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Golden_Jedi Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 3/17 9:52am Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	Mal's mom was hilarious! I wonder if Quinlan will give in... -----signature----- The country is that place where chickens walk around uncooked - Julio Cortázar Unexpected Blossom http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28693266 Sailing Little Boats http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28747916
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LadyLunas Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 3/17 10:39am Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	River, darling, only you. Mal's mom is great - her biting sense of humour fits her situation so well. And the Inara/River moment was humourously sad. Not bittersweet, but it certainly reflects the overall feeling of River and everyone close to her. Things I'm thinking about: “You are going to have two boys and a girl,” River said. “You’ll own a ranch on a beautiful world with waves of green grass, waterfalls like tapestries and a sky so blue it seems that it could not be real.” Mmm . . . kinda reminds me of Naboo. “Radiation poisoning. Went scavenging in Shadow Town. Died few years back. Got me a pretty young thing now.” Why, oh, why is my mind jumping to Saffron? Good chapter! -----signature----- Darth Real Life hates me. Therefore, I battle him constantly. Currently, he's winning. See profile for fics. Padawan of SakuraTsukikage.
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snowspeeder_gunner Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 3/17 12:11pm Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	“With ‘em or at ‘em.” “Yes,” Zoe said. LOL! Great update, I love this story! -----signature----- "You can't give a Dementor the old one-two!" http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=29052620&brd=10476&replies=0 hide^
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Independence1776 Registered: Feb '06	Date Posted: 3/17 12:52pm Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	I know I’ve gotten myself into hot water with my views on Padme. I guess part of my issue is that I’m an OT fan. I liked Leia’s character. Even when they made her a damsel in distress in ROTJ, she still killed Jabba. Padme of course was not an action character, although they tried in AOTC. She was a politician, so for me the scenes that would have shown her at her best were the scenes Georgie cut. Still, ROTS was the best of the prequels. Oh, I definitely agree with you on that one. I'm more fond of the OT as well, though for some reason, I read fanfic mostly in the PT.Chapter Twelve: Guess Who’s Coming For Dinner This had become somewhat of a tradition since Mr. Universe. He would remove his clothes to show her his scars, and she would remove hers in order to better comfort him, and they would have a generally good time. Neither of them mentioned the word love. What they had was too fragile and to precious to risk it. I can completely see that. “You are going to have two boys and a girl,” River said. “You’ll own a ranch on a beautiful world with waves of green grass, waterfalls like tapestries and a sky so blue it seems that it could not be real.” Hmm.... is this one vision that will come true? “It will be very nice,” River said. “How do I seduce a man?” chokes “Seduction can buy you a night,” she said, “but love can buy you a lifetime.” Love that line! "I must love him.” Why the must? Is something going to happen? “Aye aye, Captain,” Wash said. “Putting us down over there. On that flat spot. I’m landing the ship. It’s going to land and be real smooth. Yes, siree. A leaf on the wind.” “Honey,” Zoe said gently, “shut up.” Smart woman! “Only son I got is with me,” voice came back. “Others died with the rest of them angels at Serenity Valley.” Eep. “She doesn’t know you very well any more, does she?” Zoe said. The audio signal crackled. “Was that Zoe? Zoe Alleyne?” “It’s Washburn now, Kat, but yeah, it’s me,” Zoe said. Okay, now she knows it's Mal. “Why do you got that line on your face?” “To look pretty,” Vos said. “We live in a cave, not under a rock,” Kat snarled. “We got fifty thousand strong just waitin’ for the Alliance to trip up. The Movement’s not dead, boys and girls. It’s just laying low.” 50,000?! Yeah, the Alliance wouldn't be happy to know that. Kat leaned forward and captured the Jedi in another harsh glare. “Which side did you