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Master Salty Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 6/24/02 11:33am Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	The Oddysey is still one of my favorites. The island of the siren was great. My favorite part was when Oddesseus was disguised and used his bow to shoot through the rings. -----signature----- Blue Yoda Society http://www.blueyodasociety.com
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Jenavira Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 6/24/02 3:47pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~ - Date Edited: 6/24/02 3:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jenavira
	Hmm...maybe this is the place to ask... I write a column for fanfiction.net, and I'm planning on doing one on mythology. I'd like to focus on recognizing mythology in whatever source you're using and then incorporating it into fics. I've read "Hero With a Thousand Faces" and that's probably going to take up the bulk of the column, but does anyone here know of instances where mythological references are used in fiction, or where a myth has been used as the base for a plot? (And if you mention Star Wars I shall sacrifice you to Dionysus and his Muse of Column Writing. ) Jenavira -----signature----- "When I'm old, I don't want them to say of me, 'She's so charming.' I want them to say, 'Be careful, I think she's armed.'" -G. Stoddart
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Master Salty Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 6/24/02 4:10pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	Hey, come on now. The Jedi Council is very symbolic of the Knights of the Round Table in the King Arthur Legend. -----signature----- Blue Yoda Society http://www.blueyodasociety.com
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Runaway_Shadow Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 6/25/02 3:41pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	Ha I agree. There are diffrent types of mythology in SW. At the moment I can't renmeber wich ones. Anyways. Anyone in to the Celtic Mythology??? -----signature----- "I amar prestar aen. Han mathon ne nen. Han mathon ne chae. A han noston ne 'wilith. " CHECK MY BIO FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT!
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Jenavira Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 6/25/02 4:11pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	Okay, okay, I missed the Arthur one, so I'll give you that. sigh Shadow, I posted in here earlier about Celtic myths...I adore them, but I'm afraid I don't know a lot of them off the top of my head. hangs head in shame Jenavira -----signature----- "When I'm old, I don't want them to say of me, 'She's so charming.' I want them to say, 'Be careful, I think she's armed.'" -G. Stoddart
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Master Salty Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 6/25/02 5:21pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	I don't know about them either. I'm always up for a good mythology lesson. -----signature----- Blue Yoda Society http://www.blueyodasociety.com
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Master Salty Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 6/29/02 11:06pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
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Jedi_Master_Mom Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/25/02 8:26am Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	I use to be into Celtic mythology about 10 years ago. I got into it after reading Arthurian Mythology. Good excused to dig out my books and refresh my memory. Tod I would love to here more about Finnish Mythology. I'm half Finn and just never got around to reading about it. -----signature----- *All Hail Blue Yoda!* Blue Yoda Society/Knight The Crackbrained Lunatic of Bawdy Blueness and Underpants
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Master Salty Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 7/25/02 11:07am Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	I would love to here some different myths as well. -----signature----- Blue Yoda Society http://www.blueyodasociety.com
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jedi_master_sauron Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 7/25/02 6:39pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	also check out the joseph campbell/ bill moyers interviews series that PBS will run duing pledge drives. its long but oh so worth it, and flimed at skywalker ranch. campbell's work greatly influnced GL. i posted some thoughs about padme's fate and mythology on the "official padme's fate thread". it starts around page 20 or there abouts.
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Blue_10 Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 7/25/02 6:45pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	I wish that they would make more movies based on mythology these days. Just imagine COTT with todays graphics. -----signature----- #1 on Jace_Halycron's Premature Death List at his hands It's like pacifism, only with a knife. Are you eating healthy? 9 out of 10 Experts agree that you need the 4 German Food Groups: Sodium, Cholesteral, Fat, & Grease!
