Author Topic: Betrayal (Obi/Qui angst - very AU) Updated 11/2/09
Jane Jinn  7128 posts
Registered: Jan '00
6366_Kit Fisto
Date Posted: 4/5/03 12:24pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/4
Good heavens! I had to fight my way through an entire horde of replies to find this last story post. Looks like you've got readers now. wink

Atel really sounds like she's caught between a rock and a hard place here. Has Obi-Wan been too much of a good example for her when it comes to missions; never breaking the Code, always following the Council's orders, no matter what he felt about them? She recognizes that he didn't always agree, but she sees that he always went along. Now, suddenly, he's doing everything wrong and she can't understand why. She doesn't know "Master Jinn", she only knows "Jinn the Rogue". I can really see her dilemma; it's either her neck or Obi-Wan's, when it comes down to it.

I don't think Atel can understand the deep friendship that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan have, though. She seems to have been raised in a climate of fear and "do unto others before they do unto you." I don't think her relationship to Obi-Wan is as close as Obi-Wan's was to Qui-Gon -- I don't see how it can be, in this atmosphere. But I'm sure she cares for him as much as she's capable of.

I can't believe that the Standards are being revised so often. Well, I can -- I just don't want to. No doubt they're becoming more and more specific and confining each time, like a vice that's constantly being tightened. Still, if they keep going, there won't be any Jedi left!

I'm starting to worry about Obi-Wan, though. He says that it will be all right and that he trusts Atel's judgement. But like I said before, she cannot empathize with them, and I greatly fear that she will come to the conclusion that she has to turn Obi-Wan.

It would almost be good if Obi-Wan were dismissed, because then he'd be free to join up with Qui-Gon. With Sidious having his eye on Obi-Wan, though, it'd be more likely to be the "or worse" part of what Atel says could happen to him.

I also think that posting on Mondays and Thursdays is a good idea. I was just about to suggest something similar myself.

 

-----signature-----
Mostly retired now
Just making the occasional guest appearance
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Dyanne_Kindred 
Registered: Nov '02
6455_Ewan the Prankster
Date Posted: 4/5/03 8:24pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/4
Woot! Now thats the Obi we all know and love. Always looking out for others.

I haven't posted much but I do read the updates almost every night. Its a joy to read!

I can't wait to see what the badguys have planned.

:: Reads up on the latest bounty hunter scouting report. ::

 

-----signature-----
Kindred - Jedi Thief
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
JediNemesis  4686 posts
Registered: Mar '03
50892_NaNo 7
Date Posted: 4/6/03 8:25am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/4
Twice weekly sounds fine.

Technical (albeit irrelevant) question here - how exactly do you paste Word documents into a post? ?:| I can't for the life of me figure out how to do it.

Temporarily subdued the Bantha of Real Life -

*muffled voice, mouth full of fur* I spoke too soon. sad

Back whenever.

Nemesis wink

 

-----signature-----
BeTS Best Author '08
*NEW* Bad Dreams - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29893091
Eleven Summers - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29657584
Into The Shining Day - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29224914
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
dianethx  14887 posts
Registered: Mar '02
Date Posted: 4/6/03 3:26pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/4
Hi again JaneJinn - Yes, can you believe it? What a lot of replies - I'm dancing with joy!!!

Atel is definitely caught between a rock and a hard place! Damned by the rules if she does not turn Obi-Wan in and damned by her own guilt if she does. It's quite a dilema for her and one she is not used to. I took the "following the rules" theme from AOTC, of course- that speech that Obi-Wan gave Anakin was really chilling to me. So now, to Atel, Obi-Wan is changing the rules and she doesn't like it one bit.
To tell you the truth I loved writing the "No. Not Master Jinn." She looked at him, hard frown deepening, voice steely and quick. "No, not to me and definitely not to you. Master Jinn was ten years ago. This man is Jinn who is under investigation, Jinn who is a potential enemy, Jinn who may be a rogue." I can just hear her voice, annoyed and confused and rough with concern all at the same time.

Yes, I think that Obi-Wan cares more for her than she for him but only because of the way the Temple has changed. It does not foster close relationships.

The revisions come regularly and sometimes they sneak things in without anyone noticing...just like real life. You'll hear more about the revisions in the post after next.

You should worry about Obi-Wan. He has a lot on his plate and the pile is going to get much deeper before it gets better.