fight for, boy?” Vos smiled. “The losing one.” “But not the wrong one,” Jeb said, misunderstanding. “We lost, but we were in the right.” Vos chose not to respond. Jeb wouldn't understand; it would take too long to explain; and there were no right sides. How long ago was that? That was the frustrating thing. He had no idea how long it had been since the war. Was it mere days, months? Was his son a grown man now? Were they even alive? Try as he might, he could not pierce the veil of darkness that seemed to hang over the system. “A thief and a spy. A killer and a lover. She was strong when I was weak, and weak when I needed to protect her. She’s saved my life, and I hers. I was going to leave the Order for her.” The perfect woman for him, and worth leaving the Order for. River nodded and stared out over the dimly lit cavern. “What does is feel like, to make love?” she asked. Classic River... “A writer of Earth-that-was once said ‘We are made wise not by the recollection of our past, but by the responsibility for our future.’” Who said that? She looked back up and smiled sadly. “I know I can’t have you forever. I know I can’t even have you for a while. Our lives are moments broken by time.” She pulled herself to her knees, and with a shrug had the sleeping shirt off. She wore nothing underneath. Her lithe body flexed under the distant silver light, her skin reflected it like an olive-toned mirror. She was so thin, so fragile in her beauty. And yet she moved with all the grace of a Cathar with twice the lethality. In that one moment, as she stared naked at him, she was the most beautiful creature he had ever seen. Somehow, I should have expected that. “Give me his moment,” she said as she lifted his hand to her chest and pulled her lips to his. “Please give me this one moment.” Um, River.... Vos... If he really does give in, let's hope Simon and Jayne don't find out. The Jedi may not survive.... Interesting update! -----signature----- "Independence forever." John Adams Padawan to Luna_Nightshade Fics in bio Ever wondered what would happen if some normal students came to the Temple? Come find out: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/27996678
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Laine_Snowtrekker Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 3/17 2:52pm Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	Great post. And River's treading dangerous ground--but when is she not?? Thanks for the PM. -----signature----- Stealth and subtlety work well, but for making lasting impressions, a blaster does just fine. -Han Room full of gold and jewels, and Dr. Daniel Jackson finds the one book. -Cam Palso's #1 Fan JO: RS1, Admiral Fanfic link in bio (esp. 08 Diary Challenge)
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VaderLVR64 Title: Fan Fic Manager Digging out from Fay Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 3/18 6:45am Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	That's exactly the type of mother I'd imagine Mal would have. Perfect! “You are going to have two boys and a girl,” River said. “You’ll own a ranch on a beautiful world with waves of green grass, waterfalls like tapestries and a sky so blue it seems that it could not be real.” “That sounds nice,” Inara wistfully. “It will be very nice,” River said. “How do I seduce a man?” Mal fought very hard not to cough and turned to leave when Inara answered. “Seduction can buy you a night,” she said, “but love can buy you a lifetime.” “I can’t see my lifetime,” she said. “I can’t even see the coming year. I love him, though. I must love him.” And wow, this is SO River! Your characterizations are flawless. -----signature----- If you have to choose between tears and laughter, remember that laughter burns more calories. They call me NANA Vader. At least she doesn't lack confidence...
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dianethx Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/18 3:56pm Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	That was wonderful. River is certainly single minded about Quin. I loved how you described their time together and also how Quinlan was thinking of his love and his baby. Very sweet. Great job. -----signature----- Betrayal - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b1/10935143 updated 6/28/08 Fragments of Illusion- http://boards.theforce.net/bts/b10475/28456473 updated 8/16/08 Freeze frame - http://boards.theforce.net/s/b10476/27820434 Master to jedidas3 Impeach Bush!
