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DarthIntegral
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so ... umm ... lol @ Shaun Alexander?
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DRHJ9
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Darth McClain posted:
Sapp was a pretty good player. He and the rest of that Tampa Bay defense were pretty impressive in 2002. His productivity had slowed since he went to Oakland (imagine that, with Al Davis in charge!).
His slowdown was because of Rob Ryan, not Al Davis. Ryan put in a 3-4 scheme when he came in Sapp was moved to end, and not his three technique DT position. When he was switched back to DT, he had a pro Bowl calibur year. Last year, he was great against the run, had a few sacks, but does not have the motor he once had.
Sapp should be getting some attention too. He was the most dominant DT in the game (during his career) in his prime, which were his Tampa years.
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DarthIntegral posted:
so ... umm ... lol @ Shaun Alexander?
I love the headline on espn.com
"Hawks sign Jones; Alexander confused"
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Eeth-my-Koth
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I'd take him despite his decline.
Wondering what our resident Niners girl Kendra thinks about this.
http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/buzz/2008/03/09/jerry-rice-would-ok-bruce-wearing-49ers-80/
I think it's really cool of Jerry Rice.
But he's really caught between a rock and a hard place.
If he says "no," he comes across like a huge ******bag.
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DarthIntegral
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Eeth-my-Koth posted:
I'd take him despite his decline.
Wondering what our resident Niners girl Kendra thinks about this.
http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/buzz/2008/03/09/jerry-rice-would-ok-bruce-wearing-49ers-80/
I think it's really cool of Jerry Rice.
But he's really caught between a rock and a hard place.
If he says "no," he comes across like a huge ******bag.
That story looks familiar ... JMJacenSolo posted:
Jerry Rice gives Issac Bruce permission to wear #80
Oh, yeah.
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Eeth-my-Koth
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That's what I get for ignoring the thread for a week and then just posting without reading back.
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Behavior like that certainly explains your signature.
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Sundquist Out as Broncos GM
From that story, it would seem that he was fired. Whether that had to do with finishing 7-9 last season, mediocre drafting throughout his tenure as GM, or some of the recent offseason moves is anyones guess. I'd like to think the guy was instrumental in bringing in players like Champ Bailey and John Lynch, and working the 2006 draft to move up and pick Jay Cutler. I wonder if they'll try to hire someone else before the draft, or if they'll wait until next season. I just hope Shanny doesn't absorb the position.
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It would be a bit catastrophic if Shannahan took the GM position, unless he was stepping down as coach (highly unlikely)...sigh...
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But I thought he was a genius and the ultimate leader? 
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It appears that Oakland is trading for DeAngelo Hall, for a 2nd round pick.
Unless the Raiders are planning to trade down for more picks, I really do not like this, even though Hall is a very good cover man.
I wanted Oakland to get a REC in round 2.
Ahh... the drama of my beloved dysfunctional team.....
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Pre-draft rankings:
1. Indianapolis Colts (13-3) – No major defections. Forget Peyton Manning and company for a moment. If healthy next year, this should be a very, very good young defensive team.
2. New England Patriots (16-0) – Fernando Bryant should be a nice little reclamation project. But losing talent in that secondary year after year is going to hurt this defense (haven’t we heard that before?).
3. Dallas Cowboys (13-3) – Zach Thomas still has something left in the tank and will help this defense in the middle of the field. Tony Romo needs to get this team over the hump, because Terrell Owens isn’t getting any younger (he turns 35 this season).
4. San Diego Chargers (11-5) – Other than Michael Turner, all of the free agent losses will be replaced with better talent internally. And quietly, linebacker Derek Smith could turn out to be one of the steals of the offseason.
5. Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) – It remains to be seen whether Jerry Porter can be the No. 1 wideout that the Jaguars seem to think he is. And Jacksonville better hope that parting ways with Marcus Stroud and Bobby McCray doesn’t come back to haunt the franchise.
6. Cleveland Browns (10-6) – The additions of Shaun Rogers, Corey Williams, Donte Stallworth and Rex Hadnot should make the Browns far better. Anything less than competing at the top of the AFC is a disappointment.
7. New York Giants (10-6) – Giants fans seem to think last season’s Super Bowl win translates into automatic success in 2008. But the division is still brutal, and some players tend to slack off the year after getting a ring. Don’t be surprised if turmoil returns again with a slow start.
8. Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) – Mewelde Moore was an underrated pickup and should do very well in this offense. But until some of the young linebackers blossom, this defense won’t be consistent.
9. Seattle Seahawks (10-6) – Julius Jones’ star will rise again with Seattle. But make no mistake, time is running short for building blocks like Matt Hasselbeck and Walter Jones. If Seattle can’t get it done this year, a period of transition looms.
10. Green Bay Packers (13-3) – The pressure is on Aaron Rodgers to show he can keep the offense at an elite level, and Justin Harrell has some shoes to fill, too. And how long before Al Harris and Charles Woodson hit the cornerback wall that arrives in the early to mid 30s?
11. Tennessee Titans (10-6) – Other than adding Algae Crumpler, this offense doesn’t look any better than last season. And it was worrisome to see so many serviceable players depart in the offseason (Antwan Odom, Travis LaBoy, Chris Brown, Jacob Bell and Randy Starks).
12. New Orleans Saints (7-9) – It’s time for Reggie Bush to show he’s more than an over-hyped third-down back. And if that defense can get the most out of some good offseason additions (Jonathan Vilma, Dan Morgan, Bobby McCray and Randall Gay), that unit could be vastly improved.
