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Jane Jinn Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 3/29/03 6:08am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 3/28
	Ack, two busy days, and I miss two posts! Well, let me try to get in a reply before something else drags me away from the computer. I liked the description of Qui-Gon as comfortable, content, at ease with the universe. Life away from the 'new and improved' Jedi seems to have done him good. I couldn't help but compare him to Obi-Wan, who seems so tense and unhappy. Atel has never heard him seem so unsure of himself. What a contrast. I like the distant echoes of the Temple here on the estate, though; the rings and bars hanging from the high ceiling of the outbuilding, which would have been used for training exercises in the Temple, and the young man's hairstyle being reminiscent of a padawan haircut. Very interesting! I also liked the way he went from a 'quite good-looking' young man to a "brash idiot" in Atel's opinion as soon as he started in on the 'high and mighty Jedi'. And now we've got two people here facing off against each other, each determined to protect someone close to them. I can see the sparks flying already. So, Anakin thinks the Jedi are a threat, but Le'orath thinks Kenobi has just been ignoring Qui-Gon all these years? Hmm. Loved the sarcastic "Yes, o wise master." And the way she quietly threatened Obi-Wan, and he had to shake circulation back into his hand after she'd let go of it. Oooh, she sounds fiery! A worthy match for Qui-Gon, too, I think. Loved the way Qui-Gon teased his son, too; I always thought he'd be good with kids. Saddening to hear that Obi-Wan had had to help out in the creche because most of the staff had been dismissed. Good way of sneaking that detail in there. But, oh dear, what's this? The boy is not just Qui-Gon's son, but also a Force-sensitive child who is convinced that Obi-Wan is going to take Qui-Gon away? "Out of the mouths of babes ..." Here's seconding LuvEwan's thoughts about Le'onath as a real woman. Good job! And let me agree that the scene in Dex's Diner was where Obi-Wan looked the best in AOTC, unless it was that part on Kamino where he said "That's why I'm here." -----signature----- Mostly retired now Just making the occasional guest appearance
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Healer_Leona Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 3/29/03 8:20am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 3/28
	Oohhh... a reason to cross over to "the saga" board!! A surviving Qui-Gon... yay!! The Jedi Temple downsizing.... what a horrendous thought, though I suppose no more so then what happened with Palpatine just out and out destroying them. Sidious and Maul were extremely gruesome.. shudders the scene of Obi-Wan in front of the Council (?), noting on how they're dressed is depressing and irritating that more Jedi have realized the same thought "Perhaps because they want us to fail" I do wonder, what's become of those that were the Jedi Council during Qui-Gon's time... certainly what's become of Yoda?? The description of the Temple, falling into disrepair is disheartening.. though I very much enjoyed Obi-Wan's relating his meeting his master the first time!! Now I don't think Atel deserved her Master's wrath for pointing out why she thought he hated his former Master... and calling him a rogue is only what she's heard over the years... I wondered what he may find in the gardens... no gardens The question is - why are they lying about it?" -- I agree the why would shine a big light on all the happenings of late. Hmmm, I suppose it's only natural that Atel believes her Master's idea of Qui-Gon is incorrect, I'm as curious as seeing her meet the man as Obi-Wan.. I do wonder exactly what Qui-Gon is doing to bring the wrath of ... can't say the Jedi for that is what they no longer are... down on him. Like Jane, I worry over Atel's thoughts that she needs to be strong is her master cannot be.... The reunion of Qui and Obi was fabulous!!!! And I was as shocked as Obi with the family... though it would be like Qui-Gon to have one. Hmmm... I suppose I'm not entirely surprised that Anakin is at the farm... though I'm rather liking him for once. Aanyone who'd be so protective of Qui-Gon is ok in my books!! Can we say wow at Mistress Jinn's bluntness with Obi-Wan!!! And Ben... love that he named his son Ben, having vision of Obi-Wan taking him away??? Oh dear... This is a fantastic thread Diane and I look forward to more... plus I've got to go look for But.. A bit late but, post often, post soon... -----signature----- Feel so good, but I'm old 2000 years of chasing's taking it's toll
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/29/03 8:35am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 3/28
