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DarthIntegral
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Around the Arena (Championship Game ... Winner: ApolloSmieGirl)
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Around the Horn is the game of competitive banter, played on ESPN by sports columnists from around the USA.
Around the Arena is the game of competitive banter, played on TheForce.net's "The Arena" by users from around the world.
Here's how the game works:
Four players will sign up at a time.
Once four players are signed up, the game host (DarthIntegral) will start the game.
The game host will start by posting a topic from recent news in the world of sports. The four players will then have a minimum of 24 hours to debate the topic. The host will then close discussion on this topic, and award points to each of the players, based on the quality of their argument, statistics used, and sources cited (with possible bonuses for "inside information"). A second topic will then be posted, and the four players will have a minimum of 24 hours to debate the topic. The host will then again close discussion on the topic, and award points again. The first two topics will always be about headline events.
The game host will then transition to "buy or sell" questions, where a statement is given about a current event in sports, and the players are asked to buy or sell (agree or disagree with) the statement. Points are scored in a similar fashion to the first round, but generally are scored in lower amounts. Each question here will again be posted for a minimum of 24 hours before it is closed off. After all three questions have been scored; the player with the lowest cumulative score will be cut, and will be given a 24-hour game ban.
The game host will then issue a question about a topic that is controversial in nature from the world of sports, or that is barely related to the world of sports. Players will again be given 24 hours to debate the topic, and scoring will be done as before, but again, points will be given out in even lower amounts. At the end of the scoring, the player with the lowest score will be cut, and will be given a 24-hour game ban.
Finally, the two remaining players will go head-to-head to debate three final topics. Each player will be given one post to state their side, and the host will declare which side must go first. The host will then declare a winner for each of the head-to-head debates. The player that wins at least two of them will win the game, and the other player will receive a 24-hour game ban. The winner of the game will move forward to a championship round.
And the game will be repeated three times, until four players have moved onto a championship round. Then, we play the game as normal, only the winner receives one week of VIP, title, and custom colors.
If you are eliminated from a round, you are still eligible to play again in the next round. No reserve spots will be held. Sign-ups will be available on a first-come, first-serve basis.
To sign up for the first round, simply add your name to the list:
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Trika_Kenobi
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Are you going to do the paper toss at the end of every game as well?
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RE: Around the Arena
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RX_Sith
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RE: Around the Arena
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I'm going to regret this.
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DarthIntegral
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Let's start off by going Around the Arena by talking about tomorrow's NFL Draft.
Jake Long has agreed to terms with the Miami Dolphins and will be the first pick in the NFL Draft. The first offensive lineman to go #1 overall since Orlando Pace.
Here are my questions to our panel of experts:
1) Is Jake Long worthy of being the number one pick?
2) Did the Dolphins make the best pick?
3) Was Jake Long the best player available, and if not who was?
4) How will Long's career go?
Let's go Around the Arena and get some answers ...
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RX_Sith
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1) Is Jake Long worthy of being the number one pick? This year he is the safest pick for the Dolphins. There is no "Franchise" Quarterback available, so they got someone to protect their quarterback, and that is very important as well.
2) Did the Dolphins make the best pick? Absolutely. Parcells and Co. get their Joe Thomas franchise cornerstone offensive tackle. Jumbo Elliott, another Michigan man, played OT for two Parcells Super Bowl squads in New York in '86 and '90. Long should be even better. Don't underestimate head coach Tony Sparano's influence in this decision. He's a former offensive line coach and he's been touting Long for months. The Dolphins thought Long was the safest pick in the draft.
3) Was Jake Long the best player available, and if not who was? No. Darren McFadden is the best player available, but because he is a running back, his career is much more limited than an Offensive Tackle. Running backs unfortunately have a short shelf life. They are constantly pounding for those rushing yards. McFadden will be great for whatever team ends up getting him, but like Reggie Bush, he will probably be used for kickoff and punt returns mainly to exploit his speed. If Oakland drafts him (and it's believed that Al Davis has orders to draft him), then they already have multiple running backs on the team (in Michael Bush, LaMont Jordan and Dominic Rhodes). And yes, they have more pressing needs than the running back position. But McFadden's a true game-breaker, and after two straight dreadful years of offensive futility, he's the pick at No. 4.
4) How will Long's career go? It should last more than 10 years since tackles generally last at least that long. The only other offensive lineman taken with the No. 1 choice since 1970 was Ohio State tackle Orlando Pace, who made the Pro Bowl seven consecutive times after joining the Rams in 1997. The Dolphins would be thrilled with a comparable achievement by Long. At left tackle, they're now set.
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4/25 3:09pm
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I love Jake Long, as he was one of the best college lineman of the last decade, but NFL.com's combine analysis talks about his less-than-stellar agility and lack of explosiveness off the snap. He's smart, but those are incredibly dangerous complaints to have about your franchise left tackle. There were concerns about whether or not Long would eventually play right tackle at the beginning of his senior season, and, while he improved his pass blocking (Kiper, Draft Chat Wrap 2/13 (repost of Insider article)), question marks as big as agility should have been enough to go elsewhere with the first selection, especially when they were other players on the same tier.
The Dolphins need to improve everywhere, so it's not a bad pick from a needs perspective. I just don't understand why they didn't go with Chris Long (who is "ideally suited to play defensive end in a 3-4 formation") or even Matt Ryan (his biggest weakness is the deep ball, and the Dolphins aren't built for such a style anyway). Chris Long fits perfectly into the system Parcells likes and has shown all of the same intangibles that make Jake Long a good candidate, and Ryan has the potential (far from a shoo-in, but the potential is there) to be a very good quarterback in the NFL.
