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General_Cartman_Lee Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 4/7/05 3:49pm Subject: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant? - Date Edited: 4/7/05 3:50pm (1 edits total) Edited By: General_Cartman_Lee
	Obi-Wan refers to Anakin and Jar-Jar as "pathetic life forms". What was GL trying to achieve here given he was also portraying Obi-Wan to be very wise at a young age? -----signature----- Words cannot describe how much I hate you guys. It's an Afghanistan goat, so it can't stay here, or else it'll choke on the sweet air of freedom. Sticks and stones may break my bones but I'm Jesus.
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Chancellor_Ewok Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 4/7/05 4:00pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	He was trying show that Obi-wan was once like Anakin. but that Obi-wan allowed himself to forget this fact. -----signature----- http://tlongpublications.wordpress.com/ http://tlongportfolio.wordpress.com/ http://thestarsailors.wordpress.com/
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DARTHMORDOR Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 4/7/05 4:12pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	the line from ESB "so was I if you remember" -----signature----- so lonestar you see that evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb! kneel before zod...er I mean valorum
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Azhrei Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 4/7/05 4:33pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	He wasn't being arrogant - see the smile on his face? He was just remarking that Qui-Gon was picking up another that other Jedi would not have looked at twice. It was a playful tease of Qui-Gon's compassion for other life-forms. -----signature----- Sub Luna Saltamus
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Virgilius Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 4/7/05 4:34pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	Ob-Wan matures throughout the movies. He's a little arrogant in TPM, he's wiser and more sophistocated in AOTC, and he's at his best after ROTS. He's one of my favourite heroes in the saga. Yoda did say that arrogance was common flaw in Jedi. I imagine Obi-Wan recognised this in himself. I think Anakin is, like Lucas says, more like Qui-Gon. I wouldn't say he was very arrogant. He was, after all, a "straight arrow" Jedi, unlike his master. -----signature----- We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
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JediPrettyBoy Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 4/11/05 7:25pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	Yoda: Much anger in him like his father. Obi: Was I any different when you taught me? Yoda: You are reckless. Obi: So was I, if you would remember. -----signature----- "They scream and they cry. Much as your doing now." -- Dr. J. Crane/Scarecrow
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Loco_for_Lucas Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 4/11/05 7:41pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	Yeah, I never saw that as Obi-wan condescending to alien species, but as mentioned before, remarking more on Qui-gon's habit of picking up more people for a mission. Seeing as how it started as a two-man operation and it grew to a motley crew of slaves, royalty, and exhiles, it was Obi-wan being sarcastic.
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SLAVE2 Registered: Apr '00	Date Posted: 4/12/05 3:28am Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	I must admit I really don't like that line from Obi-Wan, regardless of whether he meant it as a joke or not, its just not needed and makes him come across as a total jerk. -----signature----- Episode I: 10/10 Amazing! \| Episode II: 10/10 Outstanding! Episode III: 10/10 Unbelievable! \| Episode IV: 10/10 Incredible! Episode V: 10/10 Brilliant! \| Episode VI: 10/10 Fantastic!
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BizAOK Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 4/12/05 8:56pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant? - Date Edited: 4/12/05 8:56pm (1 edits total) Edited By: BizAOK
	I love that line. It's as if he's saying, "You gotta be kidding me. Our job is to try and save the planet of Naboo, and you're building Noah's Ark...." The line ties in well with: "You were right about one thing, Master. The negotations were short." (when seeing trade federation invasion army.) He has learned to find the humor in situations, no matter how grim. "Oh, not good." (Attack of the Clones, versus Jango Fett.) We tend to think of him as being direct, but he's usually quite tactful. In conversations he makes his points without causing big scenes. (Imagine if he had said to Qui-Gon when Jinn went to get Anakin, "Master, we need to leave now! You're not tending to the task at hand!") It's just that his arguments are generally of a humorous nature so the listener cannot help but address his concerns. To Anakin in Attack of the Clones: "I was beginning to wonder if you got my message...." "I retransmitted it just as you requested, Master. Then we decided to come and rescue you." (Anakin) Obi-Wan, handcuffed: "Good job." His wit makes you realize that he has a valid point. It's brilliant on his part. You'll notice that he always gets a reaction of some sort.
