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Mr44 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/9/04 7:22am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	For a lighter note (and I'll bet OWM gets a particular kick out of this): Rumors persist that former Chicago Bears Coach Mike Ditka is being courted take Ryan's place for the Senate race.. So far, nothing offical has been released, and it is being dismissed, but it makes for interesting speculation. Senator Ditka? People seem to like their celebrity politicians, that's for sure.... -----signature----- When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who makes a move- hostile or otherwise He has started to think and is therefore dangerous... -- Colonel "Paddy" Mayne, co-founder of the SAS
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sellars1996 Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 7/9/04 7:39am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	Tom Osborne was elected to Congress in Nebraska ... Schwarzenegger in CA ... Steve Largent ... now Ditka. We like jocks in the GOP. All we need now is for OJ to throw his hat in the ring somewhere and the 2004 elections will become an Official Media Circus. -----signature----- Every married father's wish ... to live as well as his wife and children. The kindest words ever said about a lawyer: well, at least he didn't run for Congress.
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Mr44 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/9/04 7:47am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	We like jocks in the GOP. yep...it is a party of Gippers, and everything that represents. (no, really.... ..) -----signature----- When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who makes a move- hostile or otherwise He has started to think and is therefore dangerous... -- Colonel "Paddy" Mayne, co-founder of the SAS
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Obi-Wan McCartney Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 7/9/04 7:55am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	Man, I can just see the Super-Friends from SNL having a field day with SENATOR DITKA! (WHo would win in a Senate race, Ditka or the late Mother Teresa...DITKA!) -----signature----- God Bless J-Rod's Wife! Obi-Wan McCartney: Model Forum Member since 1999! America's Beatles are far better than England's precious Rolling Stones
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Gonk Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 7/9/04 8:50am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	Trust me, I'm from here - people generally despise Kerry (except for Orleans parish). If tue, this would be an example why many of the other communities both in america and north of the Border think the south is just crazy, especially west of Texas. You despise Kerry? For what, exactly? Because he's a Liberal? Do you have any reasons specifically relating to Kerry or is it all bunched up into this stereotype? There are people perhaps that despise Bush. But they've lived under a Bush presidency for four years. KErry has done... what, exactly? If you're hating Kerry at this stage of the game before he's actually DONE anything I figure your community's got a few wires crossed upstairs. It's not unlike how communities in the Middle East -- for the sake of argument those NOT connected to terrorists -- hate any given American without knowing anything about them as individuals. Ah, stereotypes a'plenty! -----signature----- What shall we do to fill the empty spaces Where waves of hunger gnaw? Shall we set out upon this sea of faces In search of more and more and more?
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Galahad_Skywalker Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 7/9/04 9:14am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	The problem with Kerry is that he has flip-flopped on almost every topic that is important in this election. He voted for the Patriot Act and to send troops into Iraq, and now he's changed his stances on those issues, pretending as if those votes never happened. What's more, he's continuing to blast Bush on the economy, despite the fact that the economy is at last starting on an upswing. I don't attribute the upswing to Bush, but it seems an improper time to be bemoaning the condition of the economy when things are actually beginning to look up. On a personal level, I see Kerry as stiff and detached from the average American, for whose vote he continues to court as if he's one of them, which he simply isn't. But I'm not a Bush supporter, either, so I'm not trying to simply spout out Pro-Bush propaganda. There's only one way I would've voted for either Bush or Kerry, and that would've been if either one had secured John McCain or someone like him as his running mate. My perspective right now: Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Sharpe's Enemy, by Bernard Cornwell
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Mr44 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/9/04 9:21am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	So, when John McCain ran before, why didn't he garner the nomination? -----signature----- When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who makes a move- hostile or otherwise He has started to think and is therefore dangerous... -- Colonel "Paddy" Mayne, co-founder of the SAS
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TI1420 Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 7/9/04 9:22am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	There's no substantive difference between the two "choices" we're getting.... the "two" parties seem these days to be two fingers on the same velvet-gloved fist. It's like Coke vs. Pepsi. Not much difference. There should be a bumper sticker that says "Bush/Kerry 2004". -----signature----- TK-1420 "Bulls Eye" www.stargarrison.com www.501st.com
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QuanarReg Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 7/9/04 9:47am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	President Bush is going to be stoping at the very small town that I live in, and I just got tickets for the event this morning, so that this should be interesting. So on tuesday I will actually be meeting with the President. Hmm, what should I ask him... -----signature----- George W. Bush-Saving your ass whether you like it or not. "300,000 Yankees is stiff in Southern dust, we got 300,000 before they conquered us, they died of Southern fever and Southern steel and shot, I wish it was 3 million instead of what we got."
