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DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 7/11/05 2:25pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
Shadow_of_Evil posted:
I guess there wasn't much consideration with the wear and tear-weight ratio.
My mate said he didn't really like the short barrel on the AUG, I guess the SA80 has the same issues.
Anyhoo, I wasn't aware that they may be changing the standard firearm issue to the ADF troops, kind of confusing if they plan to do that while they are decking out the SE troops with modified AUGs.



Yeah, a short barrel on an AUG kinda defeats the purpose of a bullpup-to have a long barrel and a short o/a length, iirc.

And I'm finally back on the SAW-no more dinky M4 and radio for me grin

 

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Shadow_of_Evil 
Registered: Nov '01
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Date Posted: 7/11/05 8:38pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
And I'm finally back on the SAW-no more dinky M4 and radio for me

Awsome. One of my mates who served in East Timor was a SAW gunner...seams to have worked damn good for him happy

 

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DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 7/12/05 6:03am Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
Shadow_of_Evil posted:
And I'm finally back on the SAW-no more dinky M4 and radio for me

Awsome. One of my mates who served in East Timor was a SAW gunner...seams to have worked damn good for him happy


Ayuh. I've got an Elcan 3x optic on it, too. Fully automatic sniper rifle-we did a qualification run on an M-240 range with targets from 3 to 800 metres and I hit the 800 both times it came up.

That said, the Elcan outright sucks compared to an ACOG-I have to aim really low & left for to hit with my Elcan. But as the ACOG doesn't adapt terribly well to the SAW, Elcan it is.

 

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Shadow_of_Evil 
Registered: Nov '01
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Date Posted: 7/12/05 7:11am Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology - Date Edited: 7/12/05 7:11am (1 edits total) Edited By: Shadow_of_Evil
What unit do you serve in, in the military?

EDIT:
If I may ask happy

 

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DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 7/12/05 9:39am Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
Shadow_of_Evil posted:
What unit do you serve in, in the military?

EDIT:
If I may ask happy


A Co 2-22 INF, 10th Mtn division. The red-headed stepchild of the army :P

 

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cal_silverstar 
Registered: Jul '02
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Date Posted: 7/13/05 1:25pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
Military's energy-beam weapons delayed

Hopefully we'll be able to utilize this sooner rather than later. It would be sweet.

 

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VadersLaMent 
Registered: Apr '02
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Date Posted: 7/13/05 2:09pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
The most promising version I have ever read about involves using the laser beam to ionized the air which generates a huge electric shock, like getting hit with a laser guided lightning bolt.

 

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DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 10/15/06 5:36pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
*Bump*

well, with an iraq deployment behind me, I'd figure I'd drop a post on some of the new odds and ends we picked up.


Firstly, the CROWS:

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The Common Remotely Operated Weapon System, (CROWS), is a remote-control weapon system that can currently be mounted to a variety of vehicles, including the M1114 and M1116 up-armored HMMWV and the M1117 Armored Security Vehicle. It is produced by Recon Optical (Barrington, IL, USA).


It composed of two parts: the mount itself and the CROWS control group. The mount is capable of 360 degree azimuth rotation and -20 to +60 degree elevation. It facilitates the operation of a variety of crew-served wapons, including the M2 HB .50-cal Machine Gun, the Mk19 40-mm Automatic Grenade Machine Gun, the M240B 7.62-mm MG and M249 Squad Automatic Weapon. The sensor unit, mounted to the right of the weapon, icludes a daylight video camera, a thermal imager for night operations, and an eye-safe laser rangefinder. It is also furnished with a fully integrated fire control system that provides ballistic correction.

The CROWS control group mounts inside the vehicle, behind the driver's seat. It includes a display unit, switch panel unit, and joystick to provide full remote control of the weapon system. This enables the fighting crew to operate from inside armored combat vehicles, while still carrying out patrols, acquiring targets, and firing a variety of weapons more efficiently.

