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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 6/26 7:25pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. Richard Burton - Date Edited: 8/23 10:43pm (45 edits total) Edited By: Zaz
	Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb "The dark satire might have been Kubrick's best work, it might have gotten four major nominations, but it won nothing at the 1964 awards, mainly losing out to My Fair Lady. Even Peter Sellers, playing several leading roles, lost out to Rex Harrison from the George Cukor's Musical 'classic'." Sellers was always caught up in the 'impersonation/performance' debate. This movie is very famous, but it leaves an odd taste in my mouth.
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 6/26 7:30pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	That's the fluoridated water you're tasting. -----signature----- Personally if treating homosexuals with respect and dignity is the definition of 'anti-Christian' then I hope that Obama is the friggin' anti-Christ. - FIDo
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 6/26 7:39pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	Nope; it depresses me every time.
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goraq Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 6/26 10:35pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	Why? -----signature----- ,,Power is tearing human minds apart and putting them back together in new shapes of your own choosing. ,,
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Miana Kenobi Title: Pacific RSA & NSWFF Mod On Limited Time Registered: Apr '00	Date Posted: 6/26 10:40pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	I love this film! It's hilarious and awesome. -----signature----- President of San Diego FanForce He tini nga whetu e ngaro I te kapua iti. Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!
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Darth-Lando Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 6/26 10:56pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	I've actually never seen it, but I want to. -----signature----- "A delayed game is eventually good, a rushed game is bad forever." - Shigeru Miyamoto San Jose Sharks:15-5-4 Defending President's Trophy Winners
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darthramza Registered: Jul '08	Date Posted: 6/26 11:15pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	Fantastic and quotable film. It's a shame it didn't get anything, but then, Kubrick was never very popular with the Academy (Spartacus, which won the most awards, was really not his beast. And to be honest, it shows). Not that My Fair Lady is bad, mind you, but if I have to choose, I'll probably go with Strangelove every time. "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room." -----signature----- "Six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves." - Revolver Ocelot GDG, GMG, CDG, D.E.N.T.A.L. VP Ever Lovin' DM of the Saga of the Nameless Lands Extremely Unofficial Caretaker of Jocasta Nu's
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JohnWesleyDowney Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 6/27 12:33am Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	darthramza posted: Fantastic and quotable film. It's a shame it didn't get anything, but then, Kubrick was never very popular with the Academy (Spartacus, which won the most awards, was really not his beast. And to be honest, it shows). Not that My Fair Lady is bad, mind you, but if I have to choose, I'll probably go with Strangelove every time. "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room." You chose the best quote from a movie chocked full of them! Yes, Hollywood treated Kubrick with some derision and he repaid their attitude by moving thousands of miles away across the Atlantic ocean and staying there FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. Eventually his very absence, his refusal to play by their rules created a "presence" that fascinated the industry in L.A. He inadvertently created a mystique that eventually led Hollywood to deal with him on his terms. Amazing. -----signature----- Namaste.
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 6/27 10:02am Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove" - Date Edited: 6/27 10:04am (1 edits total) Edited By: Rogue1-and-a-half
	This is a pretty bleak film; George C. Scott, in my opinion, gives the performance here. He deserved a BSA Oscar even more than Sellers deserved the BA. My favorite quote isn't the vastly overreferenced War Room quote; it's this one: Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 6/28 10:24am Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	I don't know that Hollywood treated him with derision. And moving to England in the long run probably wasn't a good thing for Kubrick, in that he cut himself off from ordinary experience.
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JohnWesleyDowney Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 6/28 7:53pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove" - Date Edited: 6/28 7:55pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JohnWesleyDowney
	Zaz posted: I don't know that Hollywood treated him with derision. And moving to England in the long run probably wasn't a good thing for Kubrick, in that he cut himself off from ordinary experience. I don't know why living in England would cut a person off from ordinary experience. Don't people there live ordinary lives? The documentary that TMC ran the other night tackles this issue head on. Kubrick lived a normal life on a big estate surrounded by his numerous pets, his artist wife, his kids and in later life, his grand kids. He frequently visited the nearby village, and he went into London, about an hour away, about half a dozen times a year. He constantly had people visit his home, friends and people in the film industry and from other walks of life as well. When he wasn't in production, he helped his wife do ordinary chores like cleaning the house and washing clothes. While it's true he didn't enjoy travel and wasn't especially social, that's true of a lot of people. He was a voracious reader, and he stayed in constant contact with friends in the U.S. by phone and fax, and often had people send him copies of what was playing on TV in the U.S. Kubrick was a huge Simpsons fan, for example. The only people Kubrick cut himself off from were journalists and that infuriated them. As a result they would make up stuff about him, or take what little they did know and exaggerate or twist it to make him sound like a loon. In the documentary, one of his daughters said he was planning to do more interviews at the time of the release of Eyes Wide Shut, to clear up some of the myths and misconceptions about him, but his death precluded that. -----signature----- Namaste.
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Drac39 Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/28 10:39pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	I think the political undertones were a bit much for the Academy at the time. It was nominated for a Best Picture so it's not as if it were snubbed. If it were made today it wouldn't even get a nomination. It's no secret that Kubrick loved choosing challenging subject matter and often the Academy would have to see past the controversy and look at his brilliance. Lolita and The Shining were both snubbed, neither were nominated for a Director oscar due to prejudice to the material IMO -----signature----- "That's all there is to life, just a little laugh... a little tear"- Lon Chaney
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 6/29 9:09pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "Dr. Strangelove"
	21. The Shawshank Redemption "Although it made no money on release, Shawshank is now one of the most critically acclaimed and popular movies ever made. Nominated for Best Actor (Morgan Freeman), Cinematography, Editing, Music, Film, Sound and Adapted Screenplay, Shawshank won... nothing. The very fact that director Frank Darabont didn't get a Best Director nom was criminal enough. But the movie lost to Forrest Gump. Which is possibly the biggest Oscar travesty, rivalled only by Shakespeare In Love beating Saving Private Ryan, and Raging Bull losing to Ordinary People." I disliked "Forrest Gump"; but then I thought the appeal of this movie rested on the performances and the underlying story. Darrabont is a literal (and not in a good way) director.
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Drac39 Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/29 9:34pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "The Shawshank Redemption"
	If Shawshank had been successful at the box office it would have been done much better at the oscars -----signature----- "That's all there is to life, just a little laugh... a little tear"- Lon Chaney
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 6/29 9:37pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "The Shawshank Redemption"
	Quite possible. The acting was very good. I just don't agree that the directing was worth a prize; Darrabont is thuddingly obvious.
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Drac39 Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/29 11:21pm Subject: The Great Ignored: Movies Oscar Didn't Like: Now Disc. "The Shawshank Redemption"
	Darabout is a stronger screenwriter than a director but his directing for the Green Mile is very exceptional -----signature----- "That's all there is to life, just a little laugh... a little tear"- Lon Chaney
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