I agree that Obi-Wan would be much better off dismissed from the Jedi. But I think Sidious and company like playing with him too much to let him go...



And Jane I want to thank you again for the nomination to the winter 2002 awards. I was so honored that I could just burst. All of the stories listed in the nominations for each catagory are really good. Everyone should check them out. It might lead you to stories that you have missed. I know I've missed more than a few and will be reading them.

Thanks Jane.

 

-----signature-----
Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09
jedidas3's Master
Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
dianethx  14887 posts
Registered: Mar '02
Date Posted: 4/6/03 3:34pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/4
Dyanne_Kindred Hello again. Glad to hear that you are still with us. A short heads up is fine!

Oh a joy to read - Thanks!!!

Yes, the bad guys will be showing up in a bit. No, I have not forgotten them but they've been quite busy....LOL

Be sure to tune in on Mondays and Thursdays and the other days as well. My readers have a lot to say and really keep me on my toes!!


JediNemesis - I don't post word documents here but rather I copy and paste and then laboriously go through the whole thing to put in the mark-up codes (which can be a royal pain when there are lots of thoughts floating around. You probably haven't noticed but I tend to break up the thoughts to give you an idea of the physical changes going on while the thoughts or telepathy are bouncing back and forth)

I'm telling you - we need to find a market for bantha fur. Stuffing, blankets, hair-pieces????

Post on Monday....

 

-----signature-----
Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09
jedidas3's Master
Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
dianethx  14887 posts
Registered: Mar '02
Date Posted: 4/6/03 6:09pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/4
Okay, so I lied. I'm going to post tonight because I have to leave very early in the morning and won't be back til late tomorrow. So you all have reaped the rewards of my long day...LOL.

Here's the beginning of the investigation. When last we saw our intrepid Jedi, they had just had an argument and Obi-Wan has left Atel to meditate as he starts perusing the bars....

-------------------------

The spaceport was a small town, a village really. There was one road straight through the center with a series of side streets leading off towards the outlying farms. There was little traffic around the port; in the high season of summer, it would be bustling but now the harvests were in and the pleasure-seekers of Naboo's mountain and lake districts had gone home.

The hostelry was cheap and cramped, a small place tilting precariously towards the street. It was too near the spaceport for quiet and the walls were paperthin. But it was clean and friendly to the Jedi, an increasingly important point, and Obi-Wan had no complaints. Atel parked the speeder and went inside while he set off on foot towards the sound of nightly amusements.

Kenobi knew that tomorrow he would visit the officials of the community but, tonight, cantinas were his goal. Rumors, stories and hostility towards Qui-Gon Jinn might just show up in those seedy establishments. Resentment towards a successful farmer, even one as generous as his former Master, could lead to valuable information gleaned nowhere else. He picked a likely place, the Screaming Mynock. It was hard to tell at night, even with the twinned light of the Naboo moons peering over his shoulder, but the tavern did seem a bit rundown - perfect for his first foray.

The noise assaulted his senses as soon as he entered the place. For a moment, he seemed frozen in the light at the entrance, an obvious ploy to blind newcomers to the darkened space while letting the denizens within look them over. He moved down the steps towards the bar counter. The place quieted a bit and more than one being glanced in his direction. As he sat down, snatches of conversation could be heard.

"Who's that? .... dressed like a beggar .... a Jedi here? .... why .... do the Bendu know he's .... two-to-one odds on him .... Windu won't like .... I'm leaving now .... what's a Jedi Knight doing .... training centers .... does Jinn .... Jedi .... death .... wearing a lightsaber .... Jedi ....watch .... mind tricks .... say nothing."

The bartender, an overweight, rather grubby human of some stature, growled at him, "What's your pleasure, Jedi?" and then began to chuckle as if making a very obvious crude joke.

Obi-Wan looked at him directly, and said distinctly, "Blue Corellian and information."

The man sniffed at this. "Sure you can handle it? Corellian ale packs a mean wallop." At Kenobi's continued stare, he just shrugged, poured glowing blue liquid into a semi-cleaned glass and shoved it in the Jedi's direction.

"Two credits for the drink. Information may be free or cost a great deal, depending."

