Author Topic: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc.The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
The_Face 
Title: Fan Fic Manager, now with more real butter flavor
Registered: Feb '03
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Date Posted: 9/19 2:12pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. Spider-Man 2
I watched Spider-Man 2 again the other day, and it struck me that I had forgotten how many bits of distinctly Raimi style were strewn throughout. Of course we all remember Dr. Octopus getting surgery, but there's a lot of good pulp moments in there (i.e. the zooms on MJ and Peter as Doc Ock approaches the cafe, numerous horror-film-style screaming ladies, etc.)

 

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Zaz 
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
Registered: Oct '98
40038_Jawa
Date Posted: 10/2 10:03pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. Spider-Man 2
I hope the CGI was better than the first. tongue

 

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Jango10 
Registered: Sep '02
Date Posted: 10/3 5:38pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. Spider-Man 2
4. Aliens

Fans of 'T2's' formidable heroine can thank this sci-fi thriller for introducing director James Cameron to the idea that a girl can kick ass and take names. Sigourney Weaver's Ripley is still the paragon of women warriors on screen, and she's never tougher than in this follow-up to Ridley Scott's original.

 

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ForceJumpAnakin 
Registered: Dec '06
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Date Posted: 10/3 6:12pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. Spider-Man 2
Wait I just realized, The Dark Knight should be on this list.

 

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Zaz 
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
Registered: Oct '98
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Date Posted: 10/3 7:08pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
I agree that "Aliens" is better, and Ripley vs. the Alien Queen involves some serious butt-kicking.

 

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Jabbadabbado 
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Registered: Mar '99
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Date Posted: 10/3 7:58pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
I think the original is a masterpiece of sci fi horror and the sequel is a masterpiece of action sci fi. There's almost no comparing the two.

If you go back now and see Alien or Aliens, whichever one, the only reasons they might seem less effective now is that they've both been so thoroughly imitated and absorbed into the language of popular moviemaking that it's hard to really see them for what they were when they were made.

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_ 
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 10/4 11:16am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
This is going to sound blasphemous but I had never seen Alien or Aliens up until 3 days ago. I gotta say though, Aliens was way better. But, I found by the end of the movie I was asking "Why does everything have to be so over the top gross?" like when Ripley rips off the webbing off Newt and it makes that really gross squish noise.

But good movie, Good movie.

 

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Jango10 
Registered: Sep '02
Date Posted: 10/4 11:27am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
ForceJumpAnakin posted:
Wait I just realized, The Dark Knight should be on this list.


Believe, I've already thought of that. As soon as we're done with this list.

 

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halibut 
Title: FF Admin & UK RSA
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 10/4 11:35am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
I prefer Alien to Aliens. By having lots of Aliens being killed fairly easily (setting up machine guns in the ducts or whatever it was - been a while since I've seen it) ruins the impact the first film had, with just the one creature.

But Jabbadabbado has it right when he says the two films are different genres.

 

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Mustafar_66 
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 10/4 2:07pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
ForceJumpAnakin posted:
Wait I just realized, The Dark Knight should be on this list.


Only problem is that Batman Begins is better than The Dark Knight...

 

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Crash_Davis 
Registered: Mar '06
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Date Posted: 10/4 3:42pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
Alien=Apples
Aliens=Oranges

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Nrf-Hrdr 
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 10/4 4:07pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
halibut posted:
I prefer Alien to Aliens. By having lots of Aliens being killed fairly easily (setting up machine guns in the ducts or whatever it was - been a while since I've seen it) ruins the impact the first film had, with just the one creature.


I find that a strange way of looking at it. A herd of tigers can be easily be killed if you have a machine gun, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be scary to be trapped in a house with one.

 

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halibut 
Title: FF Admin & UK RSA
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Date Posted: 10/5 3:19am Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
But I'd have a machine gun at home as well.

At least in Alien 3, they had NO weapons when it went back to one (enhanced) alien.

But if I was trapped in a house with a tiger and killed it, if I then mowed down a herd of tigers, I'd think "Well, that one tiger wasn't all THAT bad then, was it?"

ie Aliens reduces the tension etc of Alien

 

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Zaz 
Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre
Registered: Oct '98
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Date Posted: 10/5 1:36pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
I've always preferred the second one. YMMV.

 

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Jango10 
Registered: Sep '02
Date Posted: 10/17 4:39pm Subject: RE: Sequels That Surpass Their Predecessors - Now Disc. "Aliens"
3. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

The final chapter in the best trilogy ever has it all: the eye-popping Battle of Minas Tirith, unrequited love (Eowyn for Aragorn, NOT Sam for Frodo) and the endgames for all the members of the Fellowship. Don't whine about the overly long ending; if you're not a fan, you must be an Orc.

 

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