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DarthIshtar
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11/16/06 6:18pm
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Is there any validity to sports superstition?
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For example:
The Curse of the Bambino. 85 years passed between the time that the Red Sox sold Babe Ruth to the New York Yankees and invoked his curse and the year that the Boston Red Sox won the World Series.
Some players have bizarre pre-game or post-touchdown rituals for luck.
Is there any point to this or is it just something to make us think that the supernatural has control over human fault?
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Jedi_Master_Conor
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how about the billy goat curse with Chicago Cubs
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Strilo
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Had to go there, didn't you Conor. //waves banstick//
I don't believe in curses. Not with the Red Sox and not with the Cubs. It's all a bunch of simple tricks and nonsense.
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Jedi_Master_Conor
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Strilo posted:
Had to go there, didn't you Conor. //waves banstick//
i felt obligated 
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DarthIshtar
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I think it's amusing, but kind of pointless.
What's the Chicago Cubs thing?
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Back in the 1920's some old guy was't allowed to bring his billy goat into Fenway park and supposedly cursed the Cubs to never EVER win another World Championship. It's what the silly Cubs fans blame for never winning a World Series and how they explain the Bartman catch of 2003.
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Here's a different example. My brother played on a hockey team in 8th grade I think. The team had only 10 players. They were told they couldn't win a state championship with only 10 players. Well their goalie had the most superstitions I've ever heard of:
1. He would only drink water from our hometown in his waterbottle, so we had to drag water all over the state for him.
2. He had to have Subway before and after the game.
3. He made some sort of Vick's vapor steam thing that he had to use before each game.
4. He performed a ritual in the goal and touched the goal posts before each faceoff (this one is fairly common in goalies)
5. I'm also pretty sure he wore the same socks or something w/o washing them for the entire playoffs.
They won state that year and he was a good goalie, so he was able to get away with all these superstitions.
Edit: Also, whatever curse has been set upon the Colts seems to be working nicely (unfortunately). I'm still hoping they pull it together this year.
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Rogue...Jedi
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I think the curses do exist in people's heads. That is, they become convinced that something wont happen no matter what they do, and so it doesn't. Or that they will get it a hit if they do certain things, but not if they don't, and if affects confidence and so forth.
So in that sense, they do exist and are valid.
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Juliet316 posted:
Back in the 1920's some old guy was't allowed to bring his billy goat into Fenway park and supposedly cursed the Cubs to never EVER win another World Championship. It's what the silly Cubs fans blame for never winning a World Series and how they explain the Bartman catch of 2003.
Wrong. It was 1945 and it was Wrigley Field. The Red Sox play at Fenway. And normal Cubs fans don't use the curse as an excuse. Only the idiots.
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Strilo posted:
Juliet316 posted:
Back in the 1920's some old guy was't allowed to bring his billy goat into Fenway park and supposedly cursed the Cubs to never EVER win another World Championship. It's what the silly Cubs fans blame for never winning a World Series and how they explain the Bartman catch of 2003.
Wrong. It was 1945 and it was Wrigley Field. The Red Sox play at Fenway. And normal Cubs fans don't use the curse as an excuse. Only the idiots.
Sorry, don't pay too much attention to baseball except during the postseason so if I mix up stadiums and historical dates, forgive me. 
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Rogue...Jedi posted:
I think the curses do exist in people's heads. That is, they become convinced that something wont happen no matter what they do, and so it doesn't. Or that they will get it a hit if they do certain things, but not if they don't, and if affects confidence and so forth.
So in that sense, they do exist and are valid.
Pretty much similar to my line of thinking. External superstitions are just comforts/excuses as to why teams/individuals don't end up winning a competition.
The individualistic superstitions on the other hand can have an effect. While it isn't in that they are real, but the psychological impact that they have. If in performing a specific set of rituals before a game, or in wearing specific clothing, this provides a player with a level of comfort, familiarity or whatever it can lessent the anxiety that builds up, stop the influx of adrenaline well before it would be of use, and act as a form of meditation to get a person to a certain mindset that they need to perform at their best.
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I just think Nomar Garciaparra is kind of strange.
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Speaking of the Cubs, I think Turk Wendell still holds the record for most rituals.
Chewing black licorice, brushing his teeth in between innings, hopping over the baselines, drawing Xs in the mound, wouldn't catch the ball if the umpire threw it to him, etc...
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I believe in the Curse of the Billy Goat and the Curse of the Billy Penn Statue.
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I believe the entire city of Cleveland is cursed.
I fully expect one of the following scenarios to happen in the next three years:
- Lebron James leads a captivating fourth quarter comeback in game six of the NBA finals to force a game seven, but breaks his foot on the final play while hitting the winning shot. The Cavaliers are then thumped in the game seven by about 60.
- Lebron James makes a three pointer in game seven of the NBA finals to give the Cavs a two point lead with .4 seconds left, and the other team having no timeouts. They inbound, put up the desperation heave go, and the Cavs lose as the shot goes in cleanly.
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I believe the entire city of Cleveland is cursed.
Of course it is. It's Cleveland.
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