"I'm looking for someone. Been at the port a long time?" Kenobi placed the credits down on the counter and began to sip his ale, all the while glancing around the room. The crowd of humans and aliens seemed to quiet slightly while trying to avoid the Jedi's attention. It fooled no one.

"Yeah, so what?"

"Notice anyone lately who has had a very good run of luck? Maybe too good. Someone who may have become rich a little too quickly?"

Glancing towards the rear of the cantina where noises of sabaac play indicated that gambling might just be taking place, the man shrugged. "Sometimes, people get lucky. 'Course, then they take one extra spin of the randomizer and lose everything. Gambling is a matter of luck and a bit of skill. What's it to you, Jedi or is wagering illegal in the Republic these days?"

"Not as far as I know. No, I'm more interested in someone who may have moved here over the past ten years or so and gotten lucky with business ventures. Picking just the right time to buy or sell and making a huge profit. That type of luck."

"Can you be more specific? That describes a lot of someones." The human rubbed his neck as though thinking, surreptitiously nodding to a tall figure, lurking in the shadows near the rear entrance, just out of Kenobi's sight.

"Some beings are pretty adept at making deals, using their skills as negotiators to get others to agree to things that they might not ordinarily do. Or have great timing to take advantage of situations that come up quickly. Maybe even using mind tricks or wizardry to get their way. Anyone complained about that recently? "

"No, Jedi. Why don't you stop dancing around and get to the point? I have other customers."

"That farmer towards the west of town, Qui-Gon Jinn, seems to have made quite a name for himself. Owns a number of businesses and yet he started with nothing. He's quite lucky."

The man abruptly frowned, eyes narrowing, and leaned forward, staring at Kenobi. The tavern quieted suddenly. "Look, Jedi snoop. Here's a bit of free information. Leave Jinn and his friends alone."

"Really?"

"Yeah, really. He's done more for this town and this world than any dozen Jedi conjurers. Was there during the Blockade, been helping out ever since. Didn't see any of your kind helping us out, then or now. You Jedi were too busy fetching and carrying for the rich and famous to pay any attention to a poor world in trouble. So, leave him alone. Leave them alone and go bother someone else." The bartender straightened up and glared at Obi-Wan. "I'm sure there's a war somewhere that you can go play in. So go play....elsewhere." With that, he turned his back on the Jedi and walked away.

The whispers and glances told Obi-Wan that he would get no help here. He noted, too, that the tall shadow was gone, probably to spread word that a Jedi was investigating Jinn. Shrugging, he left his drink at the counter and strode out of the cantina. Still, the information had been more helpful than the barkeeper had intended. It confirmed the datapad information; Master Jinn had help, allies. The man had lumped them together, indicating that either there were more than a couple of force-sensitives in the area or that his friends were willing to help Qui-Gon deal with any Jedi investigation. But, more importantly, Obi-Wan realized that, if he had to take his Master back to Coruscant, it might be quite difficult to do so, more so than from the expected resistance of a single Jedi. That uncomfortable and unwelcome thought stayed with him as he began to hunt for the next likely spot to ask questions.

--------------------------------------------

Over the next few hours, Obi-Wan had widened his search to five additional taverns ranging in status from elegant to downright dangerous, three restaurants and a couple of clubs. In each, he had been treated politely but firmly. Told in no uncertain terms to leave Jinn alone by all and sundry, Kenobi was growing oddly indignant by absurdity of it all. It was just so blasted ironic because he did want to leave Jinn alone. But he couldn't, not yet.

He had gleaned quite a bit of information. It was definite that there were other force-sensitives in the area, more than just at the Jinn residence; certain whispers and veiled threats confirmed his earlier suspicions. It was clear that Qui-Gon was quite generous with his time, his abilities and his money in aiding the less fortunate. That came as no surprise; Obi-Wan had always known his Master to help when he could, when the Jedi had been allowed to help.

It also appeared that the rumors of the investigation had run like wildfire through the community. By the time he had entered the last establishment, he didn't even have to say anything. The owner had gone to him immediately and began berating him before telling him to get out. Still, he was satisfied with the evening's work. Rumors could be very helpful. They would alert the more shady beings that Obi-Wan was here gathering information; some of those individuals might want to meet in less conspicuous surroundings. Kenobi would likely be approached fairly soon, probably tomorrow or the day after.

And now, by the Screaming Mynock, he waited for his tall shadow to appear. It didn't take long.

