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An Inconvenient Thread: Causes and Effects of Global Warming
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J-Rod
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Jul '04
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5/1 5:56am
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RE: An Inconvenient Thread: Causes and Effects of Global Warming
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Here's an explaination for the lowering of temeratures. Now, it seems to me to be damage control as the cooling has already started and this seems like a "prediction."
How can you legitamately "predict" something that has already started.
Man-made global warming=myth.
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Rogue_Follower
Title: Manager: Literature
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5/1 7:28am
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Er, they say the cooling would be temporary.
``If we don't experience warming over the next 10 years, it doesn't mean that greenhouse-gas warming is not with us,'' Keenlyside said in an interview. ``There can be natural fluctuations that may mask climate change in the short term.''
I'd have to do further research, but it sounds like they're saying that the natural ocean cycles would conceal or temporarily reduce the effects of carbon dioxide emissions on climate change in the short term. Though warming would "win" in the end.
Also, you can predict the progression of an event, even after it's started. They're not predicting that it will happen, they're predicting how it will happen.
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J-Rod
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5/1 7:31am
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It sounds to be like they are buying themselves 10 years of global warming behavour while the Earth is busy proving that there is no global warming.
That's what it sounds like to me.
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Souderwan
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6/6 2:22pm
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Want to slow global warming? No problem. Got a spare #45 trillion in your sock?
lol.
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Jansons_Funny_Twin
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6/6 3:51pm
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RE: An Inconvenient Thread: Causes and Effects of Global Warming
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Souderwan posted:
Want to slow global warming? No problem. Got a spare #45 trillion in your sock?
lol.
Now this is what I'm talking about. No one giving this namby-pamby 5% decrease crap. 50% decrease! Yes!
Because, if you buy into some of the hype, it seems like a 5% decrease amounts to nothing (or maybe delaying the outcome for a few hours).
But a 50% decrease, that's the ticket!
On a more serious note...
What I'm asking here is what I've asked before: what needs to be done to save the world?
If decreasing man-made greenhouse gas emissions by 5% will reverse (or drastically slow down) global warming, then what does that say about the idea that global warming is mostly man-made? What does it say about the supposedly dire situation that we are in?
Conversely, if 5% isn't enough to reverse (or drastically slow down) global warming, then why are we pussy-footing around for? Why aren't there calls for a 50% or 75% decrease in greenhouse gas emissions in the next decade or so? Are we doomed, and just pretending that we're doing something about it?
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Souderwan
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6/6 5:00pm
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Yeah. That's kinda how I feel about it.
Personally, I'm not exactly moved by the AGW postulation. But that's a scientific question, not a political one. So let's just stipulate that it's all true. If that's the case, what should we do?--that's a political question.
If you accept the theories as presented, then you can't stop it. It's going to happen. Your best hope is to delay it by a decade or so (even cutting greenhouse gas emissions by 50% by 2050 would only delay the inevitable by about 50 yrs or so). In that case, one needs to evaluate what it would cost (and I don't just mean in dollars) to achieve this delay and compare it what it would cost to adapt to the inevitable.
This is the first time I've seen anyone actually do a real cost analysis for dealing with AGW. $45,000,000,000,000 over 40 years.
Ok. Who's going to pony up? Time to put our money where our mouths are. Assuming that the US covers 25% of the annual bill (we're responsible for 25% of the greenhouse gases, so that only seems fair), we'd be averaging about $9,000/per American/yr. Piece of cake. Why isn't everyone volunteering for this?
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Neo-Paladin
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6/7 7:22am
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J-Rod posted:
Here's an explaination for the lowering of temeratures. Now, it seems to me to be damage control as the cooling has already started and this seems like a "prediction."
How can you legitamately "predict" something that has already started.
Man-made global warming=myth.
Just so we're clear, the climatologists are not united around this conclusion, though it was printed in Nature has had a lot of attention in the media. The NASA GISS folks in particular seem skeptical.
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WhiteWolf
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6/16 5:24pm
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You pretty much have to be a martian to believe in anthropogenic global warming.
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Lowbacca_1977
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Date Posted:
6/16 6:31pm
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That really doesn't indicate anything though. Its seperate situations.
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Rogue_Follower
Title: Manager: Literature
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Date Posted:
6/25 3:27pm
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RE: An Inconvenient Thread: Causes and Effects of Global Warming
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Stuff like this is why we have not made as much progress as we could have during the past few years. It's the equivalent of putting one's fingers into one's ears and loudly singing "La la la la la!"
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