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Darth McClain
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3/12 10:39am
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RE: The Sporting News Top 100 Greatest NFL Players (#s 10-6)
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Not real surprised about the top five. They are good choices.
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DarthIntegral
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My only complaint with the top five is I'd have Montana over Rice.
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Well, Rice has like it says virtually every receiving record. Montana on the other hand does not have every passing record. Yes, he won 4 Super Bowls. Yes, he was the best quarterback on this list. But, Rice kept catching passes even after Montana left. He kept up his level with Steve Young. He was Mr. Dependable. There is no question that in my mind he should rate higher than Montana. Here are his records:
Record Jerry Rice 2nd Place
Receptions, Career 1,549 1,101 (Cris Carter)
Seasons w/ 50+ Receptions 17 13 (Andre Reed)
Seasons w/ 100+ Receptions 4-t 4 (Marvin Harrison)
All-Purpose Yards Gained, Career 23,546 23,330 (Brian Mitchell)
Yards from Scrimmage, Career 23,540 21,579 (Emmitt Smith)
Touchdown Receptions, Career 197 130 (Cris Carter)
Touchdowns, Career 208 175 (Emmitt Smith)
Avg. Touchdowns / Game, Season 1.83 1.44 (Randy Moss)
Receiving Yards, Career 22,895 14,934 (Tim Brown)
Receiving Yards, Season 1,848 1,781 (Isaac Bruce)
Seasons w/ 1000+ Yards Receiving 14 9 (Tim Brown),(Jimmy Smith)
Games w/ 100+ Yards Receiving 76 59 (Marvin Harrison)
Consecutive Games w/ Receptions 274 183 (Art Monk)
Rushing Yards by a Wide Receiver 645 500 (Andre Reed)
Consecutive Games w/ Receiving Touchdown 13 11 (Elroy Hirsch)
Games (Wide Receiver), Career 303 255 (Tim Brown, Irving Fryar)
Pro Bowls by a Wide Receiver 13 9 (Tim Brown)
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DarthIntegral
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I think about it this way. You're drafting a team and you get to take any player ever in their prime. Who comes off your board first: Montana or Rice?
Stats don't tell every story ...
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well that's not really a fair question... quarterback is a far more important position then Wide Receiver... I'd take any of the top 20 QB's of all time before even thinking about any player at any other position.
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I think that helps my point even further. The greatest player of the most crucial position? That's got to count for a little something extra in the intangibles department when ranking players.
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but Montana being the greatest QB of all time is always up for debate. It's not like he's a clear cut number one.
Jerry Rice is far and away the best Wide Receiver of the superbowl era.
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But this list, and myself, clearly rank Montana as the #1 QB of all time.
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oh, well if this one list and you say so, who am I to argue?
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Exactly. 
But my point is the list has Montana as the greatest quarterback, and then ranks Rice as an overall superior football player. I'm seeing that as a problem with the list. Not as solid proof that overall all people should consider Montana to be better than Rice. It's all subjective, but for my money, the greatest football player of all time is Jim Brown, and second to him is Joe Montana.
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RX_Sith
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Hey, either way at least they both played together (Montana and Rice) and will always be the top players from the same team. 
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Herschel Walker?! In his entire NFL career he rushed for over 1000 yds only twice. His biggest legacy is being the focal point of a terrible trade that help build Dallas into one of the premiere teams of the 90s. When you talk about domination Walker's name should never come up.
I simply meant from a pure talent and 'fearsome presence' perspective (I obviously looked at his college career). I'd never dream of saying that Walker was a better player in the NFL. Just comparable skill sets.
I'm also okay with the top players. I think I would have swapped Hutson (#6) with Taylor (#4), but really, what's the difference in the grand scheme of things. One thing I'll say for this list is they didn't allow themselves to be swayed by active or even just recent players. They paid attention to the past, and that's not a common occurrence on best ever lists.
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yeah, good to see guys like Hutson, Starr and Graham getting respect.
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