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Champion of the Force  800 posts
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Date Posted: 5/30 4:32am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
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Probably the only downside is the villian is so E.V.I.L.

Evil is good though (especially when played by Jason Isaacs) grin . If nothing else, The Patriot (NOT the Steven Seagal film tongue ) resulted in an awesome segment on an webisode of The Critic:

Slaves: Hello master!
Mel Gibson: Now now I'm not your master - I pay you all a good salary.
Slave: I like working in the field - beats being cooped up in some big old house.
Mel Gibson: ::points:: Dear God it's the British!
British soldier (a snake in a redcoat uniform with a swastika armband): Make way for Captain Tavington!
Tavington (as Adolf Hitler): ::in German:: Let's break for tea and crumpets!

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Chancellor_Ewok  13227 posts
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Date Posted: 5/30 6:03am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review - Date Edited: 5/30 6:12am (1 edits total) Edited By: Chancellor_Ewok
Rogue1-and-a-half posted:
I'm surprised and gratified to see you rate The Patriot so highly; it was pretty well panned when it came out, but I think it's vastly underrated. Very good movie.


Agreed. Watch the extend cut some time. It does a much better job of fleshing out certain elements of the story, like the rivalry between Tavington and Cornwallis.

 

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Forcefire  992 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1 9:06am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
The2ndQuest posted:

Worth Seeing Once: (aka: rent it or get it in the $5 bin at Best Buy or Walmart)
-High Fidelity (I haven't sene it, but I gather this is qualifies)



Of every movie in this thread so far, I think High Fidelity is actually the best, so I can't really back this classification.

 

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Katana_Geldar  27709 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1 6:30pm Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
Chancellor_Ewok posted:
Rogue1-and-a-half posted:
I'm surprised and gratified to see you rate The Patriot so highly; it was pretty well panned when it came out, but I think it's vastly underrated. Very good movie.


Agreed. Watch the extend cut some time. It does a much better job of fleshing out certain elements of the story, like the rivalry between Tavington and Cornwallis.


That movie annoyed the historian in me, particularly when I watched it a few years later after I had just done a research project on the War of Independence.

Where were the French?

I think Lafayette was the only one.

 

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Chancellor_Ewok  13227 posts
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Date Posted: 6/2 6:55am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
Actually, that was one of the few things The Patriot got right. The French were cautious because the Continentals appeared to be losing the war and the French said that they werem't going to get actively involved until the Americans could prove that they could win a European-style engagement.

 

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Gonk  10362 posts
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Date Posted: 6/2 8:28am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
Is it just me or did 2000 sort of seem like the closing end of a good run for Hollywood.

That is, I remember thinking that when Gladiator came out that there had been a run of great Hollywood films and events from 1999 that seemed to be starting to slow down (Fight Club, the Matrix -- and at least to some the Phantom Menace among others).

It's not like it was the end of an era or anything, I just remember feeling at the time that 2000 moving into 2001/2002 was a Hollywood downward slope that's probably picked back up since.

 

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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon  7410 posts
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Date Posted: 6/2 8:55am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
2000 was kind of a quiet year in terms of big 'Hollywood' movies, but I don't think the overall quality was worse than the previous years. It just tended towards a smaller scale.

There were some larger films, but with the exception of X-Men none of them really worked as demographic-bridging adventures.

They were either skewed too young (Pokemon, How the Grinch Stole Christmas!), skewed too old (The Patriot, Mission: Impossible II), or just plain awful (Battlefield Earth, Dungeons and Dragons).

But like I said, X-Men stands out as the major exception, and it's a considerable one as the film heralded the beginning of the comic-book age of movie franchises. Sure, it wasn't until Spider-Man in 2002 that things really heated up, but X-Men set the stage in a significant way.

 

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Date Posted: 6/2 9:41am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:
But like I said, X-Men stands out as the major exception, and it's a considerable one as the film heralded the beginning of the comic-book age of movie franchises. Sure, it wasn't until Spider-Man in 2002 that things really heated up, but X-Men set the stage in a significant way.

I would be more inclined to give X-Men credit than Spider-Man. Spider-Man re-iterated the point that comic book properties were bankable investments and was likely the necessary push to really convince studios, but the groundwork for that was set with X-Men. Sadly the majority of what followed was fairly mediocre at best with many films being rather abysmal, but thankfully despite the onslaught of crap we still got some real jems (X2, SM2, Iron Man, BB, TDK etc).