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Thumper09 Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 3/23 12:10pm Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	Heh heh, you did a great job with Mal's mom. She had some fascinating lines, and I can totally see Mal being her son. The mentions of his siblings was neat too, but sad since so many had died. I really liked Jeb's line "The Reynolds gone to warn God about us!" I also liked their reactions to seeing Zoe, even though they seemed happier to see her than Mal. Shadow's a pretty interesting place--I love their resourcefulness. Not even letting an orbital bombardment beat them...now that's tenacity. Great post, and I'm looking forward to more! -Thumper -----signature----- "Like anything worth writing, it came inexplicably and without method." -Karen Eiffel The Way--Imperial pilot OCs, OT: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/28104637 OC X-wing fics: http://www.coronasquadron.com/corona.html
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callista_gseran Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 3/23 6:59pm Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	Hmmmm.... I wonder where River will go with THAT..... -----signature----- Callista Gseran Adoptee of Dev_Binks
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Darth_Marrs Registered: Feb '06	Date Posted: 3/24 6:29am Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/17/2008
	TigerofRobare—Would you? Golden_Jedi—Thank you. And yes, he does. LadyLunas—River is certainly single-minded. And although it would have been great for me to get Saffron into this story, no one really knows about Shadow nor would they want to go there. No profits, little to steal. Still, that’s a great idea! Snowspeeder_gunner—Thank you, I’m glad you’re still enjoying! Independence1776—Alas, Vos does give in. River’s vision is very powerful. Laine_Snowtrekker—This is definitely dangerous ground. VaderLVR64—Thank you, I’m glad the chapter worked for you. Dianethx—She is absolutely obsessed by him. Quinlan is a little less sure of himself, because he does truly love Khaleen. Thumper09—It was sad. I drew a lot of that from families in the Civil War. Callista_gseran—I could tell you where River’s going with that, but then it wouldn’t be a PG story any more Okay, a note about Vos and River: I was honestly a bit nervous about the paring because of the huge age difference. But then I asked myself what the Mighty Joss would do, and the voices in my head pointed to the fact that the Mighty Joss had a centuries-old vampire seduce a teen-age girl. A 30 year age difference doesn’t seem as creepy in that context. Still, I am aware of the age difference. It might be authorial heavy-handedness, but River does have a powerful vision and only Vos can help her bring it to fruition, and in Vos's defense he does not know if Khaleen is alive, or how long it's been since he was captured. This next chapter is short but important, because it gives a hint of what is behind River’s terrible visions of doom. I hope you enjoy. Chapter Thirteen: “By the Pricking of My Thumbs…” “Mal, you’d better come see this,” Kat said three days after Serenity arrived on Shadow. The whole crew was actually out in a corn field helping the other residents with their harvest, except for Quinlan and River. Those two were practicing with their glowing swords to the awe-struck attention of every child in the community. Even Kat, after delivering her message, stopped to stare at those two. “They don’t seem right,” she muttered to herself. Just then, Vos vaulted into a fifteen-foot high somersault that left the children ohing and ahing in admiration. “Not natural.” “You have no idea,” Mal muttered. He wiped the sweat from his brow and followed his mother out of the field toward the small security room. The others followed, including Quin and River when they saw the movement. “What’s going on?” Mal said as he and the rest arrived. The entire far wall of the room was dominated by a large wave relay connected to a series of receivers on the surface. Kat flipped a switch on the relay and a five foot wide screen blinked to life with a Cortex signal. The screen was dominated by an attractive young woman with Asian features and naturally blonde hair and green eyes, while behind her was a satellite feed of a fleet of ships larger than anything amassed since the war. “…repeat, the Union of Allied Planets has declared a Class One interplanetary emergency. Hostile forces have destroyed three Rim skyplexes and have evidently occupied the planet New Melbourne and all its moons. The Forces are described as ‘Reavers’ and have left no one alive in the wake of their passage. Parliamentary spokespeople have stated that the entire Alliance Second Fleet is massing near Boros to begin operations against this savage enemy.” Kat muted the button. Mal felt sick to his stomach. “There were