"Hello, Anakin."

The young man bowed his head slightly, a frown settling on his troubled face. Voice clipped and anxious, he acknowledged that the chase was over. "Kenobi. Been waiting long?"

"No. Well, have you alerted the whole town or should I let you get a little further ahead?" Obi-Wan let a wry smile loose for just a moment before the stoic Jedi visage returned.

Anakin tired of the game quickly. "Why are you asking questions about Master Qui-Gon? I thought you were his friend."

"I am. Believe me, Anakin, I am."

"But you are asking about his powers, about his money and how he got it. It sounds more like he is being accused of crimes against the Republic, or maybe against the Jedi and their little kingdom. Is that what a friend does?"

"I am a Jedi, required by the Council to investigate certain allegations...."

Skywalker interrupted him, his voice fierce and low. "Trumped up charges. Your blasted Council cannot control him so they are going to shut him up." He moved forward, growling. "You're going to take him back with you, aren't you? Imprison him because he is no longer one of yours."

"I hope not." Sadness, regret seeped into those three words and Obi-Wan was suddenly very tired. He had meant to keep Anakin talking for duty's sake but now he just wanted to get away, needing to meditate desperately, to see his way clear of this dilemma.

"Then don't. Please, just leave him alone. Please." The young man sounded urgent, almost pleading.

"I wish I could." The sound of Obi-Wan's regret grew deeper. He sighed and moved close to the young apprentice, murmuring quietly, rapidly. "But, maybe, if you could help me, Anakin. Help me to prove that he is innocent, that he had done nothing wrong... I would soon be on my way and Qui-Gon could be left in peace. It's what we both want, for Qui-Gon to be happy and well. Help me make that a reality."

Anakin instantly drew back from him, his eyes wide and staring, astonished, looking at Obi-Wan as if he were a ravening nexu or venomous adder. Mouth grimacing, he hissed back. "Stay away from me, Jedi. You are unbelievable." His voice rose in fury. "You expect me to betray my Master!! You obscene fraud." He looked as if he was going to throttle the Jedi, then he abruptly turned and stalked away, muttering.

"No, Anakin, that's not what I...." Obi-Wan called after him, sorrow thickening his throat. "...meant."

He slumped back against the wall, shaking his head, muttering. "Kenobi, you are an idiot. A muck-brained inept idiot." Pulling himself up and slowly walking back towards his meager lodgings, he thought again of this last conversation. He had been a negotiator and Republic representative for ten years now, more if the Padawan experiences were tallied in. When, in the last few minutes, had he completely lost all sense of reason, of tact? He was a complete fool. Even when people were trying to blast him out of existence, he had kept a clear head, could parley his way out of war and disputes of all kinds. Except this. This one had him stumped. Now, Anakin wrongly thought that betrayal was his goal and he would certainly tell Qui-Gon. Damn. His old Master would think.... damn.

 

-----signature-----
Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09
jedidas3's Master
Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Dyanne_Kindred 
Registered: Nov '02
6455_Ewan the Prankster
Date Posted: 4/6/03 7:09pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
Leave it to Anakin to get the wrong idea. *shakes head*

Obi is on the edge... duty or loyalty. Not wanting to hurt either and finding himself in deeper water with both.

I love this story. Don't mind if I make a copy?

 

-----signature-----
Kindred - Jedi Thief
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Jane Jinn  7128 posts
Registered: Jan '00
6366_Kit Fisto
Date Posted: 4/7/03 1:52am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
When I write, I just write in the mark-up codes as I go, then simply copy and paste the whole thing.

I liked the contrast that was shown between Qui-Gon Jinn and the Jedi. Qui-Gon is beloved, is famous for helping out and aiding the less fortunate, has lots of friends and allies, and everybody is anxious to stick up for him. But the Jedi are called snoops and conjurors, everybody is wary of them, and they accuse the Jedi of only helping the rich and famous. I liked the phrase "the Jedi and their little kingdom."

Poor Obi-Wan. He really does want to prove Qui-Gon innocent. But of course Anakin wouldn't see that -- he only sees that Obi-Wan wants him to betray his master. Oh, dear, he really is in a dilemma.

There are many Force-sensitives here on Naboo, congregated around Qui-Gon's farm? Hmmm.