	LuvEwan - Yes, I got to see Liam. He was superb in the role of John Proctor. I really don't like the play the Crucible and I've seen quite a few plays and musicals on Broadway but he did out-and-out the best acting job I have ever seen and I'm not just saying that because he was Liam. The play was done brilliantly but I was in complete awe of his skill. Obviously, his skill doesn't translate nearly as well onto film as it was on stage. If you ever get the chance to see him in person, do it!!! And Ewan was gorgeous in a couple of scenes. I do prefer him with dark hair aka Christian, though. It brings out the blue in his eyes. He was superb in Moulin Rouge. Actually Hayden looks good in black hair as well (from Life as a House) and I loved what he did in that movie. Yes, we all have our tastes and they certainly vary...Jack Nicholson....hummm. No, I'm not going to say you're insane. He's just not my cup of tea. Good actor, though. And, now onto other things... To me, Qui-Gon needed a woman capable to standing up to him and yet one that could love him without reservation. I, too, am tired of the rail-thin women described in the fics but I wanted Le'orath to be more realistic. She is fiercely protective of her family as is Anakin. I did write her with red hair and green eyes because I always wanted to be that way...LOL. As for Ben, he is cute..most 4 year olds are. But he has a very strong Force presence and a gift that daddy Qui-Gon is anxious to protect. You'll see... I didn't want you to think, however, that Ben will be the focus. He will not. He will show up from time to time as the plot demands... Yes, take Qui-Gon away....hummmm. Is Ben right? You'll just have to wait and see.... Next post will be up on Monday. Thanks for all your feedback. It's been great. -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/30/03 4:34am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 3/28
	JaneJinn -Sorry I didn't get back to you as quickly as I would have liked. Real life and all... Qui-Gon is comfortable with his new life. He is well-loved, believes in what he is doing. His dismissal from the Order was the best thing that ever happened to him as opposed to Obi-Wan who is tense,unhappy and questioning everything that he is doing. Yes, it was meant to be a contrast and will continue to be so for some chapters yet. Actually, this relates a great deal to real life since when there are large layoffs, the people left behind are often worse off than the ones who are gone. I like the distant echoes of the Temple here on the estate - I thought that someone from the Temple would bring their memories and environment with them to some extent - from the rings used for exercise to the "Padawan" hairstyle. As for Anakin, I tend to be much more sympathetic to him than most on the boards (as you know from reading Draigon's Lair). He is very protective of Qui-Gon but still retains his brash energy. He needs to learn to keep his emotions in check, he has great power, but I think with Qui-Gon and the situation I've created (you'll see more later), he should be all right. As for Atel and Anakin, they are alike in many ways - protective of their masters and willing to give their lives for them, powerful in the Force and likely to clash again with each other.... Le'orath is indeed a worthy mate for Qui-Gon. She loves him without reservation but is still willing and able to be just as stubborn as Qui-Gon if she thinks she is right. I, too, always thought Qui-Gon would be good with kids. Look at how easily he related to the young Anakin in TPM- with smiles and hair ruffling and yet treating his questions with serious consideration. As for Ben, yes, he is very Force sensitive and has a great power in the Unifying Force, even though he is only 4. I wasn't sure just when the kids at the Temple would be able to handle the Force with any finesse so Ben is still taking baby steps here. And yes, he does see future events even if the future is always in motion... As for sneaking details in, I do that a lot, burying them in paragraphs so that you are aware of them in the back of your head but not really sure until they are brought up again later. Yes, most of the creche staff have been dismissed and the reason why is in the next chapter but I wanted to give a hint here... As for Ewan's cuteness in AOTC, I found him adorable in Dex's diner, the whole initial Kamino thing where he is talking to Lama Su (sp?) and even the chase through Coruscant (my favorite part of the movie). The only times I didn't like him was when he was being so sarcastic to Anakin on Geonosis (poor kid was only trying to rescue him - cut him some slack). I do adore Obi-Wan. That's why I like to torture him so much in my fic...LOL. -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/30/03 5:17am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 3/28
