (1987) .... Sally White
Hannah and Her Sisters (1986) .... Hannah
The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985) .... Cecilia
Broadway Danny Rose (1984) .... Tina Vitale
Zelig (1983) .... Dr. Eudora Nesbitt Fletcher
A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy (1982) .... Ariel
Mia Farrow spent 10 years as Allen's muse, which meant he exploited *her* life story and family (most notably in "Hannah and Her Sisters") for material. Even more waiflike than Keaton, and much less tough, she is usually the least persuasive element in any of their movies. That's not to say she hasn't been good elsewhere...she has, most notably in "Rosemary's Baby".
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Zaz
Title: Manager: The Amphitheatre
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Date Posted:
3/27 12:36pm
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Mia Farrow/Woody Allen
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Next: Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell
My complaint here is that Raimi no longer gives Campbell big roles.
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Vengance1003
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3/27 12:39pm
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell
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I love the Evil Dead Trilogy. Therefore I would agree with the pair.
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Yodas-evil-twin
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell
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From Brucefacts.com: "Bruce Campbell is the answer to life the universe and everything, although it is a common mistake to assume that it is 42. Bruce made this up to stop god from bothering him."
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rogue_wookiee
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3/28 6:08am
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell
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The Evil Dead trilogy is gold. Campbell is a great physical comedian and his battle with his hand is one of my all time favorite sequences. Campbell also steals the show in the Spider-Man movies and the 30 seconds he is on screen are some of the best moments in the films.
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Drac39
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3/28 8:58am
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell
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Bruce Campbell is friends with the Coens and Raimi and neither give him any roles anymore that are worthwhile. Bruce generally all ways has a cameo of some sort in their movies but he is talented enough to rub shoulders with the general cast.
His scene as the sterotype French waiter in Spider-Man 3 was the best performance in that waste of celluloid
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Zaz
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3/28 4:59pm
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell
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I don't understand why they don't give him better roles.
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Jango10
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3/28 5:01pm
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell
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Bruce Campbell was the best part in Spider-Man 3.
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Zaz
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Date Posted:
3/29 9:06pm
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell
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Alfred Hitchcock/Ingrid Bergman
Hitchcock liked blondes, and he especially liked Bergman, as who wouldn't.
Their first firm, "Spellbound" is good, but not great. The second one, "Notorious", is perhaps the greatest film Hitchcock ever made.
The consensus on the third one, "Under Capricorn" is that it's a misfire.
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Zaz
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Date Posted:
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Alfred Hitchcock/Ingrid Bergman
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Next: Alfred Hitchcock/Grace Kelly
Kelly was unknown when Hitchcock cast her in "Dial M For Murder" on the strength of a screen test he'd seen somewhere. Kelly came from a family with money (her father was a self-made millionaire contractor), but she preferred the milieu of her uncle George Kelly, a successful playwright. She started as a model, and was to have a short, but remarkable career.
To most modern eyes, she's not much of an actress, and has the weirdest mid-Atlantic accent. But Hitchcock liked her--he was amused by her tenacity and sense of humour; they were both Catholics. Their next movie "Rear Window" is easily Kelly's best and one of Hitchcock's five best movies. It's also Kelly's best performance (screw "The Country Girl"). Their last movie together was "To Catch a Thief", lightweight but charming, and then Kelly married royalty and retired.
Hitchcock never quite got over it. He kept trying to recreate Kelly in his lead actresses, a habit even he recognized as obsessive, and which led to his best movie, "Vertigo" in which the hero tries to recreate a woman who has died. There were always rumours that Kelly would unretire and make another Hitchcock movie--most likely "Marnie", but she didn't. From what I understand, she regretted her early retirement, but frankly, Hitchcock's obsession isn't based on talent.
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JohnWesleyDowney
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Date Posted:
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RE: Best Actor/Director Teams: Now Disc. Alfred Hitchcock/Grace Kelly
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Grace Kelly was great in Dial M for Murder, but I agree, REAR WINDOW was their best film together.
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