twenty million people on New Melbourne,” Wash said. “Another five on the moons,” Samhael added. “Reavers attack small towns and ships,” Mal said. “They don’t attack planets. How can they have those kinds of numbers?” “Maybe the ‘Reavers’ have changed,” River said softly. She stood as always beside the hulking Quinlan. “They were after us on that skyplex. Maybe they’ve changed.” For once neither Mal nor anyone else had anything to say about it. Over the next few days, the citizens of that particular cavern set up an impromptu wave receiver with a screen large enough to be seen by the several hundred people living there. Occasional signals would come in updating the Alliance of the fleets movements. In the meantime, Wash moved the ship to a more secured and hidden spot accessible by a different exit and the crew helped plant food. River trained with Vos to harness the power of the Force. On their fifth day there, Simon, who offered his services to the residents, finished giving a little boy a shot of plural inoculations when he saw his sister and Vos training nearby. He watched as enthralled as the rest of the residents as his sister engaged in physical feats of prowess beyond even his description. Objects flew around them of their own accord; they would burst into runs at speeds beyond belief, and then would simply sit and meditate for an hour or more. But during the whole afternoon, even between patients, Simon had noticed the way River hung close to Vos. He noticed the way her hands seemed to be reaching for him all the time. And, as a young boy walked away rubbing where Simon had given him the shot, Simon saw something that shocked him. He saw Vos take one of River’s reaching hands in his, and gently kiss it. Simon became very still and narrowed his eyes. Quin and River. The Jedi was such a large, dark and imposing man. It just seemed so unbelievable. “Disgusting, ain’t it?” Jayne said. He stood directly behind the doctor with his thick arms crossed. Simon spun around with a gasp. “Jayne, please don’t sneak up on me.” “I ain’t sneaking’,” Jayne snarled. “You just weren’t paying no attention.” He nodded. “Gorram moon-brain got herself a toy.” “You’re talking about my sister.” “Yeah.” Jayne completely missed the thrust of Simon’s comment. “Getting all naked with that guy. Like he’s something special, gorram moon-brain.” “You’re talking about my sister,” Simon said again, louder. “I’m talking ‘bout your sister getting naked with that huh choo-shang tza-jiao duh tzang-huo.” Simon rolled his eyes in disgust. “You don’t know they’re doing any such thing.” Jayne snorted. “And you think you’re the smart one, huh?” He shook his head. “Been going at it like monkeys since we got here.” He turned on his heel and walked back to the house. Left alone, Simon turned back and watched the two going through their training. That night, after a simple but filling evening meal, Simon stood from the table and stretched. “River, would you mind walking with me?” he asked. River looked over a Vos, who kept his face very still. “Okay.” she said. The two left the rest of the crew alone as they walked through the fields. Although it was late afternoon, with the omnipresent lighting it still appeared to be mid-day in the cavern. However, people were relaxing from their day, children were playing, and the atmosphere of the cave was peaceful. “How have you been holding up?” Simon asked as soon as he was sure they were far enough away from the house. “Any relapses or withdrawal symptoms?” River shook her head. “No. I feel…” She sighed and her face lit up with wonder. “I feel good. Like before. I know who I am. I know what I can do. And when things get confused, Quin’s there to help me.” “You like him a great deal.” She nodded absently and pulled at a tuft of grass that had lodged itself in the soil of the cave in a small tree-lined park across from the fields. Even with subsistence farming, the people of Shadow needed a semblance of nature to retreat to. “Have you slept with him?” he asked. “No,” River said. “We’ve just had sex. No sleeping.” Simon suddenly found himself gagging and doubled over coughing. He felt her hand on his back and suddenly stood up as a wave of warmth washed through his chest, easing the choking. He took a deep breath, and when he finally collected himself, said, “River, he’s so much older than you.” “Did you know he’s actually forty?” Simon admitted his surprise. “Scars aside, he doesn’t look a year past 30.” “His race don’t age as fast as mainline humans,” River said. Simon fought back another urge to start coughing. “His race?” “He’s a near-human called a Kiffar,” River said, her eyes sparkling with fascination. “Civilization in the galaxy is so old, Simon, that humans have actually divided into dozens and dozens of subspecies. He said he could easily live to be two hundred.” She smiled. “So, when you look at it like that he’s actually my age, in Kiffar