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Darth Mischievous
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Date Posted:
12/2/07 10:18pm
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RE: Official News Of the Day Thread Now discussing - Australian Election Results
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In other news:
Down goes Chavez!
In response,
[King Juan Carlos]  [/King Juan Carlos]
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Espaldapalabras
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12/3/07 12:51am
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RE: Official News Of the Day Thread Now discussing - Australian Election Results
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reveille blaring from speakers mounted on cruising trucks.
 I couldn't imagine a Latin American election without them.
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You think that is annoying? How about 4 months of it blaring everywhere you go and all night long?
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GrandAdmiralPelleaon
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12/3/07 4:21am
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I don't think you can call 49 to 51 "going down", it's more like a photo finish.
I still think Chavez catches more critism than is merited.
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ObiWan506
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12/3/07 5:36am
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I'm still waiting for him to blame his loss on the US so he can use another one of his silly rhetorics about how he'll stop selling oil to us. That obviously won't happen.
Did anybody see the sample ballot form? He was going to win by bundling up amendments in two voting blocks; hoping to confuse and entice voters. I believe one of the amendments bundled in with his 'can be elected forever' amendment was a shorter work day (Eight hours to six). Talk about enticing votes.
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ObiWan506
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12/6/07 12:47pm
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That didn't take long
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Ender_Sai
Title: Manager Emeritus
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12/6/07 2:18pm
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GrandAdmiralPelleaon posted:
I don't think you can call 49 to 51 "going down", it's more like a photo finish.
I still think Chavez catches more critism than is merited.
Absolutely, he's a hero just like el Che! 
http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10252006
"Ordinary Venezuelans note that they cannot buy milk even when oil is close to $90 a barrel."
Viva la revolucion?
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Ender_Sai
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12/12/07 12:52pm
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You know when you see a child do something that they shouldn't, they see you watching and say, "I didn't do it"?
What if that child was the Government of a sovereign state?
General's killing rocks Lebanon
There's been another bomb-blast in the captial of the Lebanon, Beiruit, in which a top ranking, independent general, Brig. Gen. Francois Al-Hajj was killed. Al-Hajj was expected to replace outgoing, pro-Syrian army chief General Suleiman when the latter is put forward as a consensus candidate President.
The situation in the Lebanon has been brittle for some time, longer than the assassination of Rafik al-Hariri which sparked the Cedar Revolution (and prompted pro-Bush Americans, even on this board, to take credit  ) as Syrian has sought to impose itself upon its smaller neighbour.
But this is ridiculous. Five parliamentarians have died in the past year, and get this: they're all independent (i.e. not pro-Syrian control of the Lebanon). Syria's response is to invoke Bart Simpson, "I didn't do it". Despite being found culpable in Mr al Hariri's death.
/sigh
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Darth-Ghost
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2/17 4:46pm
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So, Kosovo declared independence today from Serbia.
Russia cannot be happy about this, but I don't think any joint Serbian-Russian military action will take place, especially since there are some 16 thousands NATO soldiers still there. I don't think this was a wise move or that the West should have gotten so involved in its independence, since (as I understand it) basically the minority Muslim Albanians became the majority population in Kosovo within the last few decades, and after the war in the 90's they've been under NATO control and wanted independence, despite Kosovo being historic part of Serbia. It makes as much sense for California to secede from the U.S. because it's mostly Hispanic now, it sets a very bad precedent that different people can't coexist in the same country. It's so hypocritical of us since we are the United States, it's basically become one of the things we stand for (we fought a civil war to stay together too), yet we supported Kosovo's independence instead. So, who's looking forward to Scotland declaring independence in about 5 years, or more instability in Chechnya, or the partition of Iraq (and we all know how the partitions of Korea, Vietnam, India, and Palestine have gone). And we're approaching the 100th anniversary of WW1, which happened to break out in the Balkans, where Serbia and Kosovo and a few other tiny countries stand now. I just have a very bad feeling about this.
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Espaldapalabras
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2/17 6:20pm
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Frankly when the majority population starts the genocide, they don't have too much room to complain when the people they were trying to wipe off the map a few years ago decide to leave and take their land with them.
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Mmm, I dunno. On one hand, the Kosovo region does happen to be the property of the Serbian government. However, it doesn't seem to me like that government ever had in mind the interests of the people who lived there, so maybe this is justified.
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SnorreSturluson
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2/18 5:38am
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Espaldapalabras posted:
Frankly when the majority population starts the genocide, they don't have too much room to complain when the people they were trying to wipe off the map a few years ago decide to leave and take their land with them.
Genocide? All the reports I read about 1998/99 do not back the claims that there was something like "genocide". It was a bloody civil war with the Serbian forces dramatically overreacting. But some years later they could have called that "war on terror" (and indeed there are even claims that Al Qaeda and the KLA cooperated to some extend).
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Lord_Vivec
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I don't see how we can't recognize Kosovo's independence. After all, how did we become a country again?
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How did the Confederate States of America not become a country?
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon
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Jediflyer posted:
How did the Confederate States of America not become a country?
Because 'stayts rahts' (AKA slavery) isn't a legitimate reason for secession.
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king_alvarez
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:
Jediflyer posted:
How did the Confederate States of America not become a country?
Because 'stayts rahts' (AKA slavery) isn't a legitimate reason for secession.
Not that I necessarily disagree with you here (I haven't completely decided how I feel about the Kosovo situation), but what threshold do you feel needs to be crossed in order to validate secession?
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