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jedichef1
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RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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POA is definitly the best of the films.
OOTP would be my number two pick, I do think the difference between the two can be put down to the director's and the way they put the films together.
Having said that though, event though POA is a full and well written book, introducing new twists and characters which are vital for the rest of the series to follow, it is significantly shorter that the following books and has much less detail and plot points that need to be portrayed.
I personally would have liked to have seen Cuaron have a go at one of the bigger films, but I feel that the reason he didnt is because of just that, the size of the films, and the must have elements which cant be missed as we near the end.
Saying that I think David Yates did a really good job in OOTP and now he has got that under his belt I hold very high hopes for the last 3 films and I do think they will surpass POA by a distance.
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Armenian_Jedi
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RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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GrandAdmiral_Frank posted:
The best Harry Potter is hands down the first film because it follows the book the best. Prisoner of Azkaban is the best book.
So as long as it follows the book it's the best? That's a horrible view to take on the movies...
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Zaz
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RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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As the books get longer, they *must* cut stuff out. They cut rather too much out of OOTP, but the book was terribly long.
I loved the different take on the material the film-makers took in POA; hated it in GOF; and quite liked it in OOTP.
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timmoishere
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RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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GrandAdmiral_Frank posted:
The best Harry Potter is hands down the first film because it follows the book the best. Prisoner of Azkaban is the best book.
Blindly following the book is not the best way to make a movie. POA is the best movie because it differs more from the book than any of the others.
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Zaz
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RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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I don't think POA is *that* different from the book in content...it just translates the material differently.
GOF, OTOH, translates the Triwizard Tournament as part bad musical, part bad melodrama.
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Mar17swgirl
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RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 16.Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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Zaz posted:
I don't think POA is *that* different from the book in content...it just translates the material differently.
GOF, OTOH, translates the Triwizard Tournament as part bad musical, part bad melodrama.
I think, though, that GOF manages to capture the "school spirit" (that of a British boarding school, which Hogwarts is, in essence) the best of all five films.
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Jango10
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14. Evil Dead 2
Sometimes we forget there even was an 'Evil Dead,' Sam Raimi's 1987 sequel being such a superior and definitive romp in campy horror comedy (both star the inimitable Bruce Campbell). And while everyone loves the director's 'Spider-Man' movies, would it kill him to throw us a bony bodiless hand once in a while?
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Vortigern99
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This one I agree on. When I first saw ED2 in the theater in 1987, I didn't like it because it wasn't the unsettlingly scary and gritty horror film the first one was. But a few years later, I watched the movie on video with a big group of people in a party atmosphere, and it was a blast! Everyone was laughing and gasping and enjoying the wild ride. Since then I've discovered many times over the cinematic and comedic genius of this stylish mini-masterpiece. It isn't a scary movie like its artful predecessor, but it is horrifically funny.
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Drac39
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Evil Dead was really a blueprint for Evil Dead 2. The same dark humor exists in Evil Dead if you look hard enough.
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...eh, this one's tough.. Both are classics of horror, but both have their own strengths..
It's like choosing favourites among children :P I just can't do it. I love the entire series to death.
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Vengance1003
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The only funny part of the original ED was when Ash heads to the basement and slips and falls down the stairs. But yeah, the second one is a classic. Ash vs. his hand is seriously one of the funniest scenes ever.
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Jango10
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Vengance1003 posted:
The only funny part of the original ED was when Ash heads to the basement and slips and falls down the stairs. But yeah, the second one is a classic. Ash vs. his hand is seriously one of the funniest scenes ever.
QFT. ED2 is the best of the series.
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rogue_wookiee
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Evil Dead is a great horror film. Evil Dead 2 is a genre defining film with the greatest scene ever in Ash vs his hand. Army of Darkness is a great horror-comedy-adventure with the greatest line ever in "Hail to the king, baby".
It's a matter of taste and I say Evil Dead 2 is the best overall followed by Army of Darkness with Evil Dead kind of straggling at the rear because it's more straight-up horror and there are better horror films like The Thing.
Though I find it odd that Evil Dead 2 is on the list. AFAIK most fans regard it as a remake.
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Vengance1003
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Well technically only the first ten minutes are a remake. So if you cut those out and paste in ED1, then you can have a functioning trilogy.
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The2ndQuest
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RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. 15. Evil Dead 2
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Yeah, ED2 was more of a remake for the first chunk, just with the new comedic tone.
I actually first saw the movies in reverse order, which makes it a little harder to compare them, as I outright loved AOD, but found the first half of ED2 a little harder to like. I think it was because I was looking for the AOD Ash character/personality, but he doesn't show up until much later when he blurts out "I SAID I WAS OK!!" where Ash becomes the real Ash we all know and love though the hand scene and blood gusher scenes were great. ED1 feels even different due to the sraight-horror angle, though it does have the tree rape scene unique to it.
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