years.” “River, you’re sleeping with an alien twice your age,” Simon said. “Do you know what the others will say?” She stood and studied her brother intently, and under that dark, knowing glance, Simon finally realized how incredibly different she was than the frightened, disturbed girl he saved from the Academy. It was as if this River were the realization of all the potential she showed as a child, before the Academy took it all from her. She very gently took his cheeks in her hands, pulled his head down, and kissed his brows just as their mother did when they were very young. “I love you, Simon,” she said. “You saved my life. And I will always thank you for that. But Quin…” She turned and looked back at the house. Quin stood there, watching them from a distance. “Quin saved my soul, Simon. I love him.” Her eyes took on a liquid sparkle that he realized were tears. “I know I won’t be able to keep him long. But while I have him, I will love him as much as I can.” She looked back to her brother. “Please don’t try to stop that. Don’t judge. Be happy that I found happiness, even if only for a little while, before the darkness comes.” She spun away from him so quickly he didn’t realize she was gone until she was already halfway back to her lover. Simon stood stunned, staring after her. Finally, to himself and the air around him, he said, “I love you too, River.” * * * When the announcement came that the Alliance Second Fleet had arrived at New Melbourne, people left off their daily work and gathered around to watch. Mal and his crew stood near the back with the others, but the screen was large enough and high enough that none had trouble seeing. The wave was being sent real-time by subspace from the Cortex Interplanetary News. The CIN reporter was another young woman, again ridiculously attractive, with her vidman. They reported from the bridge of the I.A.V. Dortmunder. On tactical screens spread across the bridge of the massive carrier ship they could see the hundred other assembled ships of the Alliance fleet, including several other equally large carriers, gun boats, cruisers, assault ships and corvettes. It made the fleet gathered at Mr. Universe’s planet look miniscule in comparison. “We are just now coming into visual range of the first enemy vessels,” the reporter announced. “We are going to switch to external sensors.” The whole screen blinked and showed the glowing blue surface of the ocean-planet New Melbourne. In orbit around the planet was a massive fleet of ships unlike anything any of them had seen. The reporter verified that herself. “The ships are of an unknown design,” she said. “Alliance officials tell me that traditionally Reavers used older model ships. However, these ships are completely alien to anything we’ve seen before. Initial scans do not indicate any metal at all. However, from the brief reports we received from the surface of New Melbourne before all contact was lost, the attackers were definitely Reavers. Wait, we are approaching weapons range.” Mal felt a nudge and turned to see Inara sidling next to him. He wrapped an arm around her shoulders without hesitation. He noticed other couples throughout the crowd doing the same. He glanced behind his shoulder, and saw with a shock that Vos was holding River too, and that the young woman was nearly trembling with wide eyes. Mal turned and stepped toward her. “Mei-mei,” he whispered. “What’s wrong?” The others in the crew leaned forward. But she looked at Book. “Do you remember what I told you? Before we found Quin?” Book raised a brow at the use of the more familiar name, but nodded. “Is that what’s happening?” River pointed at the alien ships on the screen. “They are going to destroy us all. I was made into a weapon to try and fight them.” “The enemy ships have opened fire!” the reporter announced. “Officials are telling me the weapons fire is some type of plasma ball, almost like super-heated silica. And they are….oh my God.” The IAV Magellan exploded. The whole ship with thousands of crew and soldiers died under a barrage of the strangely glowing balls of destruction shot not just from the largest of the strange Reaver ships, but also from a swarm of smaller ones that zipped effortlessly among the Alliance ships. “All fighters have been launched. The Alliance fleet is returning fire with missiles, rail guns and directed energy weapons but with little effect. Oh no, another ship has been lost! And…The captain has just informed me that the Dortmunder is now under fire as well. We are attempting to evade the fire, but you can feel the decks shaking. It looks like we’ve….” The scene from the ship’s sensors showed a swarm of bumpy, tear-drop shaped fighters swarming forward, spitting out balls of fire from strange protuberances in their noses. The balls seemed to fly directly toward the sensors, and a moment later, the screen went blank. A full minute later, it blinked back to an image of the same shaken young woman with Asian features and blonde hair who first reported the story. “We will provide more details as soon as they are available,” she said. She then began the slow, lingering babble of news people with nothing to report. -----signature----- "Spock!" "Yes Captain!" "Be one with the horse." "Yes, Captain." Gods of Dark and Light Legacy of the Red Sun Heaven Falls: A Jedi On Earth Blue Sun Down
