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Listening to talk radio or watching news tv, is it difficult to detach yourself from political bias?
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BobaFrank
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2/18 11:08pm
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Listening to talk radio or watching news tv, is it difficult to detach yourself from political bias?
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Example, I used to listen to NPR religiously for years. Still do, but sometimes I can't because I feel they have a liberal agenda. Same with watching news channels such as FOXNEWS, or MSNBC, or CNN. Of course there are conservative agendas as well. For me, mainly with NPR, I just don't enjoy it as much because I let politics interfere.
Has politics affected how or what you listen to or watch in the media?
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Lane_Winree
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I can honestly say I can't listen to NPR or FOX news anymore. I'm not happy when the journalistic bias is that visible.
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Lord_Vivec
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Watching Fox News is like punching myself repeatedly in the face. I can't. Five minutes into Hannity and the stuff he says is so...wow.
I just stick to MSNBC now.
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Lane_Winree
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After FOX News insisting that Wacko-Jacko Thompson is an authority figure on video game violence, I've permanently written them off as a credible news outlet.
That said, I find CNN just as repulsive as FOX.
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J-Rod
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Lane_Winree posted:
After FOX News insisting that Wacko-Jacko Thompson is an authority figure on video game violence, I've permanently written them off as a credible news outlet.
That said, I find CNN just as repulsive as FOX.
Huh? I saw The Live Desk with Martha McCallum where they covered that topic. I certainly didn't come away with Thompson being any kind of authority on the subject.
The topic was also covered on Red Eye. Both shows were talking about Mass Effect. Neither seemed to conclude that video games were damaging. In fact they seemed to slant the other way.
On what show did you see the topic covered?
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J-Rod, I want whatever you are smoking. (After I wrote this I just remembered you quit tobacco, which is a good thing for me  )
I can't stand FoxNews, but I did catch a clip of them talking about Mass Effect. I think the girl they had on there talking out of her a** on something she had no basic knowledge of was indicative of the level of authority such pundits have, and she rightly deserved the backlash for speaking on a subject which she was so ignorant of.
I can listen to media that has an opinion, as long as I can not dismiss everything they say as stupidity.
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J-Rod
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2/18 11:57pm
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Espaldapalabras posted:
J-Rod, I want whatever you are smoking. (After I wrote this I just remembered you quit tobacco, which is a good thing for me )
I can't stand FoxNews, but I did catch a clip of them talking about Mass Effect. I think the girl they had on there talking out of her a** on something she had no basic knowledge of was indicative of the level of authority such pundits have, and she rightly deserved the backlash for speaking on a subject which she was so ignorant of.
I can listen to media that has an opinion, as long as I can not dismiss everything they say as stupidity.
It would take more than a clip. See, being fair and balaced means that all points of view are disscussed. As such, there were two guests pro and two con about violent vidoe games. So there were opinions expressed about banning the game. The take away was that it's up to the parents. At least on The Live Desk.
Red Eye just made jokes. 
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J-Rod posted:
See, being fair and balaced means that all points of view are disscussed.
Like the 'liberal' jokers they bring on who don't do anything but stammer and let the host and his conservative guest(s) talk over them? I could give better counter-arguments than most of the clowns Fox trots out for five seconds at a time in order to pretend their coverage shows 'both sides' of the argument.
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Lowbacca_1977
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2/19 1:45am
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Well, the first thing worth seperating is... are we talking about bias in political commentary, where opinion is a given, or are we talking about news outlets where there can at least be a reasonable hope for an unbiased account?
I'm hit or miss with some of the commentary... I listen to talk radio a whole lot when I'm driving, but there I'm listening to hear some news mixed in with a lot of opinion. I get most of my hard news online, and I've not generally noticed much slant on the AP stories and the like though stuff like Yahoo! news. Occasionally, but not too frequently.
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Lowbacca_1977 posted:
Well, the first thing worth seperating is... are we talking about bias in political commentary, where opinion is a given, or are we talking about news outlets where there can at least be a reasonable hope for an unbiased account?
I'm hit or miss with some of the commentary... I listen to talk radio a whole lot when I'm driving, but there I'm listening to hear some news mixed in with a lot of opinion. I get most of my hard news online, and I've not generally noticed much slant on the AP stories and the like though stuff like Yahoo! news. Occasionally, but not too frequently.
Since most news on the cable news channels involves an impartial host interviewing the two (and only two) opinionated sides, there is hardly any hard news on TV except for the occasional documentary type special.
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J-Rod
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:
J-Rod posted:
See, being fair and balanced means that all points of view are discussed.
Like the 'liberal' jokers they bring on who don't do anything but stammer and let the host and his conservative guest(s) talk over them? I could give better counter-arguments than most of the clowns Fox trots out for five seconds at a time in order to pretend their coverage shows 'both sides' of the argument.
See, you are confusing shows like The Factor with shows like Studio B, The Live Desk, or Your World. When opinions are given to a host who has bias, it changes the dynamic.
IMO, Shepard Smith, Martha MacCallum or Neil Cavuto are usually moderators. Cavuto tends to call guests on misstatements, but otherwise he's fairly centered in his hosting duties.
But Hannity, Combs, O'Rielly ect, are simply opinion hosts. This is also why their shows get big ratings. They offer honest perspective, not hidden agendas.
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Alpha-Red
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I don't watch news on television, but I do read news articles off cnn.com quite often. I dunno, I'm not picking up any bias whatsoever....is it just because I'm not discerning enough or is it just more difficult to put spins onto a written article?
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Generally, I've found written to be better than tv for avoiding bias. That said, when I got the New York Times, I couldn't STAND some of the bias in some of the articles.
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I think a lot of these guys -- Hannity, Gibson, Limbaugh, Igman -- are in for a serious fall in the near future. I think people are just about done with them and they're going the way of Ann Coulter.
O'reilly I think will survive; he's not what you'd call "fair and balanced" and has a big mouth, but he's actually not as absolutely unfair as these other guys tend to be on average.
In other words, he's sort of like Archie Bunker. Which is about as "fair and balanced" as FOX can get.
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I actually go out of my way to attempt to get stories and opinions from both sides with known bias.
I spent a few years engaging in nothing but listening to the opinions of people firmly entrenched on my side of the fence, and usually further to the extreme than me. And while I enjoyed the experience while it was happening and got a zip in my step to support some causes, I felt I was ill prepared to understand the totality of what was happening in the world around me.
Now, I've certainly become more centric on some issues thanks to my departure from listening to only one side, but I've also become more grounded in my core beliefs, because I more fully understand the opinions and agenda of the other side. And it certainly helps me in making decisions, engaging others in debate, and persuading others to my point of view.
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the ownership elites want it to be difficult for you to detach yourself, of course. make you think this garbage they give us is objective journalism when all it is corporate propagandist drivel. trust me, pundit news and right-wing (trash)talk radio does a harmful disservice to both the liberal AND conservative p.o.v.'s, mainly by attempting to trick the consumer that there is SUCH a huge gap between liberals and conservatives in America, and there really isnt. of course the extremes of both ideologies are going to be miles apart but the centers are real,real close. and yet more and more, seemingly every week, in newsrooms in both the United States and Europe, editors and producers are portraying this extreme behaviour as the norm. any honest political scientist worth his title will concede that this, coupled with the centralization of power seemingly everywhere, in every walk of life, and now for the first time on a truly global scale, that we are in a fascist shift. i believe that, too. so to me whats happening in the media is just another false flag operation to bring not just the people of America under one control but all people in the western hemisphere. crazy? maybe...
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