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KnightWriter
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Date Posted:
5/19/07 9:32pm
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RE: The Polyamorous Partner Movement
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Onoto posted:
This'll be fun once diz shows up.  Before he arrives and begins to accuse other posters of being immoral for saying something is immoral (still not sure about that one), I'll state my own viewpoint. I don't much like the idea of sex for sex's sake, or sex with multiple partners. It seems gratuitous.
If our culture valued multiple sex partners, or if any of us had been brought up in a region where it was normal, I doubt that anyone would find it gratuitous. There's plenty of "normal" sex that is either done for its own sake, and/or is gratuitous.
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ROTSFan
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Date Posted:
5/19/07 10:19pm
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RE: The Polyamorous Partner Movement
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Onoto posted:
This'll be fun once diz shows up. Before he arrives and begins to accuse other posters of being immoral for saying something is immoral (still not sure about that one), I'll state my own viewpoint. I don't much like the idea of sex for sex's sake, or sex with multiple partners. It seems gratuitous.
I think most more or less see things from your point of view. I just don't get how people, in a relationship at least, could sex around without it causing long term jealousy and serious hard feelings. I'm sure open dating's a different situation.
I think I understand what diz was trying to say about the "being immoral for saying something is immoral" idea; his views are unorthodox and when they come into conflict with someone else's or he feels attacked he probably perceives a threat to his rights, which he views as immoral. It does seem a little confusing at first glance, though.
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Lowbacca_1977
Title: Senate Moderator
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5/19/07 11:40pm
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ROTSFan posted:
I think most more or less see things from your point of view. I just don't get how people, in a relationship at least, could sex around without it causing long term jealousy and serious hard feelings. I'm sure open dating's a different situation.
Its all about having things understood... the problem in relationships, period, is when people are interpretting things differently as far as how acceptable certain behaviors may or may not be.
What exactly is open dating, anyway?
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ROTSFan
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5/20/07 9:27am
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What I meant by open dating is when you are essentially single, not committed to any one person, and just playing the field.
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ShaneP
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What I meant by open dating is when you are essentially single, not committed to any one person, and just playing the field.
Isn't that just what single people do? Now they have to have "open dating" just to do what singles should do.
Dating is about playing the field and meeting different girls/guys, new people.
People are in such a rush they now have things called "open dating". I always thought the whole idea of dating was that it was open.
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Lowbacca_1977
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5/20/07 11:24am
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See.... in that stance.... I'd consider it more of a no sex situation, personally, if its dating around. But thats just me.
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Onoto
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5/20/07 12:52pm
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ShaneP posted:
People are in such a rush they now have things called "open dating". I always thought the whole idea of dating was that it was open.
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ROTSFan
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ShaneP posted:
What I meant by open dating is when you are essentially single, not committed to any one person, and just playing the field.
Isn't that just what single people do? Now they have to have "open dating" just to do what singles should do.
Dating is about playing the field and meeting different girls/guys, new people.
People are in such a rush they now have things called "open dating". I always thought the whole idea of dating was that it was open.
Damn, we don't have to get so caught up on word games that we miss the point. Open dating, dating, **** buddies, whatever. Doesn't matter. Message was still the same. Sorry if I stated it in a way that confused you.
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ShaneP
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Date Posted:
5/20/07 3:15pm
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Calm down. 
I guess I've just been doing it wrong all this time. I should go out and get a serious girlfriend and then screw around.
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Personally, I've walked away from a girlfriend who wanted to bring someone else to bed because I don't believe in that kind of stuff. I wouldn't want to share her and I was hurt she would want to share me.
Each person needs to be careful when they introduce anothe rperson into an intimate relationship. It has to be completely mutual or it quickly falls apart. Plus, if both persons weren't onboard for something like that, it diminishes the enjoyment.
Who wants nonpleasurable sex? 
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dizfactor
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I have a lot to say here, but I'm crazy busy at work right now.
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darkcide
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5/21/07 1:59pm
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One of the biggest problems with monogamy is that it's way too easy for someone who is in what is supposed to be a monogomous relationship to go out and secretly have an affair,liason,fling or whatever with someone else,and that can have devastating effects on all those involved. So many people have gotten STD's from their cheating partners. In polyamory people can associate with more than one person without "sneaking around" and they are more likely to be careful about using protection in sexual encounters.
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Lowbacca_1977
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5/21/07 2:34pm
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Ok, I take serious issue with the logic there. Just how, exactly, does having multiple partners while sneaking around lead to less safe sex? Also, doesn't that ignore the people that stick to monogamy because they're supposed to and inhibit the spread of STDs?
How many have gotten STDs from cheating partners? And wouldn't most poeple that cheat imply that the partner they are with wouldn't be ok with it to begin with, and so if one person was publicly polyamorous, the other would be leave the relationship?
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SuperWatto
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5/21/07 2:56pm
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Yeah that was a totally nonsensical and arbitrary post right there. There's actually a coupla questions you forgot to ask, Lowbacca, like 'how is it "way to easy" to cheat in a monogamous relationship, as opposed to the other thing' or 'Why the hell would one group be "more likely to be careful" than the other'.
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Lowbacca_1977
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I think I covered the second question somewhat, but the first question I didn't cover. But yeah, both of those points as well.
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ShaneP
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5/21/07 3:21pm
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One of the biggest problems with monogamy is that it's way too easy for someone who is in what is supposed to be a monogomous relationship to go out and secretly have an affair,liason,fling or whatever with someone else.
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