	Healer_Leona - welcome!! Yes, fics are always wonderful if Qui-Gon survives...LOL. I just couldn't let him be killed so I figured the next best thing would be to get him away from the Temple. I always thought that the Sith were subtle and patient (it took them a 1000 years to show up after the last Sith war)- therefore how better to get rid of your enemies than to have them destroy themselves through duty and submission to the will of the Senate. Of course, the Senate would be easy to manipulate (just look at TPM and AOTC) and governments are always looking for ways to cut expenses. Otherwise, they'd have to tax the trade routes...A hundred years to get the Jedi into a situation that they could not escape would have been amusing to the Sith, if nothing else. I did try to make the Sith as creepy as I could. Glad I succeeded. Yes, you will find out about what happened to the Council and the dismissed Jedi in future posts. However, I must say one thing about Yoda. People are always asking me why he isn't in my fics.....Everyone has at least one character in the SW universe that they don't like. I really hate Yoda - meddling old troll. I disliked him in TESB, manipulating Luke like that, disliked him even more in ROTJ when he almost didn't tell Luke about his father. But the full-blown annoyance/dislike occured in TPM in those awful Council scenes....Wow, I went on a tirade there...Sorry. Didn't mean to get carried away like that!!! Anyway, you will find out more about the Council and the rest of the former Jedi in upcoming posts....of course, you may not like the answer!! I agree that Atel didn't really deserve Obi-Wan yelling at her the first time. My only excuse was that he was exhausted, felt extremely guilty about not contacting Qui-Gon after all these years and she bore the brunt of it. He did feel badly about it afterwards.... Yes, the Room of a Thousand fountains was a major player in Obi-Wan's life...so, of course I had to get rid of it, all the while reminding him of hated Bandomeer. The question about why they are lying about Qui-Gon's past history is really going to be a minor question - especially when you see what the major questions are...but it will be answered...probably in chapter 15 or so (near the end of the fic). Atel has a very different view of the Jedi and the Republic from Obi-Wan's...a result of her upbringing. You'll see more of this later. The reunion of Qui and Obi was fabulous!!!! - oh...fabulous. I like that. I always thought that Qui-Gon would have a family if he were not a Jedi. He was wonderful with little Anakin and very gentle with Shmi so I thought he would be a great family man. As for Anakin, as I told JaneJinn, I tend to treat Anakin more sympathetically than most in my fics. He still will be Anakin in his personality traits but since his upbringing will be different than AOTC, he should be less likely to turn. Ah..yes...Ben. You noticed!!! Yes, Ben is actually named for Obi-Wan. But Le'orath would have none of it, claiming that she would not name her son for someone who has ignored Qui-Gon for so long. In the end, Ben's name was a compromise. Good call!! I'll be posting on Monday. I've got to sit down and seriously write more (I'm working on Chapter 13 now) or you all will catch up before I'm finished and then you'll be waiting for weeks on end for the next post. I'm sure you don't want that!!! Welcome Leona!! -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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Healer_Leona Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 3/30/03 5:27am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 3/28
	Thanks for the warm welcome!! Found But... in the archive and wasn't surprised that I read it quite a while ago... don't really remember where. Strange thing is I must have imagined it a spoof of some sort and had thought, the first time, for it to be funny. Now with this sequel going, it read in a whole new light and I can't for the life of me see what I thought was so amusing. This time is was just tragic... though the ray of hope was knowing that Qui-Gon was going to find a wife and family and be able to experience a life he hadn't had before. -----signature----- Feel so good, but I'm old 2000 years of chasing's taking it's toll
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/30/03 5:43am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 3/28
	Healer_Leona - You weren't the only one that thought But was a spoof. I think that because the idea of Qui-Gon getting laid off was just so ludicrous...I mean why would anyone lay off a Jedi Knight, especially one of his calibre. So, to a few, it just seemed funny and rightly so. It's actually based on real life. I wrote that right after I got laid off and before they offered me another job with my company. Like Qui-Gon, I had been there most of my life and then they just threw me and a lot of others away. In a number of cases, they sent guards to stand over the people as they packed up to leave - never got to say goodbye to anyone - just gone in a matter of an hour or so. Pretty harsh, I thought, which is why I put all of those emotions and actions into But. As for Qui-Gon, I always wanted the best for him. With a family and his involvement in....some things, he is a true Jedi (whatever his current ... affiliation). -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/30/03 5:33pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated on 3/28 - Date Edited: 1/17/06 11:25am (1 edits total) Edited By: dianethx
