Rogue_Ten posted:Genocide: It's no mere massacre - it's the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a racial or ethnic group. There's your answer right there in his post. Furthermore, Genocide is defined by international law. "Massacre" is just a term.
chibiangi posted:Turkey needs to give it a rest and America needs to grow a pair and recognize what happened for what it was, political ramifications with Turkey be damned. There is a time when we need to do the right thing, and the right thing is to acknowledge the Armenian genocide.
Espaldapalabras posted: I could not disagree more. As horrible as the genocide was, it has absolutely no relevance to me or our national interest. We can do good if the price is low, but this time to price of making a stand is too great. The American Armenians that are pushing for this should shut up because if we do pass this resolution against past wrongs then we will have more American and Iraqi blood on our hands.
ShaneP posted:Well then shame on me. This is a calculated attempt to try and poison something, anything, related to Iraw.
Jansons_Funny_Twin posted:Hmm, maybe if we threatened Turkey right back by withdrawing any support we give them. I'm sure that'd hurt their economy and chances of EU membership enough that they would reconsider their stance. Do we need them? I'm sure we do. Will it cost us? It just might. But I think if they try to strong-arm us, we can show that we can do more damage to them than vice versa. To deny genocide because it's politically expedient is nothing more than tacit consent, and I for one refuse to be a party to it. Shame on anyone who will be.
chibiangi posted:Exactly. I am not Armenian. I have no stake in this other than the belief that it is wrong for us not to acknowledge what happened to these people because it isn't beneficial politically. Do you seriously think that if this gets swept under the rug that Turkey won't continue attacks on the Kurds? It's a convenient excuse, but they are intent on doing what they want and we have enough political power and resources to hit back. And again, the blood in Iraq is on Bush's hands. Not the Armenians.
