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Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc.The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
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Jango10
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RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "28 Weeks Later"
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From wikipedai:
In March 2007, Boyle announced plans to create a third chapter of the film franchise, which will be given the title 28 Months Later with a 2009 release date, thus creating a trilogy. Boyle has stated that his thoughts are to set the movie in Russia[34]
In June 2007, it was announced that if DVD sales of the film did well Fox Atomic would consider producing the third film.
In July 2007, while promoting Sunshine, Boyle revealed that he has a story formulating for the next film. "There is an idea for the next one, something which would move [the story] on. I've got to think about it, whether it's right or not." Boyle also revealed that he would return as the director.
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Jango10
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"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
This one is definitely better than TTT. But when compared to FOTR, it gets harder to tell. More thoughts later.
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Eeeeh, this one's a sequel in name only.
The whole thing was mostly shot all at one time. Can we really call this a sequel?
I still think of say, ESB as a sequel because even though it was generally planned, it was done as a seperate unit. This one wasn't.
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Return of the King is by far the worst LOTR movie.
but being the worst LOTR movie is still being the third best fantasy movie of all time. 
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I always found The Two Towers to be the superior film of the trilogy. It still has that last-stand battle without negating humanity's sacrifice like ROTS's battle did with the arrival of the Army of the Undead. Humanity saves humanity in TTT.
It also has the best part of Gollum's storyline, before his character's progression is essentially negated as he regresses into a flat-out villain by the end of ROTS.
TTT may suffer from having less of an ending due to it's middle-chapter nature, but ROTS overcompensates with too many endings.
Now, granted, these are flaws are Tolkien's fault as they're in the original works AFAIK, but as it stands, TTT > ROTS.
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The2ndQuest posted:
I always found The Two Towers to be the superior film of the trilogy. It still has that last-stand battle without negating humanity's sacrifice like ROTS's battle did with the arrival of the Army of the Undead. Humanity saves humanity in TTT.
Yes, humanity and the Elves. And the, uh, trees. I agree with everything else you've said, though.
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Well, fine, "mortal beings & creatures" as opposed to "unstoppable supernatural force".
It really does suck to be Rohan- had they just shown up 20 minutes later, Aragorn's ghostly army would have taken care of everything except the Witch King, and their King and many of their soliders would still be alive.
It'd be like Jean Claude Van Damne fighting the fight of his life for a half hour to keep the hordes of evil away from the innocent, only to have Superman show up and say "I'll take it from here." Jean Claude shoulda just stayed at home. (I theorize that this is what happened to his career  ).
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The2ndQuest posted:
It really does suck to be Rohan- had they just shown up 20 minutes later, Aragorn's ghostly army would have taken care of everything except the Witch King, and their King and many of their soliders would still be alive.
They did delay the bulk of the Minas Morgul army from fully committing to attack Gondor though. If they hadn't, the rest of Gondor would have fallen far more quickly, and people like Pippen and Faramir would have died. So, it was not totally futile. Plus, the Rohirrim were late anyway
But yeah, I agree. The Two Towers is probably a superior film to RotK (and, in my mind, to Fellowship). The Elves at Helms Deep affronted my Tolkien-purist leanings, but they were pretty awesome anyway.
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The2ndQuest posted:
I always found The Two Towers to be the superior film of the trilogy. It still has that last-stand battle without negating humanity's sacrifice like ROTS's battle did with the arrival of the Army of the Undead. Humanity saves humanity in TTT.
It also has the best part of Gollum's storyline, before his character's progression is essentially negated as he regresses into a flat-out villain by the end of ROTS.
And here I thought I was the only person who preferred TTT over the other films.
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Hammurabi posted:
The2ndQuest posted:
I always found The Two Towers to be the superior film of the trilogy. It still has that last-stand battle without negating humanity's sacrifice like ROTS's battle did with the arrival of the Army of the Undead. Humanity saves humanity in TTT.
It also has the best part of Gollum's storyline, before his character's progression is essentially negated as he regresses into a flat-out villain by the end of ROTS.
And here I thought I was the only person who preferred TTT over the other films.
You're not alone.
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Kyptastic posted:
The2ndQuest posted:
It really does suck to be Rohan- had they just shown up 20 minutes later, Aragorn's ghostly army would have taken care of everything except the Witch King, and their King and many of their soliders would still be alive.
They did delay the bulk of the Minas Morgul army from fully committing to attack Gondor though. If they hadn't, the rest of Gondor would have fallen far more quickly, and people like Pippen and Faramir would have died. So, it was not totally futile.
It didn't seem to me that Rohan's intervention provided that significant of a delay- Gondor would have lost another level or gate, maybe, but it never struck me as a situation that Gondor couldn't have held off long enough for the undead to save the day (of course they didn't know that, and would probably think lesser of Rohan if they didn't show up, but I'm sure Rohan could live with that...well, quite literally ).
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ROTK was absolutely amazing! I was spellbound and captivated by the movie so much that I actually paid to see it seven times. It's truly one of my favorite movies of all times. 
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ROTK was okay. It's a good film but I thought it was a bit too long and drawn-out. TTT will always be my favorite.  I Only watch FOTR to get to Towers.
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Fellowship has always been the best IMHO. But I think I'm a minority.
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