	Okay here's the beginnings of Chapter 6 and the reception gets chilly.... Chapter 6 - Connections and separations Qui-Gon knelt beside his son, rubbing his back, trying to allay his fears. "Ben, it's all right, it's all right. Obi-Wan is here to visit, nothing more." He shot a sharp questioning glance at Kenobi as though to ask if that were true, but Obi-Wan pointedly avoided the blue eyes, staring at the lovely carpet and Qui-Gon looked again at his son. Drawing back from his mother's embrace, Ben leapt into his father's arms, crying softly, hiccuping a bit and held on fast, his tiny fists grabbing the long graying hair. Qui-Gon made quiet comforting noises and stood up, still enfolding his son in his arms, gently rocking. Kenobi was about to say something to ease the child's fears, now flowing palpably through the Force when Atel's frenzied thoughts invaded his own. /Be wary, Master. Anakin's just ahead of me./ And a young man catapulted through the front door, took one look at Obi-Wan and moved to stand over him, posture clearly threatening. Atel was only a second behind him, catching the door on the backswing. She moved in, ready to defend her Master. The youth glared at Obi-Wan for a moment and then turned to Qui-Gon. His concern was palpable. "Are you okay? Has he hurt you?" Frowning, he glanced at the clinging child. "Why is Ben crying?" Throwing a quelling glance at Anakin, Jinn's eyes clearly indicated that Skywalker's menacing attitude was inappropriate. "I'm fine. Ben had a little scare but he will be better soon...right Ben?" The child nodded into his father's shoulder, his quiet sighs hitching as he began to calm. Anakin relaxed a fraction and moved to stand next to Qui-Gon. Unsure of the situation, he settled into ready stance, continuing to scowl at Kenobi. His young face was a shifting map of troubling thoughts; confusion about the sudden appearance of this Jedi Knight, disdain for the apparent coincidence, distrust that, with so many former Jedi dead, Qui-Gon might well be the next target. His glare morphed into an entrenched frown, mouth set and grim. Hovering near his Master, Anakin's entire posture was clearly to guard Qui-Gon Jinn at all costs, with his life if necessary. Looking at both men standing over him and reading Anakin's glowering presence as one of potential threat, Kenobi realized that he was somewhat trapped by the couch and low table before him. Smiling to relieve the tension, Obi-Wan nodded and stood up, moving discreetly to stand next to his apprentice. Qui-Gon spoke first. "I believe that introductions are in order." Gesturing towards the Jedi, he nodded. "Anakin Skywalker, meet Obi-Wan Kenobi." Qui-Gon's eyes flicked from one to the other, a brief grin lighting his face. "He's my former Padawan, now a Jedi Knight and, by the looks of it, soon to be Master Kenobi." Qui-Gon placed a large hand on Anakin's shoulder, squeezing slightly. The young man calmed and sent him back a grateful smile. "Anakin is my apprentice." "Apprentice?!" Obi-Wan was startled by that statement, eyes raking the two. This unexpected news was troubling. Jinn frowned somewhat, then his face cleared as he looked again at Anakin. "Yes, he is learning the trade." Atel had stood there quietly as the conversation flowed around her, looking at Anakin, a scowl flitting across her face. His name was familiar, so familiar; she had read it or heard it somewhere recently. And then the memory snapped into place. "You're Anakin Skywalker....the Hero of Naboo?" The young man nodded, flustered. "But that would mean that you were very young at the Battle of Theed." He glowered at her, exasperated. "I was nine years old. What about it?" She pressed on, turning toward him. "I read in the histories that you made the shot that brought down the Trade Federation vessel. Impressive shooting for someone so young or... was it luck? " Skywalker took a step forward, space narrowing between them. "It's none of your damn business, Jedi." His eyes gleamed as he stared at her. "Besides, there's no such thing as luck." Obi-Wan loudly cleared his throat. "And this brash young woman is my Padawan, Atel Sl'etah." He shot her a quieting, not-now look. "Atel, I don't believe you have met Mistress Le'orath Jinn, Qui-Gon's wife and his son, Ben." Atel was speechless, her violet eyes widening. /Wife, Master!!! And a son. That was not in the briefing nor in the data they gave us./ Le'orath rose gracefully and bowed, a mere nod of the head. "Welcome to our home, Padawan." Turning to her husband and gathering Ben gently into her arms, she looked at the tableau. "Qui-Gon, I need to begin the evening meal. I assume that your guests will be staying." At her husband's assent, she turned to the young man. "Anakin, could you help me, please?" Moving past the Jedi, Obi-Wan's words stopped her for a moment. "I thank you for your generous offer, my lady. We would be glad to accept your hospitality. Atel, please