Ender_Sai posted:Authors and composers of music do this for a simple reason - to make money. And if you believe the "We're not in it for the money, we're in it for the fans" crap you're gullible to the point of pity.
Michael Fricklas posted:Is it fair to burden YouTube with finding content on its site that infringes others' copyright? Putting the burden on the owners of creative works would require every copyright owner, big and small, to patrol the Web continually on an ever-burgeoning number of sites. That's hardly a workable or equitable solution. And it would tend to disadvantage ventures such as the one recently announced by NBC Universal and News Corp. that are built on respect for copyright. Under the law, the obligation is right where it belongs: on the people who derive a benefit from the creative works and are in the position to keep infringement out of their businesses.
Michael Fricklas posted:Will forcing Google and YouTube to obey the law stifle innovation? Quite the opposite. Intellectual property is worth $650 billion a year to the U.S. economy. Not only does intellectual property drive our exports, it's a key part of what distinguishes developed economies from developing ones. Protecting intellectual property spurs investment and thereby the creation of new technologies and creative entertainment. This creates jobs and benefits consumers. Google and YouTube wouldn't be here if not for investment in software and technologies spurred by patent and copyright laws. It's time they respected them.
GrandAdmiralPelleaon posted:Ender_Sai posted:Authors and composers of music do this for a simple reason - to make money. And if you believe the "We're not in it for the money, we're in it for the fans" crap you're gullible to the point of pity. Wow, dude, that's just uhm, not true. I know plenty of bands who make nothing money wise and do it for the fun of it. I wouldn't say they're in it for the "fans", but for the music. Like a German band who plays around here from time to time. They've all got normal jobs because they can't even survive just from their music, and in the weekend they drive up to 2000 km to play shows for something like 500 €, do you really think they do that for the money? I played in a band myself, we were relatively succesful on a local level, we had a CD out in shops and all that but I never really made more money out of it than I could use to pay back the gas costs and a couple of beers. Don't transfer your liberal money-making attitude on me, please . We're working on a new project now and if you want you can have all the music for free. :P By the way, the bands ani listens to are fairly well known and they do in fact have videos on rotation on MTV late at night, and Nightwish is even on rotation during the day.
Ender_Sai posted:Anyone who turns professional as a musician, GAP, is by definition using money as a means of generating income. If they're not good enough, or simply not mainstream enough, to generate the level of income to be considered ultra-successful it doesn't change the fact that the distinction between a guy who plays gigs on the weekend and a professional musician is the motivation.
Ender_Sai posted: The fact that you like bands in Europe is as worthless to me and it once again doesn't convey any rights upon you with respect to accessing that music. You have no right to access any music unless you obtain that right which is done through legal means. Even for crappy Eurotrash bands that make mad little Anidanami even madder, \m/.
Ender_Sai posted: I thought I was losing my grip on sanity, but no, it was just from arguing with Anidanami. My issue is as much with the entitlement mentality consumers as it is with the companies because it is just a pissing contest between two exceptionally myopic, stupid entities who lack vision and foresight. I champion YouTube and the like as innovative ventures, but it depends on sensible consumer reactions and not toddler-like tantrums because i wanna wisten to Woowopean music! E_S
Kamelot live in Oslo "When the Lights are Down" video is posted on KamTV. KamTV has been in the top 30 most subscribed channels for 4 weeks straight. Kamelot's DVD "One Cold Winter's Night" is now out everywhere! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-nxMKiT8I Kamelot announced their first Russian (May 12th, Tochka, Moscow) and Finnish appearances (Helsinki and Tampere) for 2007's World Tour. Support act will be Leaves' Eyes.
