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Reynar_Tedros  9473 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 10:11am Subject: The MLB Discussion Thread
Alright ladies and gentlemen, it’s here. Welcome to the Arena's first, primary, exclusive, awesome, exquisite, topped with pepperoni and a side of mashed potatoes, MLB Discussion Thread!

The offseason is upon us, and it is sure to be an exciting one once again. A lot of big names on the free agent market, including NL MVP candidate (and winner IMHO) Alfonso Soriano, NL Comeback Player of the Year Nomar Garciaparra, and the energetic speedster Juan Pierre.

Who will end up where? Who will be the MVP of their respective leagues? Who will clean house, and who will keep it the mess it is? We've only got 5 more months until opening day, let's get to it folks!

 

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Rogue...Jedi  17312 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 10:30am Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
The Braves have three issues to address, IMO, of which 2 really need to be filled (and possibly by 1 player): Left Field, Second Base, and Leadoff Batter.

It looks like Giles will be traded this winter, so a leadoff 2nd baseman would work, and then there are other players (Langerhans, Diaz, Kelly Johnson, among others) than can fill in for LF. Alternatively, a leadoff LF would also work, and then let prospect Martin Prado be the starting 2nd baseman next year. Either would be just fine for me.

They could also use a little bullpen help, but I don't think its all that big of a concern. Starting rotation looks good with Smoltz-Hudson-Hampton and pick two of Ramirez-Davies-James (I say Davies and James as of right now, with Ramirez being traded).

 

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ObiWan506  28558 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 11:39am Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
Johan Santana just won his second CY Young award with a unanimous vote.

 

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Date Posted: 11/16/06 12:53pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
Number of people surprised: Zero.

 

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Reynar_Tedros  9473 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 2:09pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
I'm relieved that Trevor Hoffman didn't get the Cy Young. I'm not ignoring the fact that he broke a very impressive record this season, but I stand by the belief that closers should not win Cy Youngs. Plus, I don't think B-Webb deserved it either. Roy Oswalt is the winner in my mind. He finished off the year with a 15-8 record (could have made it to at least 18 if he had a smidgeon of an offense behind him) with a 2.98 ERA and 166 k's.

On another note, the Jays will likely sign The Big Hurt. However, $20 million is way too steep. Ricciardi definitely has some bargaining issues. Thomas is old (38) and no stranger to injuries. $20 million is too much. A's picked him up for only $500,000 last season with a couple million (2.6) in season bonuses. Thomas hits 39 homers and now he's worth 20 million? Ah well, it looks like a done deal pending a physical.

 

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MasterP  25771 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 2:55pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
Earlier today the White Sox and Cubs exchanged relievers. The Sox gave up Neal Cotts for David Aardsma and Minor League pitcher Carlos Vasquez.

 

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Rogue...Jedi  17312 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 3:29pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
Had the Braves had a decent bullpen this year, Smoltz would have been in the discussion - he went 16-9 as it was, just as many wins as anyone else, and could have been 22-9 if the bullpen hadn't blown his leads so often. Also up at the top in strikeouts and IP.

He finished strong, too, going 4-0 with a 0.98 ERA in his last four starts, but it was too little, too late.

 

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Jedi_Master_Ron  4955 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 4:14pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
The Red Sox won the bidding for a 26-year old right handed pitcher from Japan, Daisuke Matsuzaka. They still haven't signed a contract, but I really hope he's worth all this money.

 

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Reynar_Tedros  9473 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 5:03pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 11/16/06 5:11pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Reynar_Tedros
$32 million a year for a pitcher who's never pitched in the MLB before. I think that's a huge mistake for the Red Sox, unless Scott Boras simply wouldn't have it any other way (in which case I'd be shocked that the deal got done this quickly). In today's Hardball Times, David Gassko claims that Matsuzaka would be worth $22M over 3 years or $49 over 4 years, once the posting fee and possible Japanese revenue streams are taken into account.

In other news, the Astros found their new pitching coach in Dave Wallace. Not a bad move, but Jim Hickey is not the one who should've been fired from the organization in the first place. They should have said bye-bye to Phil Garner, one of the most pathetic excuses for a manager I've ever seen.

Also, I just read that the Astros are believed to have made offers to Carlos Lee and Alfonso Soriano, but Purpura would only confirm that he has made offers to free agents and would not identify which ones. Purpura has had multiple discussions with Lee's agent Adam Katz and Soriano's agent Fern Cuza. I wouldn't mind having Lee, but I think Soriano would benefit the team more than Carlos would.

And Purpura also confirmed that he spoke with Barry Meister, the agent for Woody Williams on Tuesday and planned to contact Meister again Wednesday or Thursday. If this happens, the Astros are truly lost. We do not need another pitcher, especially an old one, until we've signed a big bat, darn it!

 

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Jedi_Master_Conor  11449 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 5:45pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
MasterP posted:
Earlier today the White Sox and Cubs exchanged relievers. The Sox gave up Neal Cotts for David Aardsma and Minor League pitcher Carlos Vasquez.


i heard about that. i didn't know that was going to happen

 

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Jedi_Master_Ron  4955 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 6:17pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
Reynar_Tedros posted:
$32 million a year for a pitcher who's never pitched in the MLB before. I think that's a huge mistake for the Red Sox, unless Scott Boras simply wouldn't have it any other way (in which case I'd be shocked that the deal got done this quickly). In today's Hardball Times, David Gassko claims that Matsuzaka would be worth $22M over 3 years or $49 over 4 years, once the posting fee and possible Japanese revenue streams are taken into account.


I'm hoping he's worth the money, I'm worried about this. I personally think it was the wrong move, though I have never seen him play, I really hope he proves me wrong.

 

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ObiWan506  28558 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 7:58pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 11/16/06 7:58pm (1 edits total) Edited By: ObiWan506
Federal judge dismisses lawsuit that was seeking to stop construction of the Yankees new 1 Billion Dollar stadium

Slow baseball day.

 

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Master_Kast7  18711 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 10:10pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
Thank you Mr. Judge! happy


Reynor: What's your reasoning for Soriano over Pujols, Howard, Berkman?

 

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Date Posted: 11/16/06 10:26pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
Reynar_Tedros posted:
A lot of big names on the free agent market, including NL MVP candidate (and winner IMHO) Alfonso Soriano, NL Comeback Player of the Year Nomar Garciaparra, and the energetic speedster Juan Pierre


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Soriano would be no higher than fourth on my list. (Pujols, Howard, Beltran, then maybe Soriano) His team was nowhere near contention.

 

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Reynar_Tedros  9473 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 11:09pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
Master_Kast7, thank you for mentioning Lance Berkman.

I guess the reason I favor Soriano over the rest of the candidates is because of his versatility. 46 homers, 41 stolen bases, and 41 doubles with 95 ribbies floats my boat. Buuuuut, I just looked over his 2006 stats, and I'm afraid I thought he did better this season than he actually did. 160 k's in 159 games is a big no-no.

*shrugs*

Guess my vote goes to Beltran then, since I can't stand Pujols or Howard. As much as I'd like to give it to my man Berkman, I just don't think he did enough this season.

 

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Master_Kast7  18711 posts
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Date Posted: 11/16/06 11:27pm Subject: RE: The MLB Discussion Thread
This one is for AJ.......



POO-HOLES!

 

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