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Jedi_Master_Mom Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/26/02 9:20am Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	THE CHILDREN OF LIR It happened that the five Kings of Ireland met to determine who should have the head kingship over them, and King Lir of the Hill of the White Field expected surely he would be elected. When the nobles went into council together they chose for head king, Dearg, son of Daghda, because his father had been so great a Druid and he was the eldest of his father's sons. But Lir left the assembly of the Kings and went home to the Hill of the White Field. The other Kings would have followed after Lir to give him wounds of spear and wounds of sword for not yielding obedience to the man to whom they had given the over-lordship. But King Dearg would not hear of it and said: "Rather let us bind him to us by the bonds of kinship, so that peace may dwell in the land. Send over to him for wife the choice of the three maidens of the fairest form and best repute in Erin, the three daughters of Oilell of Aran, my own three bosom-nurslings." So the messengers brought word to Lir that Dearg the King would give him a foster-child of his foster-children. Lir thought well of it and set out the next day with fifty chariots from the Hill of the White Field. And he came to the Lake of the Red Eye near Killaloe. When Lir saw the three daughters of Oilell, King Dearg said to him, "Take thy choice of the maidens." "I know not," said Lir, "which is the choicest of them all; but the eldest of them is the noblest and she I had best take." "If so," said King Dearg, "Ove is the eldest and she shall be given to thee, if thou willest." So Lir and Ove married and went back to the Hill of the White Field. And after this there came to them twins, a son and a daughter, and they named them Fingula and Aod. And two more sons came to them, Fiachra and Conn. In childbed Ove died, and Lir mourned her bitterly and but for his great love for his children he would have died of his grief. King Dearg grieved for Lir and sent to him and said: "We grieve for Ove for thy sake; but for our friendship may not be rent asunder, I will give unto thee her sister Oifa for a wife." Lir agreed and he and Oifa were united, and he took her to his house. At first she felt affection for the children of Lir and her sister, and indeed everyone who saw the children could not help giving them the love of his soul. Lir doted upon the four, and they always slept in beds in front of their father, who used to rise at early dawn each morning to lie down among his children. But thereupon the dart of jealousy passed into Oifa on account of this and she came to regard the children with hatred and enmity. One day her chariot was yoked for her and she took with her the four children of Lir in it. Fingula was not willing to go with her on the journey, for she had dreamt a dream in the night warning her against Oifa, but she was not to avoid her fate. And when the chariot came to the Lake of the Oaks, Oifa said to the people, "Kill the four children of Lir and I will give you your own reward of every kind in the world." But they refused and told her it was an evil thought she had. Then she would have raised a sword herself to destroy the children, but Oifa's own womanhood and her weakness prevented her, so she drove the four children into the lake to bathe, and they did as Oifa told them. As soon as they were on the lake she struck them with a Druid's wand of spells and wizardry and put them into the forms of four beautiful, perfectly white swans, and she sang this song over them: "Out with you upon the wild waves, children of the king! Henceforth your cries shall be with the flocks of birds." And Fingula answered: "Thou witch! We know thee by thy right name! Thou mayest drive us from wave to wave, But sometimes we shall rest on the headlands; We shall receive relief, but thou punishment. Though our bodies may be upon the lake, Our minds at least shall fly homewards." And again she spoke, "Assign an end for the ruin and woe which thou hast brought upon us." Oifa laughed and said, "Never shall ye be free until the woman from the south be united to the man from the north, until Lairgnen of Connaught wed Deoch of Munster; nor shall any have power to bring you out of these forms. Nine hundred years shall you wander over the lakes and streams of Erin. This only I will grant unto you: That you retain your own speech, and there shall be no music in the world equal to the plaintive music you shall sing." This she said because repentance seized her for the evil she had done. Then she spake this lay: "Away from me, ye children of Lir, Henceforth the sport of the wild winds Until Lairgnen and Deoch come together, Until ye are on the north-west of Red Erin. A sword of treachery is through the heart of Lir, Of Lir the mighty champion, Yet though I have driven a sword, My victory cuts me to the heart." Then she turned her steeds and went on to the Hall of the King. The nobles of the court asked her where were the children of Lir, and Oifa said, "Lir will not trust them to King Dearg." But Dearg thought in his mind that the woman had played some treachery upon them, and he thus sent