You're welcome about the nominations, and I hope desperately that you win! Everybody vote for Diane! happy VCan I ask if you've submitted Draigon's Lair to the Archive, or if you're planning to?

I've also started reading the nominations and looking at some stories that I had overlooked before -- in some categories, it's making it harder for me to choose between two or even three worthy candidates, but in other categories, it's making it possible for me to vote in the first place, because I had not known any of the competitors.

 

-----signature-----
Mostly retired now
Just making the occasional guest appearance
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
dianethx  14887 posts
Registered: Mar '02
Date Posted: 4/7/03 4:45am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
Dyanne_Kindred - Anakin is a brash young man with some intense emotional issues. Since he sees Kenobi as the "enemy", of course he would get the wrong idea! But, from his POV, it may not be the wrong idea. After all, Kenobi was just at Jinn's farm, eating his food, swapping information in a semi-friendly atmosphere and then right after that, asking all kinds of questions that a friend would not be asking.

Obi-Wan is being pulled apart by this whole thing. Poor guy.

Yes, sure you can make a copy. I already have it on a couple of sites - my own of course, plus a couple of friends plus I post it first to the QGJDL. If you want to wait til it's done, I can send you the Word file...

 

-----signature-----
Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09
jedidas3's Master
Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
dianethx  14887 posts
Registered: Mar '02
Date Posted: 4/7/03 5:01am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
Hi JaneJinn. I don't use markup codes first because I write it and immediately post it to the GQJDL and she prefers it in Word. I can understand typing it with the markup codes immedded in it though.

I'm glad you saw the contrast between Qui-Gon and the Jedi that the local people see. I wanted to put some mistrust in the story - not only to contrast the opposing "forces" but to give some hint as to why the Jedi (in the canon universe) may have fallen. The Jedi could not have fallen just through Palpatine but it must have been done with the consent/active participation of the population in general. It's just a hint, though....

Yes, Obi-Wan is certainly in a dilema - damned either way...and feeling terrible about it.

Yes, there are force-sensitives in the area...the datapad that Obi-wan has from the Jedi Council says so...<snicker>....

As for the nominations, I've already started reading some of the ones I haven't read. There are really excellent stories on the boards!!!! As for voting for me, that's very sweet of you Jane. But the competition is quite stiff and I want everyone to vote for the ones that you think are the best -regardless of who you are reading now.

As for submitting Draigon's Lair to the Archives, I did and they didn't like it - said the pacing wasn't right. I have to agree that the pacing is slow to begin with (that was deliberate) but it does speed up towards the end (as it should). I guess it's really a matter of style and taste. They're the judges. Well, I liked it and I wouldn't change any of it anyway so... but thanks for asking.
I had planned on submitting this fic to the Archives when it's done as well. We shall see if they like it or not....I'm not going in with any expectations!!

 

-----signature-----
Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09
jedidas3's Master
Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
JediNemesis  4686 posts
Registered: Mar '03
50892_NaNo 7
Date Posted: 4/7/03 7:50am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. God, I feel so sorry for Obi-Wan. Actually I feel pretty sorry for Anakin too. After all, from his POV, Obi's actions are pretty damn suspicious.

See you on Thursday ...

Nemesis wink

 

-----signature-----
BeTS Best Author '08
*NEW* Bad Dreams - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29893091
Eleven Summers - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29657584
Into The Shining Day - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29224914
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Shaindl  3140 posts
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 4/7/03 8:37am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
Hi Diane,

Just catching up on my weekend reading - and I'm so glad that yours is one of the pleasures I have to start my week out.

I'm going to skip the usual "poor Obi", and go straight to "poor everyone" except, of course, for the council and the Senate. Whoever said damned if you do and damned if you don't is right on the money. And I understand Anakin here - he's trying to protect a man that he loves and respects.

I agree with you and everyone else that regular posting is far better than suddenly dropping to monthly posting. I would go through terrible withdrawal symptoms... grin

Can't wait for Thursday!