go with them and lend any assistance." The group disappeared into the far doorway, his Padawan trailing behind and sending Obi-Wan an annoyed glare before moving out of his line of sight. When they were alone once more, Obi-Wan turned to his old mentor. "You have a fine family, Master." Qui-Gon grinned at that. "Le'orath must like you. She hates to cook and for her to volunteer...I'm astonished." "Your son, Ben, seems to be an exceptional boy, strong in the Force. How long has he been having these visions?" Qui-Gon's smile vanished and a stoic, shuttered look came over his face. His voice, too, was neutral, with just a touch of frost. "Visions, I'm sure that you are mistaken." His eyes tightened for just a moment, then said with some bemusement and not a little irony. "Or have you come to take me away?" Obi-Wan moved close to Qui-Gon and gently grasped his arm. "I have no intention of taking you anywhere, Master. But it's clear that your son has been touched by the Force. How long?" Qui-Gon looked down at Obi-Wan's hand, resting so comfortably there, memories ghosting of other times and other places long ago. He swallowed hard, looked again into those remembered sea-grey eyes and conceded the point. "He's been having waking dreams for about six months; some come true, some have yet to come to pass, some do not." "Master, it is clear that he is very Force-sensitive. He needs to be trained in the ways of the Jedi. And he's not too old. I could take him back with me..." Qui-Gon jerked his arm away from Kenobi. His glacier-blue eyes narrowed as he stood tall, arms folded, immovable. His voice, too, was cold as ice. "No, I forbid it." "But surely he would be better off at the Temple. We would train him properly." The voice was colder still, space-cold, eternity-cold. "I said no." Obi-Wan had heard that tone only once in his life and he had forgotten neither the reason nor the result. He knew that pressing the point would not sway Qui-Gon and, indeed, might further antagonize him. But duty was duty. And he was sworn to find and bring back any children worthy of the Order, should the parents agree. "Master, please listen. We need your son, desperately." Qui-Gon stiffened at the words. "You don't know what is going on at the Temple. Parents are refusing to give their children to the Jedi. We are told that the Order is no longer trustworthy." Obi-Wan shook his head in disbelief. "The number of young ones coming into the creche has dwindled to almost nothing. Only orphans or unwanted babies, no one else. In the last year, there have been only nine given to the Jedi, not even enough for a single Clan. The Council does not know what to do." Obi-Wan grasped his Master's arm again, warmth and strength seeping through his hands, trying to break the frost, to persuade Qui-Gon to see the critical imperative of allowing his son to go to the Jedi. But the sharp icy stare forced the Knight to let go, his hands falling to his side, hope leaching away. One final try. "At this rate, the Jedi will be extinct within a generation. Your son would do much to alleviate this, especially coming from a family of one so sorely mistreated. He would be an example of the trust you have in the Jedi. An example that others might follow." "Trust?! I will not send my son to be trained and then discarded as so much trash. No!!" Sighing heavily, Obi-Wan gentled his voice. "So be it. I had to try." He leaned in close, almost whispering. "A warning, then, from a former Padawan to his old much-esteemed Master." Startled, Qui-Gon bent down to catch the words. "The Senate is making noises about collecting data on all Force-sensitive children. From the lowest to the highest ranks of society. For their own government records, they say, not just for the Jedi's use. It doesn't make sense really since we are the only ones that would use that information. But vicious rumors are flying that the Republic government may mandate that the children be taken without consent, made wards of the state and given over to the Order. I don't agree with this course - it would be disastrous for the Jedi and for the families. It may just be rumors. They may want the information for other reasons, but I thought you should know. Qui-Gon...guard your son well." -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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LuvEwan Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/30/03 8:06pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated again on 3/30
	Another fantastic post! But Anakin is beyond nauseating. He snaps at Atel and Obi-Wan over nothing. And Qui-Gon should trust his wife's instincts. Obi's intentions can only be of the light...although the same definitely cannot be said of Bratakin. Great job, diane. -----signature----- What Light Breaks-AU Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon Anakin angst (collaboration with Spiritweaver) http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/29979222/p1/?0 You want an Obi-Wan epic? We've got it right here.