messengers to the Hall of the White Field. Upon learning that the children had not arrived at the King's Hall with their mother, Oifa, Lir was melancholy at heart, for he knew that Oifa had done wrong to his children, and he set out to the Lake of the Red Eye. When the children of Lir saw him coming, Fingula sang the lay: "Welcome the cavalcade of steeds Approaching the Lake of the Red Eye, A company dread and magical Surely seek after us. Let us move to the shore, O Aod. Fiachra and comely Conn, No host under heaven can those horsemen be But King Lir with his mighty household Now as she said this King Lir had come to the shore and heard the swans speaking with human voices. He spoke to the swans and asked who they were. Fingula answered, "We are thy children, ruined by thy wife, sister of our mother, through her ill mind and jealousy. None can relieve us till the woman from the south and the man from the north come together, till Lairgnen of Connaught wed Deoch of Munster." Lir and his people raised their shouts of grief and lamentation, and they stayed by the lake listening to the wild music of the swans until the swans flew away, and Lir went on to the Hall of the King. He told Dearg what Oifa had done. Dearg the King put his power upon Oifa and bade her say what shape on earth she would think worst of all. She said it would be the form of an air-demon. "It is into that form that I shall put you," said Dearg the King, and he struck her into the form of an air-demon. And she flew away at once, and she is still an air-demon, and shall be so forever. The children continued to delight the Milesian clans with the sweet fairy music of their songs, and no sweeter sound was ever heard in Erin to compare with their music until the time came appointed for the leaving the Lake of the Red Eye. Then Fingula sang this parting lay: "Farewell to thee, Dearg the King, Master of all Druid's lore! Farewell to thee, our father dear, Lir of the Hill of the White Field! We go to pass the appointed time Away and apart from the haunts of men In the current of the Moyle, Our garb shall be bitter and briny, Until Deoch come to Lairgnen. So come, ye brothers of once ruddy cheeks; Let us depart from this Lake of the Red Eye, Let us separate in sorrow from the tribe that has loved us." And after they took to flight, flying highly, lightly, aerially till they reached the Moyle, between Erin and Albain. The Men of Eric were grieved at their leaving, and it was proclaimed throughout Erin that henceforth no swan should be killed. Then they stayed all solitary, all alone, filled with cold and grief and regret, until a thick tempest came upon them and Fingula said: "Brothers, let us appoint a place to meet if the power of the winds separate us." They said, "Let us appoint to meet, O sister, at the Rock of the Seals." Then the waves rose up and the thunder roared, the lightning flashed, the sweeping tempest passed over the sea, so that the children of Lir were scattered from each other over the great sea. There came, however, a placid calm after the great tempest and Fingula found herself alone. "Woe upon me that I am alive! My wings are frozen to my sides. O beloved three, O beloved three, Who hid under the shelter of my feathers, Until the dead come back to the living, I and the three shall never meet again!" And she flew to the Lake of the Seals and soon saw Conn coming towards her with heavy step and drenched feathers, and Fiachra also, cold and wet and faint, and no word could they tell, so cold and faint were they, but she nestled them under her wings and said, "If Aod could come to us now our happiness would be complete." But soon they saw Aod coming towards them with dry head and preened feathers. Fingula put him under the feathers of her breast, and Fiachra under her right wing, and conn under her left, and they made this lay: "Bad was our stepmother with us, She played her magic on us, Sending us north on the sea In the shapes of magical swans. Our bath upon the shore's ridge Is the foam of the brine-crested tide, Our share of the ale feast Is the brine of the blue-crested sea." One day they saw a splendid cavalcade of pure white steeds coming towards them, and when they came near they were the two sons of Dearg the King who had been seeking for them to give news of King Dearg and their father Lir. "They are well," said they, "and live together happy in all except that ye are not with them, and for not knowing where ye have gone since the day he left the Lake of the Red Eye." "Happy are not we," said Fingula, and she sang this song: "Happy this night the household of Lir, Abundant their meat and their wine. But for the children of Lir-- what is their lot? For bed-clothes we have our feathers, And as for our food and our wine-- The white sand and the bitter brine, Fiachra's bed and Conn's place Under the cover of my wings on the Moyle, Aod has the shelter of my breast, And so side by side we rest." So the sons of Dearg the King came to the Hall of Lir and told the King and Lir the condition of the children. Then the time came for the children of Lir to fulfill their lot, and they flew in the current of the Moyle to the Bay of Erris, and remained there til the time of their fate, and then they flew to the Hill of the White