Shaindl

 

-----signature-----
Halfway Moment - Qui, Obi, Anakin AU - http://boards.theforce.net/The_Saga/b10476/20110461/?0 - UPDATED JULY 3!
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
Healer_Leona  36813 posts
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered: Jul '00
8059_Qui-Gon Jinn
Date Posted: 4/7/03 9:46am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
Chap 7-- Those first couple of paragraphs had some absolutely stellar descriptions in there!! Atel's face was its own landscape, // her stress-cramped hands were stark with ivory outrage

She growled. "Permission to speak frankly, Master?" -- Can we say a big UH, OH!! I could only shake my head sadly at Atel as I read her outrage of what she considered misconduct on her Master's part. I know because it's all she knows that she believes the Jedi incapable of wrongdoing... still.. all she cites is rules and regulations. Where is the Force in all her thoughts??? Isn't that what makes a Jedi a Jedi?? Why didn't Obi-Wan instruct her to use the Force on reading the situation. Wouldn't that have given some indication of Qui's nature at the very least???

The galaxy has never been in more need of an alternate Jedi Order as at this very moment. When those who believe they're doing the good are control by evil... and I find it scary that Obi-Wan should even still be in the Order... but then I did always see him more as following the rules... no matter how much against the will of the Force they may be.

Now, don't go slamming me as an Obi-basher.. I'm not that by any means. I just always saw Qui-Gon as more what the spirit of Jedi meant for his following the 'will of the Force' then a rule book. If all it takes is to follow what you're told to do, what happens when the one giving orders is the antithesis of what the Order was founded for?

Chap.8-- friendly to the Jedi, an increasingly important point,-- another line that proves my point about how bad the Order has fallen. I was quite interested at how the townfolk regarded Qui-Gon and the difference at the way they saw the Jedi. "I'm sure there's a war somewhere that you can go play in. So go play ....elsewhere." --telling lines there!!

I'm glad you've opted to post twice weekly as opposed to once a month... granted I don't always get here daily but a month would be far too long!! grin grin

 

-----signature-----
Feel so good, but I'm old
2000 years of chasing's taking it's toll
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
forever_jedi  9318 posts
Registered: Jun '02
39903_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 4/7/03 2:39pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
So everyone around likes Qui-Gon and all that he is doing. Qui-Gon seems to be completely on the light side of the Force and is doing everything that is right. Yes, this seems to be such a contrast! The official jedi order, whose duty is to serve and protect, is mistrusted and shunned by the common people, and the "rogue" Jedi seem to be loved and respected. The galaxy is twisted indeed.

But, this now raises a question in my mind. If truly, the official order has gone so bad and dark, and Qui-Gon, Mace and other senior people realized this and decided to do something about it, why then didn't Qui-Gon feel any obligation towards Obi-Wan in the last ten years? We've learnt that everyone blamed Obi-Wan for not contacting Qui-Gon (including Obi and Qui). How come Qui-Gon didn't try to get word to Obi-Wan that something was terribly wrong in the order and that he should watch out? Granted he couldn't do it right after he was thrown out. But later on? When he had established himself as a rich merchant? Shouldn't Qui-Gon have contacted Obi-Wan on one of his never-ending missions? After all, this was apparently the "son of his soul." How could he have justified it saying that it was better for Obi-Wan to remain there? Interesting that Obi-Wan never felt hurt or raised the issue that Qui-Gon hadn't ever contacted him. Will this ever come up?

And now, he blames himself for Anakin's impetuous nature - he seems to be particularly comfortable at absorbing all the guilt in the world. In this last scene, I think you have captured the canon Anakin perfectly, Diane. Always ready to defend those he loves, but impetuous, rash, rushing into situations without any deep thought or considerations.

 

-----signature-----
“Kenobi was luminous, a transparent being, a window onto a sunlit meadow of the Force.” RotS, Matt Stover.
"The Force will be with you, always."
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History
LuvEwan  4689 posts
Registered: Mar '02
48923_Obi-Wan Kenobi (719097)
Date Posted: 4/7/03 3:40pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 4/6
Sorry, diane. Just don't have it in me today for a long reply. But I'm sure you can manage, you have a few others. wink

Lovely chapter, if you pluck Ani from it. devil And somehow, I liked to picture Obi in a bar or two..kinda reminds me of his character in the movies..and Ewan in real life! laugh

Again, I really love this story. One of the most original I've read, I can't wait for more.

grin

 

-----signature-----
What Light Breaks-AU Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon Anakin angst (collaboration with Spiritweaver) http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/29979222/p1/?0
You want an Obi-Wan epic? We've got it right here. cowboy
Post Reply | Quote Reply | Active Topic Notification | Private Message | Post History