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Persephone_Kore Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/14/07 11:08pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku
	Oh, Jocasta. mourns You're the one who got me interested in her, you know. I'm not sure whether I have anything to say about her or not, but she was just... there... for me before you talked about her to me, and I read your stories about her. I never quite liked the theories that she was evil, or otherwise in cahoots with Dooku, but I can entirely buy your theory that he was a dear friend, and that if she suspected he had done anything she might have revolted against the idea too hard to consider that the records could be wrong. The ship usually doesn't work for me as a story's assumption, somehow, and yet I think I'd believe it if you wrote it. I didn't understand that it was a dream until the end, though it makes so much sense, that she'd dream him after he died. I wonder still if there wasn't a vision-element. I like your choice of details, setting the scene. The lightsaber, the creamy gold of the glowlamps, the soft light of the holobook titles. The way the busts are shadow-shapes. I find myself wondering about Jocasta talking of precarious resting on the edge of a blade, because I think of that as referring to a sword, or at least a weapon-type knife, and a lightsaber is all edge and you can't generally rest anything on it. I wonder if it's got to do with the tools she used in archaeology, or older weapons, and then I realize that they'd still have regular knives for silverware and stuff probably (and briefly digress into wanting to write somebody in the GFFA using chopsticks, because why not?) and feel generally silly. I keep wondering what the tapping is. It's painful, the way you write the lines that hover uncertainly between appeal and mockery. And how she wavers between the interpretations. Turns of phrase like "a slice away from sarcasm" that I'd never think of, and almost don't make sense, but mean and feel like what they mean. I like that she hopes her memory hurts him too. It suits the mixture of feelings. “That’s why I didn’t ever lose.” The comment strikes an errant note in my mind. You don't say.... I like the way she considers that maybe she should have given him the benefit of the doubt, and then the next thing he says sets her off, fuming through his list of grievances, and maybe she's mocking a little there, dismissing, but it's accurate too. And he is making fun of her, just after, while she's still serious and fervent, but I think maybe it hit home, too. Only maybe not. Who knows with phantoms? The offended "When?" when she says he betrayed her is so absurd, given all he's done, and so strangely appropriate. I don't think I mean to kill him -- when she's just drawn her lightsaber on him. And then his teasing her about it, and it's such an odd image, him backing away with his hands tucked behind him. When he walks onto the blade it's chilling, the details, the... gah. I don't even know what to comment on here, there's too much. His inviting her to kill him, that she can't, the echo of her breathing (part of the library, or part of the dream?), the walking forward and change in his expression, gasp, the friction -- should there be friction? But there's some resistance to the blade, some -- everything to the way he falls against her at the end, the terror and feeling the laughter, and then "offers her another handless wrist and straightens up" (and her thinking they were curled back) and then hiding them from her. And he's right, really, that he isn't her burden to carry. The teacups are beautiful, and the roses (of course, roses, he'd have liked that they were roses, or maybe laughed) as thumbprints of blood are eerie and fit the way things have been twisted and hurt. The tea set sounds lovely, sketched with just a few images and simple words as it is. The details of the Coruscant night are good, warm smog and the beads of traffic. The hurt of the lost friendship feels so real too, that she remembers him fondly even though he's a Sith Lord, that she remembers how annoying he could be even though he was her friend. It seems a shame to have broken the teacups, but I wonder if it helped her. I hope so. In a few days I suppose it wouldn't have mattered. -----signature----- Protégé: Chosen: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/28612428 A Rose in the Ashes: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/29028814 Lost Ones: http://boards.theforce.net/f/b1/29061459 Morality and the Sith Apprentice: http://boards.theforce.net/f1/b1/27581326
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Dreagoddess Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 1/15/07 12:36pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku
	Darn you, Jess, what is WITH you and making me cry?! You write Dooku SO well, and Jo's conflicted feelings just made me ACHE. -----signature----- Things That Never Happened to Dooku, Unfortunately http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=23925706&brd=10476&replies=1 Without Rancor (Dooku, Qui-Gon one-shot) http://boards.theforce.net/before_the_saga/b10475/23957104/p1/?10
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LuminaraFan4Evr Registered: Sep '06	Date Posted: 1/15/07 3:21pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku
	Wow. That was really good. There are so many forgotten Jedi women in the Temple, it just isn't funny. Luminara Unduli, Barriss Offee, Depa Billaba, Stass Aliie, Shaak Ti, Aayla Secura, Bant... the list goes on and on. -----signature----- Proud Member Of The Lumi Fan Club I'm a Lumi/Wan shipper. If you are too, PM me! "If God had meant for you to have just one cookie, you wouldn't have two hands." - My Grandpa
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Vivid_Scripts Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 1/15/07 5:53pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku
	I like, a lot. I liked Bant's entry better than Jocasta's entry (probably because I'm more attuned to Bant) but Jocasta's entry was so well written. the details, the descriptions, the pacing, the diction... all of it was perfect, as was the dialogue. And Bant's entry so sad. Who are you doing next? Aayala and Kit? Or Luminara and Barriss? (Yes, those are suggestions) -----signature----- The ANSWER to 1984 is 1776
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anakin_luver Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 2/15/07 10:17pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku
	oh man. the wait was well worth it! that was amazing. you have some sort of beautiful gift to just suck me into each story from the very first word. all i can say is that this piece just highlighted all that was Dooku...brilliant really, how my opinion of him has changed from reading this one post. an immensely charming piece. loved every word of it. -----signature----- PRISON BREAK mrs. s <scofield> <sparrow> <skywalker> COME ON CANADA! YOU CAN DO IT!
