Author Topic: Free Trade vs Protectionism
darthdrago 
Registered: Dec '03
14017_Mask of Doom
Date Posted: 1/3 11:16am Subject: RE: Free Trade vs Protectionism - Date Edited: 1/3 11:19am (1 edits total) Edited By: darthdrago
dizfactor posted:
I can't believe he said he would ban Chinese toys. I mean, seriously, that may have been the dumbest thing I've ever heard a presidential candidate say. Ever.

Surely you haven't forgotten Freedom Fries?

Granted, a toy ban is econimically disastrous, but the Freedom Fries flap is definitely sillier than a Chinese toy ban. flag




EDIT: "Liberty Measles". Oh. My. Gawdddd.

 

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Jabbadabbado 
Title: Senate Floor Moderator
Registered: Mar '99
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Date Posted: 1/3 12:42pm Subject: RE: Free Trade vs Protectionism - Date Edited: 1/3 12:45pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jabbadabbado
If Chinese manufacturers can't keep lead off their toys, we should not be importing them. Does anyone really disagree with this?

Once our customs inspectors or consumer advocates, etc., have noted the problem, it seems to me the burden shifts to the Chinese to enforce product quality. Or else.

Obviously, there are other ways to take care of the problem, too. Start jailing Wal-Mart executives for every tainted product sold, for example.

 

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Ender_Sai 
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered: Feb '01
44324_Kyle Katarn
Date Posted: 1/3 3:24pm Subject: RE: Free Trade vs Protectionism
Or instead of pissing the easily affronted Chinese off with a gesture designed to humiliate them, try working with them. I know Obama's a diplomatic infant, but often engagement is better than lofty dictations of expected protocol.

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Jabbadabbado 
Title: Senate Floor Moderator
Registered: Mar '99
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Date Posted: 1/4 4:54am Subject: RE: Free Trade vs Protectionism
Engagement is almost always better. Hopefully Obama understands this despite the rhetoric. If you're looking for the most efficient cost-avoider in terms of policing product quality, it's likely to be a partnership between exporters, distributors, retailers, customs inspectors, manufacturers and the Chinese govt. But pressure from a White House administration to solve the problem under threat of heavy-handed action is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

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Ender_Sai 
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered: Feb '01
44324_Kyle Katarn
Date Posted: 1/4 6:28am Subject: RE: Free Trade vs Protectionism
US-China relations are already still pretty touchy, so yeah, you actually want gloves on and kiddie steps more than anything.

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LeiaFlip 
Registered: Jul '07
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Date Posted: 1/8 4:50pm Subject: RE: Free Trade vs Protectionism - Date Edited: 1/8 4:56pm (1 edits total) Edited By: LeiaFlip
Jabbadabbado posted:
If Chinese manufacturers can't keep lead off their toys, we should not be importing them. Does anyone really disagree with this?


I disagree if you're implying that it's the Chinese manufacturers who are at fault.

A reason why they use toxic products in their goods is because of the pressure placed on them by their employers--the oh-so-wonderful multinational corporations. MNCs hire only a small amount subcontractors in other countries (i.e., China) compared to the actual amount of factories bidding to be the subcontractor. The hired subcontractors, however, only receive a minimum "wage" from MNCs so with limited profit and a handful of other factories eager to replace them it's not surprising manufacturers cut corners instead of using high quality, toxic-free materials.

Jabbadabbado posted:
Obviously, there are other ways to take care of the problem, too. Start jailing Wal-Mart executives for every tainted product sold, for example.


That's a option happy , although it's rather unlikely to happen.

Edit: I was just kidding about Wal-Mart.

 

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