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GreedoCMZ  2800 posts
Registered: Mar '99
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 1:45pm Subject: Flu Shot Theory
How the vaccine works:

Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact with the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before it has a chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely strains to be active during the "flu season"

Why the shortage: Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year.
Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently
British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the vaccine when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the vaccine were recalled and destroyed.

Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?
The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the
late 80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu. The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a US company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5 million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.

By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.

 

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MetalGoldKnight  1189 posts
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 3:57pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
Isn't there a rule against making 'bait and hook' threads like this on the Senate forum?

 

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werewook  278 posts
Registered: Oct '04
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 4:01pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
Why do most people even take the flu shot? I hve never had one and neither has any other member of my family. We get mild cases of the flu every year but no worse than those who take the shot.

 

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J-Rod  7700 posts
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 4:02pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
LOL Brilliant!!!!!!!!!

 

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JMZ  1983 posts
Registered: Aug '03
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 4:03pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
I'm with werewook. I don't understand the hype about this flu shot "crisis" we're in. I mean, I understand why they give it to seniors and people who can potentially die from it, but......

It's JUST the FLU, people!

 

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Darth_Skycrawler  1242 posts
Registered: Apr '04
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 4:04pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory - Date Edited: 10/25/04 4:06pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Skycrawler
Same here. i have never taken a flu shot. I sometimes get the flu and sometimes I dont. I have known people who have taken the flu shot and gotten sick from that.

I think it is good for your if your immune system fights of some of the virus's of the world.



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Jedi_Rhysode  336 posts
Registered: Jan '04
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 4:24pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
I personally dont care for the flu vaccine. But I can imagine elderly people and small children benefiting from it a lot more than me. I think that's who it's mainly made for.

 

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Kimball_Kinnison  12524 posts
Registered: Oct '01
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 4:27pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
It's JUST the FLU, people!

Try googling for the 1918 flu pandemic, and look at how deadly that was.

Kimball Kinnison

 

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Darth_Skycrawler  1242 posts
Registered: Apr '04
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 4:31pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory - Date Edited: 10/25/04 4:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Skycrawler
I dont think even a flu vaccine would have helped that. I think eventually there will be another flu strain that takes us by surprise and creates an epidemic.

I have heard that if we keep vaccinating ourselves that that makes the flu come back even stronger?

is that true?

 

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Darth Fierce  4360 posts
Registered: Feb '00
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 6:55pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
"It's JUST the FLU, people! "

I echo Kimball's sentiments here. Influenza is not just a bad cold. It can be a very serious disease.

 

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werewook  278 posts
Registered: Oct '04
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 8:40pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
Influenza is not just a bad cold. It can be a very serious disease.

I have never come across anyone who has even had a case where they were laid up for a few days. When I get it I just sleep, eat soup, watch TV, throw up and repeat until it's over.

 

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Darth_Skycrawler  1242 posts
Registered: Apr '04
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Date Posted: 10/25/04 8:45pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
I have never come across anyone who has even had a case where they were laid up for a few days

Me neither, although I think it could be deadly for the elderly.

 

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liberalmaverick  708 posts
Registered: Feb '04
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Date Posted: 10/26/04 12:00pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
GreedoCMZ, can you provide a link or a reference of some kind, so we know you're not just making this up? I never heard this story before.

 

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Jabbadabbado  13729 posts
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Date Posted: 10/26/04 12:24pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory - Date Edited: 10/26/04 12:26pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jabbadabbado
It's an email rumor circulating right now. He quoted it verbatim, but it amounts to an urban legend - sort of like the one where you wake up in your hotel room with your kidneys missing, only politicized. Edwards was never involved in such a case.

The real issue with flu shots is that no one knows what version(s) of the virus is (are) going to circulate in a given year. So virologists make an educated guess for an anti-flu vaccine cocktail. If they guess wrong, the flu vaccine is virtually useless.

 

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Kimball_Kinnison  12524 posts
Registered: Oct '01
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Date Posted: 10/26/04 12:28pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
Snopes link on the email.

Kimball Kinnison

 

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Guinastasia  10408 posts
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Date Posted: 10/26/04 1:58pm Subject: RE: Flu Shot Theory
I have never come across anyone who has even had a case where they were laid up for a few days. When I get it I just sleep, eat soup, watch TV, throw up and repeat until it's over.

You probably didn't have the flu then-instead, an intestinal infection or a bad cold.

What most people call "the flu" is simply a severe cold. Influenza is deadly, even to seemingly healthy people.

In fact, the Spanish Flu pandemic killed MORE people than the first World War.

I might have had the flu, maybe once that I can think of, when I was about nine years old, and I could barely move off of the sofa. I remember that hideous fever feeling-freezing from chills, but still being flushed from my fever, my throat was on fire, I could hardly breath. Ugh. And even then, I think it was a pretty mild one.

 

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