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callista_gseran Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 3/24 7:18am Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/24/2008
	Eeeeep! I know the Yuuzhan Vong when I see them described..... Oh, River.... -----signature----- Callista Gseran Adoptee of Dev_Binks
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cggunnersmate Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 3/24 8:33am Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/24/2008
	EEEP! It's the Vong! Now I'm really confused as to your time frame. The Vong had made limited scouting missions into the SW galaxy for decades but as far as I know the largest military action they took prior to the invasion was the raid on Zonama Sekot. How long was Quinlan frozen? Hmm...and who is going to help them? They're in a single (though densely populated) star system and the Vong conquered dozens of systems in a matter weeks/months. They're also way behind the rest of the SW galaxy's technology, how can they hold them off? Well now I'm on the edge of my seat! -----signature----- "I got him! I got him!" Chris Griffin as Luke Skywalker "Great Kid! Don't get penisy!" Peter Griffin as Han Solo (Blue Harvest)
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TigerofRobare Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 3/24 9:48am Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/24/2008
	The Alliance doesn't stand a chance. Not even River and Vos could deal with an entire invasion. It might actually be a good thing for the Empire to arrive. How can the Alliance be using subspace? It doesn't have FTL technology. -----signature----- Darth Hipster--Vader becomes a hippie!: http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=27316525&brd=10476 Tu ne cede malis--Do not give in to evil, but procede against it ever more boldly. UMass-Amherst class of 2011!
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Golden_Jedi Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 3/24 2:19pm Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/24/2008
	“River, you’re sleeping with an alien twice your age,” Simon said. “Do you know what the others will say?” She stood and studied her brother intently, and under that dark, knowing glance, Simon finally realized how incredibly different she was than the frightened, disturbed girl he saved from the Academy. It was as if this River were the realization of all the potential she showed as a child, before the Academy took it all from her. She very gently took his cheeks in her hands, pulled his head down, and kissed his brows just as their mother did when they were very young. “I love you, Simon,” she said. “You saved my life. And I will always thank you for that. But Quin…” She turned and looked back at the house. Quin stood there, watching them from a distance. “Quin saved my soul, Simon. -----signature----- The country is that place where chickens walk around uncooked - Julio Cortázar Unexpected Blossom http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28693266 Sailing Little Boats http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28747916
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GraceSolo Registered: Oct '06	Date Posted: 3/24 2:25pm Subject: RE: Blue Sun Down: A Star Wars/Firefly Crossover --Updated 3/24/2008 - Date Edited: 3/24 2:26pm (1 edits total) Edited By: GraceSolo
	Ohhh, it’s the Vong!!! Look out! I just finished reading the New Jedi Order series, and I agree with cggunnersmate. I don’t see how the Alliance will have the ability and/or the technology to repel the Vong. It will be interesting to see what Quin and River can contribute to the fight against the Vong. Also, the timeline is seeming a little strange, unless the Vong are on the scouting mission where they found Zonama Sekot, because the Emperor Palpitine is still alive and waiting for River to join him. All in all, it was a great post. It is so great to have several updates to read at once!! Please keep me on the PM list, Darth Real Life has been a major pain in the you-know-where lately… and reading your story is a great relief!!! Keep up the great work!! And let me know if you need that Beta help, I am still avalible, just PM me!! -----signature----- 'I walk slowly, but I never walk backwards'--Abraham Lincoln 'Not only do I not know what is going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did'--George Carlin
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