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Jane Jinn Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 3/31/03 12:14am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated again on 3/30 - Date Edited: 3/31/03 12:15am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jane Jinn
	It's actually based on real life. I wrote that right after I got laid off and before they offered me another job with my company. Like Qui-Gon, I had been there most of my life and then they just threw me and a lot of others away. In a number of cases, they sent guards to stand over the people as they packed up to leave - never got to say goodbye to anyone - just gone in a matter of an hour or so. Pretty harsh, I thought ... That is really harsh! Guards? Not letting people say good-bye? stares aghast at the page Where on earth did you work -- or is it a government secret? I'll bet Obi-Wan got a bit of a shock when he heard that Anakin was Qui-Gon's apprentice. Of course he'd be thinking padawan -- and Qui-Gon's next words, about "the trade" could be taken two different ways; either as a farming apprentice, or ... learning the ways of the Force? Loved the way Anakin glowered at Atel and snidely told her there is no such thing as luck. Yes, the Force is strong with this one. I also liked the way Atel gave Obi-Wan an annoyed look when he sent her off to help in the kitchen. Hope there are no "accidents" between her and Anakin and any knives or other sharp kitchen implements. They do act like they're at each other's throats. Of course, Le'orath seems like she's strong enough to keep them both in check. Parents are refusing to give their children to the Jedi? They say they're not trustworthy? Well, good heavens, I wonder why! No doubt Jedi who have been dismissed will be coming home to their relatives and telling them about what's going on! I can't believe that Obi-Wan would actually ask Qui-Gon for his son -- but I guess he still believes in the Jedi Order, or at least enough to think it's the best place for a Force-sensitive child. Qui-Gon is quite right to refuse, though! I'm worried about this rumour that Obi-Wan is telling Qui-Gon, though! That is so Sithly, to make a law that would allow children to be taken without consent! Actually, I don't think it's just a rumour ... there has got to be something behind this, or rather, someone. Argh, this whole story makes my blood boil and my hands and teeth clench! It's powerful and excellent! -----signature----- Mostly retired now Just making the occasional guest appearance
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/31/03 4:18am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated again on 3/30
	LuvEwan- Thanks for the accolade. Yes, Anakin is snapping at Obi-Wan for apparently no reason - notice I use the word apprarently. There is more going on here than Obi-Wan knows yet. As for Obi-Wan's intentions, he is bound to duty even though the Jedi are not what they once were. Being trapped by duty and honor, he still cannot see the whole picture as yet. And he is there to investigate Qui-Gon for possible rogue behavior... You'll find out more about what has been going on at the Temple in the next post - tomorrow. Glad you're enjoying it!! -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/31/03 4:25am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated again on 3/30
	JaneJinn - Yes, real life. It can be a ....I work for a large multinational chemical company. The description of what happened with the layoffs is pretty typical of most companies around here. In one instance at my company, the guy wasn't even allowed on site but met by the door by guards and told to come back after hours to pick up his stuff. Like I said, others were escorted out under guard (and I knew these people and guards were NOT called for). The story But where Qui-Gon had to leave his lightsaber and never do the work of a Jedi is based on my contract. That states that if I leave, I cannot work in the same field for 18 months. It's a typical contract in the chemical industry. I swear that corporate America has been taken over by the Sith!!! because they sure do act like it. They often say that you should write what you know. I did with that one. And now, here we are and I've put a few things in here that have happened at work as well.... Hope that doesn't detract from the story any... -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/31/03 4:36am Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated again on 3/30