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Ben_Watson Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 4/18/05 7:32am Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	Well in alot of books, Obi-wan is always think that Anakin is so much more like Qui-gon than Anakin is like Obi-wan. I just thought that he was tired of Qui-gon picking up people for no reason at all, (Except for Anakin) I mean look at Jar-Jar he had no reason to have ever been brought along with them. -----signature----- It's never about making what the people like. It's about making what the people love. - Joss Whedon "Some people are just more comfortable in Hell..." Tony Almeida
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Chaotic_Serenity Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 4/18/05 8:51am Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	If it wasn't for Jar Jar, they would never have made it to Gungan city or found a transport to Naboo. Considering that Jar Jar Binks basically forfeited his life to get them what they needed (hesa banished-ed, remember?), I would have thought it awfully low of the Jedi not to save him. Obi Wan is a product of the society that he serves, as well as his youth. Young people are arrogant until they learn better. Simple as that. Additionally, arrogance amidst the Jedi is a problem that even Yoda's willing to recognize. Their status as "elite" citizens of the Republic has started to affect how they run the Order. Obi Wan isn't overtly arrogant, IMO, but it is one of his early personality flaws. We well how large his serving of humble pie will be in ROTS given the immense change we see in ANH. -----signature----- Part of the Darth Vader Fanclub. Because good is dumb. The ability to bash a movie does not make one intelligent. Sith for '08: Why vote for a less oppressive regime?
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Annadalla Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 4/21/05 12:00pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	Obi-Wan is one of my fave characters too! This shows he was like Anakin at one moment, but followed the force and had faith in it...and thus shed that arrogance..sadly Anakin does not follow suit. -----signature----- Proud Lover of Hayden Christensen! ~Shadows In The Light~ link: http://boards.theforce.net/Before_the_Saga/b10475/19403578/?1 "Hello There." ~Obi-Wan, ROTS
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Darth Kruel Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 4/22/05 12:52am Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	For some reason, I liked Obi-1 in TPM better than in AOTC. I think it had something to do with his youthfulness as well as his personal growth. Obi-1 sees some things as trivial, such as Jar-Jar Binks. -----signature----- I only pose as a Sith to bring them down from within. The Jedi are my brotherhood, my family, and the Living Force is my salvation.
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WAF_Hellblazer Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 4/22/05 6:47am Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	Anakin Skywalker was arrogant because he got the trait from his master. The same goes foe Obi-Wan and then Qui-Gon got it from the most evil jedi, Dooku. Oh and Anakin and Qui-Gon aren't the most alike. Dooku and Anakin are. -----signature----- I am Darth Iero You notice that the 2 characters to survive the entire Saga Are: None Other Than: ........................................................... C-3PO and R2-D2
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PappiePac Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 4/22/05 11:19am Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	LOSERS, I MADE A SONG ABOUT YOU AND IT GOES A LITTLE SOMETHIN' LIKE THIS (IN TUNE OF STAR WARS THEME): STAR WARS D-D-D-DORRRRRRRRRRKS D-D-D-DORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKS LIVE IN THEIR MOM'S BASEMENT THEY EAT A LOT AND TALK ON FORUMS BUUUT WHERE WILL THEY BE AFTER THE LAST MOOOOOOOOOOVIE ...IN A SEWER EATING POOP REPEATING JAR-JAR BINKS LINES. U GUYS THAT HAVE OVER 1000 POST SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER GETTING A LIFE. -----signature----- Every mornin', thanks to his Acid Reflux and such, Emperor Palpatine farts, pukes, and poops to begin his day of galactic conquest.
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grievious Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 4/22/05 12:56pm Subject: RE: Why was Obi-Wan so arrogant?
	I didn't find him arrogant -----signature----- I rather waste my self in 20 years having fun doing idiotic things, then sitting at home being bored, just to get 100 years old and die with no broken bones and a smooth skin
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