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Lowbacca_1977
Title: Senate Moderator
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Jun '06
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3/19 12:55am
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Fairly far. Other issue is getting out more energy than we put in.
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Jabbadabbado
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3/19 8:27am
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The joke about fusion power is that we're about 30 years away from commercialization. And we always will be.
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Jabbadabbado
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3/24 7:19am
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The Wall Street Journal is quickly becoming my favorite doomer newspaper.
New Limits to Growth Revive Malthusian Fears
This is all old news that you've heard from me before, but sometimes it helps to read it from a credible source.
In 2005, China had 15 passenger cars for every 1,000 people, close to the 13 cars per 1,000 that Japan had in 1963. Today, Japan has 447 passenger cars per 1,000 residents, 57 million in all. If China ever reaches that point, it would have 572 million cars -- 70 million shy of the number of cars in the entire world today.
China consumes 7.9 million barrels of oil a day. The U.S., with less than one quarter as many people, consumes 20.7 million barrels. "Demand will be going up, but it will be constrained by supply," ConocoPhillips Chief Executive Officer James Mulva has told analysts. "I don't think we are going to see the supply going over 100 million barrels a day, and the reason is: Where is all that going to come from?"
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Global Thirst
There are no substitutes for water, no easy alternatives to simple conservation. Despite advances, desalination remains costly and energy intensive. Throughout the world, water is often priced too low. Farmers, the biggest users, pay less than others, if they pay at all.
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Gonk
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Jul '98
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3/24 8:45am
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My advice:
Move to Canada.
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Jabbadabbado
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3/24 8:56am
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I know quite a few Austrians who have settled there. It's a great place to visit and the skiing at Whistler is world class.
But have you seen what's going on in Alberta? Incredible economic growth - but big swaths are being turned into a toxic lunarscape to fuel America's energy needs. More of the third world-ization of North America.
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Gonk
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3/24 12:58pm
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yes, it's quite crazy.
I haven't seen it myself -- I live on the extreme other end of the country -- but there is something of a one-track mind about it, and that bubble's going to burst in a few years, at least in terms of growth.
Canada's doing quite well overall still, but the downturn in the US is eventually going to spill over into here since a lot of well paying jobs are for US firms. Now that the US dollar is sinking, a lot of those are going to go back south, or over to India.
Of course, if you happen to work for an actual Canadian comapany, times are good. I'm going to have to think about looking into getting aboard with one.
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Lowbacca_1977
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3/26 2:38am
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Something I've been wondering about.... about 50% of American oil consumption goes to gasoline. Does anyone know of a good source for what the other 50% is?
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Jabbadabbado
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3/26 6:39am
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Lowbacca_1977
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3/26 1:19pm
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Awersome find, thanks.
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Paladin307
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I came across this article and found it to be pretty interesting. It seemed to go against the grain of most of what I heard as far as gas prices going up. I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on if what the guy is saying is true or not.
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ShaneP
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Does anyone know the % of people who have investments or shares of oil companies in their portfolios?
I ask this because of the sham congressional "hearings". It's clear the oil companies are going to contiue doing what they're doing while the democrats continue to carp about it while doing nothing to honestly move us away from it.
Could it be because they and their constituents have investments in these companies?
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king_alvarez
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4/7 12:41pm
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Handheld fusion
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Darth-Ghost
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4/7 4:13pm
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I'm surprised the government hasn't started an "Apollo Program"/"Manhattan Project" kind of undertaking for finding a real, cheap, and clean source of energy for our nation's transportation systems and power plants yet, to replace oil and the other fossil fuels. Is this not obvious? Will it not help both the economy and the environment, as well as technological advance and America's image & influence? I hope the next president, whoever it is, announces a full-blown project of the sort.
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Lowbacca_1977
Title: Senate Moderator
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4/7 4:32pm
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Well, I think part of it is that the dialogue has been broken because the people complaining aren't pushing for reasonable steps, they want an immediate switch to some solution that doesn't exist yet. So the focus is what that solution that doesn't exist yet is rather than how to work towards improving the situation.
For example, why we're not using more nuclear power as it would be a lot easier to replace the power plants going into the power grid than it would be to try to get all of America to change how they get around.
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Jabbadabbado
Title: Senate Floor Moderator
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4/9 12:45pm
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I'm surprised the government hasn't started an "Apollo Program"/"Manhattan Project" kind of undertaking for finding a real, cheap, and clean source of energy for our nation's transportation systems and power plants yet, to replace oil and the other fossil fuels. Is this not obvious? Will it not help both the economy and the environment, as well as technological advance and America's image & influence? I hope the next president, whoever it is, announces a full-blown project of the sort.
I think this will become more and attractive as the next president tries to devise a policy path through the recession. A massive public works project will, exactly as you describe, potentially kill three birds with the same stone: 1) create jobs and stimulate the economy, 2) improve America's overall long-term competitiveness by making our use of energy more efficient and give America a technological edge in significant emerging alternative energy markets and 3)help address the problem of CO2 emissions.
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