RX_Sith is right about Darren McFadden. He undoubtedly has the most raw talent (think Marshall Faulk), but with Ronnie Brown as one of the good pieces of the Miami puzzle (true even with the injury, which he should recover from to do solidly next season), that would be a waste of a fine opportunity to pick up some other parts.
Long's career prospects boil down to one question: does he have the quickness and the agility to play left tackle long-term? If he does, he'll be a Jammal Brown. If not, he'll be more like Robert Gallery. For my part, I think he'll be a qualified success, with maybe even a few Pro Bowls, but that he'll have to move to the right side of the line before the end of his career.
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Was he worthy of the #1 pick? Probably not there were probably other players more worthy of the #1 pick such as Chris Long or McFadden. However he was probably the best pick for the Dolphins. They needed to start somewhere and anybody that knows Parcells driven teams knows he likes to go big. So it was either trade out and hope they get another big player or go with the big player they thought was available and in their minds it was Jake Long.
No he wasn't the best player available. That probably belonged to McFadden, but let's face it. He wasn't going to go #1 and I'm surprised he went as high as he did with the character issues surrounding him. Issues of character have been important n recent years to the NFL and even more so since Goodell took over 2 years ago (has it really only been two years since Goodell took over? Seems like more). That was only reinforced with the PacMan trade this weekend. Again, McFadden was the best physical player available, but nobody was going to take a chance on making him #1 overall.
How long will Jake Long last in the NFL? Who knows? If he can stay healthy and learn the NFL game quickly, he could have a fairly good career. If not then it's not going to be a long career at all and, well then there will be egg all over Parcells face and he hates that.
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Jake long was certainly not the best player in the draft
the Dolphins think they are doing the smart thing by taking the safe pick. Safe picks don't really change your team and the dolphins really need some change.
Darren Mcfadden was the best player available and could change a team like the dolphins, but again they outsmarted themselves and chose an offensive lineman.
His career will go as all offensive lineman's careers go, inconspicuous.
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Juliet316 posted: So it was either trade out and hope they get another big player or go with the big player they thought was available and in their minds it was Jake Long.
There were a ton of good d-line players available, with 4 guys going in the top ten. They could have traded to the bottom half of the top ten (the Jets would have had reason, as they wanted Vernon Gholston and the Dolphins were also considering him) and still landed a good player to help in the trenches. Heck they could have traded even lower that that and gotten Ryan Clady.
Jake Long could turn out to be a very good player, but his potential doesn't exceed that of the other top players, and it isn't as safe a pick as one might think. His potential for mediocrity on the left side of the line is too great to call it that. Questions about a guy's future position shouldn't exist for the number one selection.
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Tony Reali is hot.
That is all.
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ApolloSmileGirl posted: Tony Reali is hot.
QFT. 'Nuff said.
Oh, and what about my paper toss question? I demand an answer on this issue, Inty!
Good points being brought up all around. You all need to don ATH identities, though. Someone needs to be Jay Mariotti and get in fights with Woody Paige, who will then insult J.A. Adonde without really making a point. And over in the corner is Tim Cowlishaw, whom everyone ignores most times.
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DarthIntegral
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Time now to score the arguments ...
This Rounds:
RX_Sith: Very good information, hearkening back to Jumbo Elliot (+2), good information on McFadden and RBs in the draft in general (+2), and I enjoy you continuing the comparison to Orlando Pace (+1)
Onoto: Nice way to bring up the question marks (+2) and offer the alternatives (+2), and I love the comparisons to Brown and Gallery (+2)
Juliet316: Again bringing up the Parcells factor is good (+2) and offering McFadden as best talent, but not first pick (+2).
recehedelphar: I love the boldness of calling out the Dolphins for the safe pick and having the will to talk about McFadden as the only game changer (+4), but I don;t like the overall knock on O-Lineman .. (-1)
Onoto: I like your idea to trade down, but as always it takes two to tango ... we don't know if they had any trading partners. (+1)
Scoreboard:
This Round
Onoto: 7
RX_Sith: 5
Juliet316: 4
rechedelphar: 3
Overall:
Onoto: 7
RX_Sith: 5
Juliet316: 4
rechedelphar: 3
Around the Arena continues in my next post ...
(And I'll do a paper toss if and only if I get my PTI game figured out and approved by the other forum mods to be posted at the end of this game, so I can toss the paper and send it to PTI)
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DarthIntegral
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We now turn our eyes to the NBA Playoffs. A very compelling regular season (at least in the West) and several very dramatic and gripping game 1's captured our attention. Then, the rest of the series started to play out. And we now stand with seres at: 3-0 (Lakers-Nuggets), 3-1, 3-1, 3-1, 3-1, 3-1 (Cavs-Wizards, Hornets-Mavs, Jazz-Rockets, Magic-Raptors, Spurs-Suns), a surprising 2-1 (Celtics-Hawks) and an even more surprising 2-2 (Pistons-76ers).
So, I have these questions for our panel of experts:
1) Can any of the teams down 3-1, 2-1, or 3-0 actually win their series, or are all of them over?
2) Can the 76ers pull off the upset?
3) Is it too early to talk about second-round match-ups, and if not, what probably series are you most looking forward to?
Let's go Around the Arena once again ...
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