	JaneJinn And now onto your wonderful comments... Yes, Anakin is Qui-Gon's apprentice...and I did word it that way for a reason...evil laugh inserted here! Atel tends to shoot Obi-Wan a lot of annoyed looks. She did not want to go into the kitchen with that brash idiot but rather stay and investigate Qui-Gon. She was probably thinking bad thoughts about her Master for quite a while...LOL. Giving children to the Jedi is essential for the Jedi to continue in the manner to which they have become accustomed. I would have thought that giving up your child would be difficult when the Jedi were at their peak but now...no way!! I'm sure that Obi-Wan realizes this but he is required to ask. As for getting listings of children with Force-sensitivity....well now...who would want that? Yes, it's a Sithy thing to do. Oh,I'm making your blood boil. And I haven't even gotten to the bad parts yet!!! Thanks, Jane. Glad you are enjoying it so much. -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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Shaindl Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 3/31/03 3:10pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated again on 3/30
	Diane, I read this on the weekend and didn't have a chance to respond then. There were all sorts of things I wanted to comment on, but there were so many, I would be going on forever. In no particular order: You got to see Liam half naked? God, how I envy you! Love the protectiveness of Qui's wife. I like that she's a real woman and not some whip thin model type. You're right - he would need a woman who could tell him off when he needed it. You've created such a character - well done. Scary thought, a database of Force sensitive children and the possible legislation that goes along with it. Kind of reminiscent of some of Canada's history (that's where I'm from). Liam, dripping wet, half naked? Lucky, lucky girl! Wonderful descriptions - all the characters (including the Temple, which I would never have thought of as a character - interesting way of thinking about that, incidentally) are fully realised, and the landscape is easy for me to picture in my mind's eye. I like the contrasts between Obi and Qui, one so unhappy and despondent, the other like he's found his true self. I'll be interested to see how they navigate the problems of the past ten years. Finally, Liam - drool... Okay, I'm done now - I'm sure there's more I wanted to comment on, but that will do for now. Great work, and can't wait for the next post. Shaindl -----signature----- Halfway Moment - Qui, Obi, Anakin AU - http://boards.theforce.net/The_Saga/b10476/20110461/?0 - UPDATED JULY 3!
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/31/03 4:09pm Subject: RE: Betrayal (Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon angst - very AU) Updated again on 3/30
	Shaindl Hi again! Yes, Liam, tall, buff, wet Liam with longish brown hair that tended to go into his eyes, those piercing blue eyes so intense....Is it hot in here? In fact, I told my friend that if he ever comes back to Broadway, I'm there and she said she'd be right behind me. I would have gone to see it twice but it was $80 and that is a little steep for me....Apparently, every few years, he's on Broadway so next time.... Canada had a list of children...that's sounds a little creepy. Why did they do that? Did it have to do with sending orphans out to the farms a la Anne of Green Gables? Just an aside..I've been to Canada several times - really loved Banff, Nova Scotia and Vancover - notice a mountain theme here... Back to the story, yes, I wanted to really contrast their lives. At first, Qui-Gon's life was very difficult but he has a good one now - with family, friends and a purpose. Obi-Wan, on the other hand, had a home, a support system and a purpose that is slowly deteriorating into darkness. In a way, they have switched places in the 10 years. But, as I said, Obi-Wan doesn't know yet just how far the darkness has penetrated.... Don't worry, Shaindl - that was enough comments for me. Even a quick hello is okay, although indepth discussion is great, too. -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 9/22/09 jedidas3's Master Merlin - Diplomatic Immunity - http://boards.theforce.net/nswff/b10808/30459852
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