13. Houston Texans (8-8) – There wasn’t much noise in the offseason, so improvement will have to come from a lot of the talented younger players who made strides down the stretch. But free agent pickup Chris Brown could be a very, very good player in this zone blocking scheme.
14. Washington Redskins (9-7) – This was undoubtedly the most underwhelming offseason ever under Dan Snyder. But maybe that’s a good thing. Where this team goes hinges on what Jim Zorn can do with Jason Campbell, plain and simple.
15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) – A lot of money was spent in the offseason on a lot of aging veterans who appear to be on the downside of their careers. But does anyone really expect guys like Warrick Dunn, Marques Douglas and Jeff Faine to turn this into an NFC powerhouse?
16. Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) – The Asante Samuel pickup was a splash, but it’s going to take the development of the young guys in the front seven (Brodrick Bunkley, Chris Gocong, Omar Gaither, etc.) to move this franchise back into the NFC elite.
17. Minnesota Vikings (8-8) – Madieu Williams and Bernard Berrian were quality pickups, even if they were overpriced. But Bryant McKinnie is in trouble again, and there still isn’t an answer at quarterback, so this still looks like a middling team.
18. Arizona Cardinals (8-8) – Larry Fitzgerald’s jacked up contract translated into a pretty mundane offseason. The losses of Bryant Johnson and Calvin Pace outweigh the addition of Travis LaBoy. And Matt Leinart is going to feel a lot of pressure to perform this season.
19. Buffalo Bills (7-9) – The Bills could be a playoff team with the return of Paul Posluszny and the additions of Marcus Stroud and Kawika Mitchell. But you have to be able to score to advance in the AFC, and Trent Edwards has a lot of development ahead.
20. Denver Broncos (7-9) – The additions of Boss Bailey and Marlon McCree didn’t blow anyone away. What Mike Shanahan needs is some significant pass rushing contributions from 2007 draft picks Jarvis Moss and Tim Crowder.
21. St. Louis Rams (3-13) – Just getting through training camp healthy would be big step forward for this team. Josh Brown gives some consistency in the kicking game, and the defense has some nice young talent on the line. But a healthy offense is pivotal.
22. New York Jets (4-12) – Alan Faneca, Jesse Chatman and Calvin Pace are all respectable additions. The jury is still out on Damien Woody, Kris Jenkins and Bubba Franks. But if Kellen Clemens can’t turn the corner, the Jets are in for another long season.
23. Chicago Bears (8-8) – Rex Grossman and Cedric Benson are still huge weaknesses on offense, not to mention the line. And Marty Booker and Brandon Lloyd aren’t going to scare any of the contenders in the NFC. At least the defense retained Lance Briggs and should be healthy in 2008.
24. Oakland Raiders (4-12) – DeAngelo Hall and Nnamdi Asomugha give the Raiders a nice veteran tandem at cornerback, and Gibril Wilson should be a serviceable safety. But all eyes are on JaMarcus Russell, who should like Drew Carter as a deep threat.
25. Cincinnati Bengals (7-9) – Antwan Odom was a nice little addition, but there wasn’t much else that moved the needle in free agency. The failure to land Shaun Rogers or Dewayne Robertson hurt. Growing headache Chad Johnson should be dangled for more defensive line help.
26. Carolina Panthers (7-9) – D.J. Hackett and Landon Johnson should be two very solid veteran additions. But the offseason departures (Kris Jenkins, Dan Morgan, Drew Carter, Justin Hartwig, DeShaun Foster and Mike Wahle) make this feel like a team in transition.
27. Detroit Lions (7-9) – A handful of aging players on the decline (Chuck Darby, Brian Kelly and Dwight Smith) aren’t going to transform a bad defense. The Lions should still be able to score some points, but there are no signs of pulling out of mediocrity.
28. San Francisco 49ers (5-11) – If Alex Smith is healthy (and that’s a titanic “if”), Mike Martz should be able to get some mileage out of this offense. Particularly with the additions of Bryant Johnson and Isaac Bruce. But when is Mike Nolan’s defense going to turn a corner?
29. Baltimore Ravens (5-11) – Steve McNair looked like he was done last season, and drafting a quarterback in the first round isn’t going to help this franchise in the short term. Elements of the defense are getting old. It looks like time for a multiyear rebuild.
30. Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) – With a free agency period that netted some serviceable veterans (Devard Darling and Demorrio Williams), the draft is going to be important. Could Herm Edwards be angling for Matt Ryan to buy himself some more time to rebuild?
31. Miami Dolphins (1-15) – I’d rather have Bill Parcells coaching my team than sitting in the front office and tinkering with the roster. Too bad he has the No. 1 pick in a flat draft. Don’t count out Vernon Gholston in that spot.
32. Atlanta Falcons (4-12) – Michael Turner and Erik Coleman were both nice pickups, but this franchise is in total rebuilding mode. You get the feeling the whole Michael Vick debacle is going to hang over this franchise far, far beyond this decade.
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Juliet316
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I have a feeling the Falcons are eventually going to fold as a franchise. The Vick thing is never going to go away, especially as long as many of the same players that supported Vick (Like Dunn, Horn, etc.,) are still on the team. Anybody that was involved in that "Free Vick" T - Shirt fiasco is a cancer and needs to be gotten rid of. The Falcons are never going to completely rebuild on until Dunn, Horn and other Vick supporters are out of that lockerroom.
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Actually, Warrick Dunn was released a while ago and is now on the Bucs again. One down...
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The Falcons have never had consecutive winning seasons.
Funniest fun fact ever. 
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