 

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Gonk  10362 posts
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Date Posted: 6/2 10:45am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
2000 was kind of a quiet year in terms of big 'Hollywood' movies, but I don't think the overall quality was worse than the previous years. It just tended towards a smaller scale.

I'm not saying that 2000 didn't have any good movies mind you, just that the average film had less quality becuase there were more blunders skewing the results.

And that's not to say that 2000 was particularly bad, but that 1999 had been particularly good.

 

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The2ndQuest  40065 posts
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Date Posted: 6/2 6:17pm Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review - Date Edited: 6/2 6:19pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
Every few years a year comes along that seems pretty quiet compared to those around it, in retrospect, depending on how crtain tentpoles faired. 95 seemed quiet compared to 96. 97 seemed quiet compared to 96, 98 seemed quiet compared to 97. Each year still had a major movie or two, but others fell short of the mark (Godzilla) or were more awards-centric than crowd pleaser (The English Patient, for example).

And yet it's funny that 99 seemed so good despite the fcat that there was essentially one less month in the year for big movies to be released in due to the "we aren't touching that" fear of releasing anything in the wake of TPM, something Austin powers 2 exploited heavily.


Forcefire posted:
The2ndQuest posted:

Worth Seeing Once: (aka: rent it or get it in the $5 bin at Best Buy or Walmart)
-High Fidelity (I haven't sene it, but I gather this is qualifies)



Of every movie in this thread so far, I think High Fidelity is actually the best, so I can't really back this classification.


Not having seen it, I didn't want to overrate it.

 

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Forcefire  992 posts
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Date Posted: 6/3 10:29am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
But you overcompensated! tongue

 

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The2ndQuest  40065 posts
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Date Posted: 6/17 7:25pm Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Year 2000 in Review
January & February 2001

Notable releases: (listed in release order)

January:
-A Beautiful Mind (wide release)
-Antitrust
-Save the Last Dance
-Black Hawk Down
-The Pledge
-Sugar and Spice
-The Wedding Planner

February:
-Valentine
-Hannibal
-Saving Silverman
-Down to Earth
-Super Troopers
-3000 Miles to Graceland
-Monkeybone
-The Mexican

T2Q Comments:

A Beautiful Mind: I enjoyed the film, and it's well acted, but perhaps overrated. I think it was trying to cash in on both American Beauty and Gladiator.

Antitrust: I really enjoyed this one- it's not a great movie, but it mixes a similar flavor as Hackers in with a Bill Gates clone as the evil bad guy. The Mac lover in me couldn't resist.

-Hannibal: Controversial sequel to Silence of the Lambs, and though not as good as the original, it does have several excellent sequences, even if it's a slightly different take on the character.

-Super Troopers: Introducing the Broken Lizard troupe's brand of comedy. Still their best film.

-3000 Miles to Graceland: This is a crazy, silly action movie and I quite dug it. Elvis impersonators in a crime shoot em up? Gotta love it.




Overall Trends: Save the Last Dance would have a few similar cheesy dance-centered chick flicks, a genre eventually parodied this year in Dance Movie. Sugar and Spice is, while noticebaly different, obviously trying to play off of Bring It On. The Wedding Planner is one among many medicore chick flicks with Jennifer Lopez to come. Monkeybone is added to Frasier's list of bad movies.

 

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Katana_Geldar  27709 posts
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Date Posted: 6/18 1:23am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Naughties- Jan/Feb '01
A Beautiful Mind is one of my favourite films, and I had a sort of fan moment with the Einstein scenes. Which I thought rather weird.

 

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Rogue1-and-a-half  22151 posts
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Date Posted: 6/20 9:26am Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Naughties- Jan/Feb '01
Could you expand on the connections between A Beautiful Mind and American Beauty? I see absolutely no connections between the two films, excellent as they both are.

 

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The2ndQuest  40065 posts
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Date Posted: 6/20 12:17pm Subject: Film Releases & Trends of a Decade Retrospective: The Naughties- Jan/Feb '01
You know, thinking about it, I don't think the connections are as strong as I recalled. It's just the impression of being an oscar-aimed film with surrealistic moments or interludes. It was more of a feeling, though- I retract the direct comparison.

 

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