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Charmisjess Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 2/20/07 5:46pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku
	Such sweet comments! I wish I had an update for you! Leia: Ahhh, I don't know! I didn't want to presume! And ack! I didn't mean to steal your bunny! Dooku bunnies are traitorous, I've noticed! Thank you, dearie! divapilot: You are whole new levels of kind. hugs weakly I'm glad you caught the betrayal aspect with Jo--she's so conflicted about all of this, I do rather feel for her. Ooh, and yes, I want to write Aayla so badly! She is definitely on the list--I just need the perfect plot bunny. I have had a couple little nibbles for her, but she is such an extraordinarily lovely character, I want to be positive I have it before I try. Thank you so much for reviewing! Peeks: I'm so glad I could win you over to her. shuffles feet and tries to pretend she hasn't been attempting that for some time Concerning the dream-versus-vision, I admit to making the line deliberately blurred. Well, here's how it goes in my crazy mind: everything she "dreams" is created by her own mind, so everything Dooku says is pretty much already in her head. But on the other hand, she is/was mentally linked with him at some point, so part of him is leftover, and maybe influencing. Also: little bits of Dooku in the atmosphere over Coruscant, perhaps. Isn't that a ghastly image? I think the tapping is his foot against the statue. But it might just be her mind getting her attention. Thank you for such a thought-out and involved comment. You always choose the most interesting aspects to comment on--I look forward to your opinions very much. Best!Drea: Ahhhh--I'm sorry! grin Well, not too sorry. You make me all with the blushing and flattered. hugs LuminaraFan4Evr: The female Jedi have long been one of my favorite things about the prequels. So many excellent, vibrant characters waiting to be explored! Vivid_Scripts: Thank you much for the suggestions! I'm probably going with either of those next. I really appreciate the kind words--they really do make my day so much. anakin_luver: You are so kind!! ^^ That's one of the best things I've been told, about your opinion of Dooku changing--he's given so little attention in the fandom for the level of complexity that the character operates on, and I'm so pleased I could direct you to it coherently. hugs -----signature----- I <3 Starrie. Strange Little Girls-> http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/24496675/p1/?0 Where are you going?
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Pandora26 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/24/07 7:03pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku - Date Edited: 6/10/07 1:26pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Pandora26
	Honestly, I don't know why I hadn't already read and replied to these stories. There isn't enough fan fic out there about the minor female characters in the prequels, including the Jedi women. But I may as well make up for it. Underwater Thing: I haven't read any of the Jedi Apprentice books, so I only know about Bant from the little fan fic I've seen with her. But here, I get the feeling she is a in a dark, (and yes) underwater place. As though she is so wounded that she has retreated not to heal, but simply to hide. But the things that wounded her are still with her, as is evident in her talks with her dead master, Tahl. I get the feeling that when she knew her, and Qui-Gon, she kept a lot of what she felt to herself. But not anymore. Bant seems very childlike here, even though, if she was Obi-Wan's playmate, she has to be an adult. I got the feeling that she had been, well, his sidekick. His little ghost, as you said in one of your responses. And now she has become a ghost in truth, where she can't be seen, only leaving behind a stone so Obi-Wan can know she was there. Just as her voice in this story is like water, almost slippery, and hard to catch. I didn't read the ending as her dying (Although the story is clearly set at a certain point in ROTS, so...). I saw it as ambigious and open ended, and I have to admit that I prefer it that way. That it ends with her counting. Honey: Somehow, I had the feeling that when Dooku showed up in the archive in his old robes, he was already dead. Almost as if that was the only way he could be there, talking to Jocasta, once more. (Though since the previous story was set during ROTS, I had the feeling this one was as well.) But even though it turned out that Jocasta dreamed it, it felt, well, stronger than a dream to me. Almost a vision. And yet-- It's interesting that, though Jedi usually have dreams that are about the future or serve as warnings, I saw this dream or vision of Jocasta's as just like a dream an "ordinary" person would have. It's where she is facing down her conflicted feelings towards Dooku, and telling him what she will never be able to tell him in life. Also, this story is set at night, and I got a very dark, drifting night feeling from "Underwater Thing." And both characters are, though they might not know it, at the end of their lives. And actually, I've always kind of liked Jocasta, even if she did snap at Obi-Wan. I think I just felt that she had to be more than what you saw of her in those few minutes in AOTC. It makes sense that Dooku would erase Kamino through her access card. I've heard people who are archivists say that she could never, never have done it herself, no matter what she felt for him. There is a lot of history between those two, and I can feel it behind what they say to each other. And there are those happy memories, now stained by Dooku's turn, that are symbolized by the teacups. Jocasta breaks them because she knows she can't keep those memories anymore. Because, well, he did choose his side. I'll be interested to see who you choose to write about next. -----signature----- Dante the Pilgrim/Virgil is my OTP
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Azeria_Jade Title: Tipoca City Webmistress Vancouver BC CA Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 5/25/07 1:58pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku
	Ooh! Great idea! I don't think female Jedi get as much "screen" time as they deserve. The Jocasta/Dooku one gave me chills! -----signature----- Star Wars Alternate Universe Fanfiction: Shroud of Darkness http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=26793660&brd=10476&replies=1 Spoiler free for Shadows of Mindor!
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Mirima_Tivos Registered: Mar '07	Date Posted: 6/10/07 12:51pm Subject: RE: Strange Little Girls <Female Jedi Vigs>: Honey-----Jocasta Nu, Count Dooku
	You've converted me into a Docasta shipper! And now the plotbunnies are breeding... You also inspired me to write a fic about Bant's apprenticeship with Kit. More, please?
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