Field and found all desolate and empty, with nothing but unroofed green raths and forests of nettles; no house, no fire, no dwelling-place. The four came close together and they raised three shouts of lamentation aloud and Fingula sang this lay: "Uchone! It is bitterness to my heart To see my father's house forlorn-- No hounds, no packs of dogs, No women, and no valiant kings No drinking-horns, no cups of wood, No drinking in its lightsome halls. Uchone! I see the state of this house That its lord our father lives no more. Much have we suffered in our wandering years, By winds buffeted, by cold frozen; Now has come the greatest of our pain-- There lives no man who knoweth us in the house where we were born." So the children of Lir flew away to the Glory Isle of Brandan the Saint and they settled upon the Lake of the Birds until the holy Patrick came to Erin and the holy Mac Howg came to Glory Isle. And the first night he came to the island, the children of Lir heard the voice of his bell ringing for matins, so that they started and leapt about in terror at hearing it; and her brothers left Fingula alone. "What is it, beloved brothers?" said she. "We know not what faint, fearful voice it is we have heard." Then Fingula recited this lay: "Listen to the Cleric's bell, Poise your wings and raise Thanks to god for his coming, Be grateful that you hear him. He shall free you from pain, And bring you from the rocks and stones. Ye comely children of Lir Listen to the bell of the Cleric." And Mac Howg came down to the brink of the shore and said to them: "Are ye the children of Lir?" "We are indeed," said they. "Thanks be to God!" said the saint; "it is for your sakes I have come to this Isle beyond every island in Erin. Come ye to land now and put your trust in me." So they came to land, and he made for them chains of bright white silver, and put a chain between Aod and Fingula and a chain between Conn and Fiachra. It happened at this time that Lairgnen was prince of Connaught and he was wed to Deoch the daughter of the King of Munster. She had heard the account of the birds and she became filled with love and affection for them, and she said she would not wed till she had the wondrous birds of Glory Isle. Lairgnen sent for them to the Saint Mac Howg. But the Saint would not give them, and both Lairgnen and Deoch went to Glory Isle. And Lairgnen went to seize the birds from the altar; but as soon as he had laid hands on them their feathery coats fell off, and the three sons of Lir became three withered bony old men, and Fingula, a lean withered old woman without blood or flesh. Lairgnen started at this and left hastily, but Fingula chanted this lay: "Come and baptise us, O Cleric, Clear away our stains! This day I see our grave-- Fiachra and Conn on each side, And in my lap, between my two arms, Place Aod, my beauteous brother." After this lay, the children of Lir were baptised. And they died, and were buried as Fingula had said, Fiachra and Conn on either side, and Aod before her face. A cairn was raised for them, and on it their names were written in runes. And that is the fate of the children of Lir. -----signature----- *All Hail Blue Yoda!* Blue Yoda Society/Knight The Crackbrained Lunatic of Bawdy Blueness and Underpants
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Adi_Gallia_9 Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 7/26/02 7:08pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	Hi. I'm a high school student who adores mythology (particularly Greek) and is thinking of majoring in the classics. Can I join the conversation? -----signature----- http://rebelshaven.com/SWFFAQ My site dedicated to the amazing costumes of Padme and her handmaidens!
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MariahJade2 Title: Former Fan Fiction Archive Editor Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 7/26/02 8:10pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	Love mythology and folklore. One of my favorite courses that I took in college was one on Russian Folklore. They had a very interesting spirit world filled with all sorts characters. The most important being Mother Earth, the main goddess. Then they seemed to have a spirit for everything. The spirit of the hearth, which was a spirit that basically lived in their fireplaces, and protected the home. They had had water spirits and Rusalki, which I think were the spirits of drowned girls. Forest spirits would make you get lost, and they were very big on Ancestor worship, to the point that they left food out for their dead relatives. -----signature----- Have a question or suggestion for the Archive? Ask the NEWBS! Thank you Phillies! World Series Champs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7CI39brXvw "Why can't us" Best line of 2008
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Master Salty Registered: Apr '99	Date Posted: 7/26/02 11:54pm Subject: RE: ~~Mount Olympus Mythology Palace~~
	Anybody can join the conversation. That was a great story BTW. I really wish they would remake COTT with today's graphics. Actually they should make some more movies that are centered on mythology. -----signature----- Blue Yoda Society http://www.blueyodasociety.com
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