Author Topic: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc.The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
packerfansam 
Registered: Feb '07
5710_Fan Force Milwaukee
Date Posted: 7/12 9:04am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
Ever since POA, everyone expects the HP films to to be better than the one before. The first two were good, but were definitely more geared toward younger audiences, starting with this one, it became darker and more adult, as did the novels.

 

-----signature-----
Help save innocent lives, go to www.petfinder.com.
Formerly SeventhAngelicSlayer
Detroit Red Wings: 2008 Stanley Cup Champions
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Zaz 
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
Registered: Oct '98
40038_Jawa
Date Posted: 7/12 9:28am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
POA is a film; that is, the scenes in the book are translated in a kinetic way. The first half of the film is really brilliant. The last half less so, but it is by far the best of the movies, and is especially better than the dire GOF, which followed it.

 

Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Vortigern99 
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered: Nov '00
6129_Anakin Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/12 11:14am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
One of the best children's fantasy films of all time, and by far the standout of the series -- largely due to the unique visuals Cuaron applied to the film, including the seasonal vignettes with the Womping Willow, and the various scene changes in and out of mirrors and window panes. The last act of the movie, in which the same climactic events are viewed from a shifted perspective, is exhilerating and utterly unique.

 

-----signature-----
"I knew from the beginning I was not doing science fiction.
I was doing a space opera, a fantasy film, a mythological piece,
a fairy tale."--George Lucas
My "Vader's Origins" thread:
http://boards.theforce.net/Classic_Trilogy/b10002/8708417/p1
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
StarDude 
Registered: Nov '01
40009_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/12 1:32pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
Zaz posted:
POA is a film; that is, the scenes in the book are translated in a kinetic way. The first half of the film is really brilliant. The last half less so, but it is by far the best of the movies, and is especially better than the dire GOF, which followed it.



I agree wholeheartedly.

 

-----signature-----
It's not who I am underneath, but what I do
that defines me.
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
ForceJumpAnakin 
Registered: Dec '06
8163_Anakin and Padme
Date Posted: 7/12 4:24pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
It's a pretty damn good movie. Dementors and Buckbeak FTW! By the way, where would you guys rank OOTP in the series? POA > OOTP > GOF?

 

-----signature-----
Milk, Got. Hmmm?
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Armenian_Jedi 
Registered: Mar '03
8190_Anakin Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/12 4:28pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
I see OOTP as the second best HP movie right behind POA as well.

 

-----signature-----
4-8-15-16-23-42
~*Member of One Mic*~
Kurt Warner MVP watch:
TD: 21 INT: 8 YDS: 3506 PCT: 69.7 RAT: 102.4
Packers: 5-6(3rd in NFC North) Cardinals: 7-4(1st in NFC West)
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
timmoishere 
Registered: Jun '07
14706_AT-AT
Date Posted: 7/12 4:31pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
I rank them

POA
GOF
OOTP
SS
COS

 

-----signature-----
What ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?
Vikings > Pirates > Ninjas
Everything tastes better wrapped in bacon, especially bacon
11/20/2008: The day I married the most wonderful woman in the world
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
The2ndQuest 
Title: :
-LACWAC
-Lit Mod of Death
-Games

Registered: Jan '00
45729_Ithorian "Hammerhead"
Date Posted: 7/12 4:49pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
Not having read the books, it was this film that sold me on the series. The more grounded elements (kids in normal clothing, etc) combined with the darker tone and fun time travel elements made for a solid film.

 

-----signature-----
Currently Reading: Death Star
K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker?
Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
StarDude 
Registered: Nov '01
40009_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/12 6:31pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
timmoishere posted:
I rank them

POA
GOF
OOTP
SS
COS


I'd go:

POA
COS
OOTP
GOF
SS

I like the look and tone of the movies more since Chris Columbus left, which can probably be contributed to Alfonso Cuaron. OOTP felt kinda rushed, and it's my favorite of the books. GOF I think is a little choppy, although I love the final fifteen minutes or so. And SS didn't really do anything creative and adapting the first book. And the visual style was wrong and too clean. In the books the mundane collides with the fantasty making it that more fantastic. The mundane part didn't show up in Columbus's movies for the most part.

I hope I'm making sense.

 

-----signature-----
It's not who I am underneath, but what I do
that defines me.
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Zaz 
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
Registered: Oct '98
40038_Jawa
Date Posted: 7/12 9:00pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk
POA
OOTP
COS
SS
GOF

 

Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Vortigern99 
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered: Nov '00
6129_Anakin Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/12 9:07pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16. 16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azk - Date Edited: 7/12 9:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Vortigern99
If we're ranking them, I think they're all generally of a piece, with PoA edging the others out by dint of its visual flair and engaging storyline. Probably I'd go:

1. Prisoner of Azkaban -- The best in the series dramatically, emotionally, and in terms of craftsmanship. On par with The Wizard of Oz or Spirited Away as a classic children's fantasy film.

2. Goblet of Fire -- Many people's least favorite installment I find to be second only to PoA. GoF has the best performances and seems the most real-world of the HP films. The graveyard climax is some of the most stirring fantasy cinema ever seen.

3. Order of the Phoenix -- Also gets a lot of criticism for being so different from the book, but I think it's a great movie! A 900 page book, a two-hour movie: you're gonna lose some stuff. I love the polychromatic palette especially.

4. Chamber of Secrets -- I used to watch this one more than any of the others, just because it's so much darn fun. I probably watched it 3 times before I finally figured out the plot! Another classic film, if a bit unclear in places.

5. Sorcerer's Stone -- Not a bad film by a long shot, simply not as dramatic as the others. Watching it again after seeing the later installments is like re-visiting someone else's childhood. It's a very whimsical movie, which is out of fashion these days, but it too deserves its classic status.

 

-----signature-----
"I knew from the beginning I was not doing science fiction.
I was doing a space opera, a fantasy film, a mythological piece,
a fairy tale."--George Lucas
My "Vader's Origins" thread:
http://boards.theforce.net/Classic_Trilogy/b10002/8708417/p1
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
KissMeImARebel 
Registered: Nov '03
13690_Mirax Terrik
Date Posted: 7/12 9:37pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Azkaban remains my favorite HP flick, although OotP was a very good adaptation as well (and I didn't like that book all that much).

 

-----signature-----
Waru's Sword of Truth
RebelMollom of The Kind
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Zaz 
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
Registered: Oct '98
40038_Jawa
Date Posted: 7/12 9:44pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Given the immense difficulties of adapting the book, I thought OOTP was a pretty decent movie.

 

Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
GrandAdmiral_Frank 
Registered: Aug '03
41213_Han Solo
Date Posted: 7/13 8:26am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
The best Harry Potter is hands down the first film because it follows the book the best. Prisoner of Azkaban is the best book.

 

-----signature-----
Member of the Han Solo and Chewbacca FanClub
Member of the TFF
Winner of the PT Rewrite Challenge Four
"Don't make me destroy you"-Darth Vader, The Empire Strikes Back
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
rumsmuggler 
Registered: Aug '00
42319_Lando Playing Sabacc
Date Posted: 7/13 8:50am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
POA is my favorite Potter film so far.

 

-----signature-----
" Conan, what's best in life?" " Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women."
W.W.L.D. What Would Lando Do
"Why is the rum always gone?"
Retcons = making the dumb stuff look even dumber.
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History