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ShaneP Title: Lucasfilm Projects Gremlin(Manager ) Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 7/9/04 10:36am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread - Date Edited: 7/9/04 10:49am (4 edits total) Edited By: ShaneP
	TI, got that right. Both parties pander to specific, and narrow, interest groups. Senator Ditka: Dis bill 'ere is da' good stuff. Supporr dit like me. Id'll get 'da job done. EDIT Here's a interesting story. Just one more example of how both presidential candidates hang around the same corporate class: Enron's Lay tied to the Bushs AND Kerrys What hollow shells these parties are for the corporate pigs at government troughs. Here's a story with a happy ending though. Off-topic but....... Poor little kitty -----signature----- Keep Your Words Sweet. You May Have To Eat Them.
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JediSmuggler Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 7/9/04 10:46am Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	What will be interesting is how the Radio City event plays out. Note - John F. Kerry said he did not have time for a security briefing - and went to this raunchy event instead. I admit, I like listening ot Howard Stern on occasion. I also enjoy some... notorious rap songs. But for soemone to blow off a security briefing to attend this event? For every smart move Kerry makes (like choosing Edwards), he makes one or two dumb ones (blowing off the security briefing - then going to this raunchy event). -----signature----- The military-industrial complex has kept America strong and safe.
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Obi-Wan McCartney Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 7/9/04 12:11pm Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	He was stupid to SAY he was too busy. Politically this looks bad just as say politically Bush's seven minute blunder looks bad, but we both seem to think that a fair look at our guy would result in the conclusion that nothing terrible occurred. Mr. 44, as far as Bush winning the nomination is concerned, don't open that can of worms! The establishment crushed McCain, Bush outspent him and had the establishment connections, heck is anyone serving in Bush's administration that WASN'T a major player in the last three or four republican administrations? (I know there are, but you get my point). And don't forget the dirty, miserable slime-ball tactics the GOP used to crush McCain. Not just outspending him and putting negative attack ads, but spreading false rumors that McCain fathered illegimate black children, in pivotal and conservative districts. John McCain is I'm sure still resentful. -----signature----- God Bless J-Rod's Wife! Obi-Wan McCartney: Model Forum Member since 1999! America's Beatles are far better than England's precious Rolling Stones
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 7/9/04 12:43pm Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread
	Well said, OWM. Karl Rove and his minions rewrote the record books with their smear tactics against McCain. I don't doubt for a minute that McCain would have easily beaten Gore, as polls indicated in the primary season. -----signature----- "Nothing but the rain."
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sellars1996 Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 7/9/04 1:02pm Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread - Date Edited: 7/9/04 1:03pm (1 edits total) Edited By: sellars1996
	Nah, Republicans don't run nasty campaigns. Lee Atwater is responsible for much of the juvenile level of our current political discourse. -----signature----- Every married father's wish ... to live as well as his wife and children. The kindest words ever said about a lawyer: well, at least he didn't run for Congress.
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ShaneP Title: Lucasfilm Projects Gremlin(Manager ) Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 7/9/04 1:08pm Subject: RE: Official 2004 US Elections Thread - Date Edited: 7/9/04 1:10pm (1 edits total) Edited By: ShaneP
	Nasty campaigning goes back alot further than Lee Atwater. Atwater also created the "big tent" idea that brought a working-class and wall street majority to the republican party. -----signature----- Keep Your Words Sweet. You May Have To Eat Them.
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