The first CROWS were fielded in 2005 in Iraq, employed by Special Forces, military police, infantry and transport units. So far, more than 200 units have been fielded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CROWS

I didn't get to use this, although we had 4 in our company (1 per platoon). It's a nice idea-the regular turret on the Humvee blows, frankly-no overhead cover, so not only are you exposed to people above you, you're hot and sweaty all the time. tongue

The only gripe I heard from our CROW gunner was that it's not very quick to rotate.

 

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Mr44 
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Registered: May '02
Date Posted: 1/26 2:11pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
This weekend, the US Air Force announced that live fire trials have been completed on a previously unseen ramjet powered air to surface missile.

Using the ramjet, the missile achieves a speed of up to 3850MPH, or in other terms, it can lock on and hit a target that is 2Km away in about one second.

It's part of a new family of anti-radar missiles, although I wonder what other areas the ramjet technology is being applied to?

 

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darthdrago 
Registered: Dec '03
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Date Posted: 1/26 2:20pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
So is this just a missile that only the USAF will use, excluding Navy and Marines? Carrier battle groups would probably want to get in on this.

I'm wondering if this is the sort of thing that Taiwan or maybe even Japan might be buying in the future...

 

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Mr44 
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Date Posted: 1/26 3:54pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
No, the USAF was just the test and evaluation agency, there's a version slated for the Navy. In fact, the current version, the AGM-88E series was developed under Navy requirements.

Typically, the US doesn't export its latest technology except in very rare circumstances, so I'd imagine Taiwan and the like would be out.

 

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Chancellor_Ewok 
Registered: Nov '04
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Date Posted: 1/27 12:54pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
VadersLaMent posted:
The most promising version I have ever read about involves using the laser beam to ionized the air which generates a huge electric shock, like getting hit with a laser guided lightning bolt.


That sounds, unpleasant, but also kind of cool.

 

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DarthBoba 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 1/29 7:57am Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
Yeah, good for surly crowds. Better than rubber bullets and sticks, anyway.

 

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Adm_Thrawn 
Registered: Dec '04
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Date Posted: 2/2 11:00pm Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology
Oh, Lord, no!

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2004/08/mil-040819-usmc01.htm

Talk of the M4A1 contaminating my beloved Corps! Units in Iraq have already started issuing the carbine to officers and SNCOs (particularly Platoon Commanders and Platoon Sergeants in Victor units) in place of the M9 sidearm they had been given in previous combat tours, which is perfectly fine because I know I'd rather have an M4 over a 9mm pop-gun, but there's talk of the M4 possibly replacing the M16 as it has with the Army. Say it ain't so. With all the negative feedback that comes back from Iraq and A-stan every year on the M4A1, you'd think the US military would be looking into and investing in future alternatives *cough*HK416*cough*, but instead they're putting them into as many hands as they can. I guess because they've bought so damn many, they've got to do something with them.

 

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Registered: May '02
Date Posted: 2/3 2:32am Subject: RE: The Weekly Discussion of Military Technology - Date Edited: 2/3 3:35am (1 edits total) Edited By: Mr44
I say it's about time.

While any weapon is going to have its faults, the M4 has the highest satisfaction rating of any weapon system fielded, except for the M249 SAW. The 2006 "Soldiers' Perspective on Small Arms in Combat" survey found that combat veterans of both Iraq and Afghanistan approved of the M4 almost 9 out of 10 times because of 1)it's CQB properties, 2)it's accuracy, and 3)it's modular adaptability.

In fact, the SAS issues the M4 as an alternative to the standard rifle used by British troops, and the Australian SASR just recently started fielding the M4 after having problems with their AUG's.

Most of the complaints with the M4 have to do with the NATO-standardized caliber and not the weapon. The NATO "green tip" penetrator round is what tends to zip through soft targets without stopping. The HK416, while piston operated, still would have to use the same round and it would not provide any increased benefit to this area. Basically, the HK416 represents an expensive alternative to what a troop with a toothbrush can do already. Besides, the SCAR already beat out the HK for Special Operations use, and it would make no sense to have 3 different weapons systems.

 

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