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PurpleSaberJedi Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 12/24/01 9:36am Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	come on little thread! live! live!! up! -----signature----- "GGGGGGGG SEVON!!!!!!" "You just pressed G8" "If you like pina coladas..."
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King-Jellyrobes Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 12/24/01 2:31pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	Little thread? Yeah right. I haven't read the entire thread, and with over 600 posts, I'm not going to, at least not right now! I just wanted to make my opinion clear on this. I am definitely pro-life, and I don't think very highly of pro-choice activists. It's just my opinion, but anyone who would kill something that could be a great life someday is not exactly the type of person I'd like to make friends with, or probably even have tea with. It just unsettles the ol' gut some. -----signature----- My intuition nearly makes up for my lack of good judgement..
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Obi-Wan McCartney Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 12/24/01 5:19pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	It must sadden you to know that an overwhelming majority of the popoulation is for a woman's right to choose will only a small vocal minority stands to circumvent the constitution with their conservative attitude. -----signature----- God Bless J-Rod's Wife! Obi-Wan McCartney: Model Forum Member since 1999! America's Beatles are far better than England's precious Rolling Stones
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Jedi_Xen Registered: Sep '01	Date Posted: 12/24/01 7:43pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	Yeah legal murder does sadden me. All life deserves a shot to live. -----signature----- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-Theodore Roosevelt
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Obi-Wan McCartney Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 12/24/01 8:09pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	I take it every one of you people who is pro-life is also anti-death penalty. I am anti-death penalty, and I can respect the notion of pro-life only if it isn't hypocritical. -----signature----- God Bless J-Rod's Wife! Obi-Wan McCartney: Model Forum Member since 1999! America's Beatles are far better than England's precious Rolling Stones
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King-Jellyrobes Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 12/24/01 10:51pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	You're damn right it saddens me. Abortion is playing God.. or worse, it's playing the ultimate evil. God plans every life. By shutting that life down, I doubt you are looked upon favorably by either Him or a large slice of your fellow man. -----signature----- My intuition nearly makes up for my lack of good judgement..
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Ender Registered: Aug '98	Date Posted: 12/24/01 10:53pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	Does god plan genetic defects in babies?
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TPMrules23 Registered: Apr '00	Date Posted: 12/25/01 5:42pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	It's not about life, Jedi_Xen. Bacteria on your body is 'life.' So obviously there is something that seperates humans from other life that makes us consider it more special and worthy of constitutional rights. -----signature----- Padme EII: http://www.angelfire.com/ma3/sw/padme.html Natalie thread: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=1523868&page=1 http://www.starwars.com/img/homepages/femalewarrior/left_character.jpg "Cuz they win when your soul dies" - Tupac
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Darkside_Spirit Registered: Sep '01	Date Posted: 12/26/01 9:02am Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	http://stardestroyer.net/Creationism/Essays/PlayingGod.shtml I don't wish to be unnecessarily insulting, but the "don't play God" argument is truly ridiculous.
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Darkside_Spirit Registered: Sep '01	Date Posted: 12/26/01 9:10am Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	BTW, I strongly advise avoiding the link I just offered if you are in any way easily offended. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! The basic essence of it is: we have been playing God for centuries e.g. agriculture; furthermore, it is inappropriate to impose individual religious constrictions upon everyone in a multireligious country.
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Obi-Wan McCartney Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 12/26/01 10:22am Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	"By shutting that life down, I doubt you are looked upon favorably by either Him or a large slice of your fellow man.." -Two points. 1, what about the death penalty? and 2, maybe a large slice, but the majority of man and I are ok, just religous right and conservative folk, but I don't get along with them anyway...Also, it might surprise you to know that I am in no way connected with abortion, I'm not an abortion doctor, lobbyist, I have never voted on it either way. It's already legal and I'm allright with that, and so is everybody else. -----signature----- God Bless J-Rod's Wife! Obi-Wan McCartney: Model Forum Member since 1999! America's Beatles are far better than England's precious Rolling Stones
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PurpleSaberJedi Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 12/26/01 6:35pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	I myself am against the death-penalty, not because I can't stand to let people die, but because people can be on death row FOREVER. Writing their little autobiographies, shattering our safe feeling at home by doing interview after interview broadcasted all over our country. The death penalty is also a very, very pleasant way to die. I am not a revengeful person, I like to stay away from revenge. But, it is certainly not fair for those who massly murder to recieve a lovely, peaceful, non-painful in any way sort of death. I know, this thread is about pro-choice and pro-life. My apologises, I got swept away. So... Tell me, have you ever met a "mean fetus?" Have you ever met a fetus filled with hate and rage that it had been plotting for years to kill or destroy? To tell you the truth, I really haven't. You can't compare the ruthless gestures and criminal hearts of those people who are sentenced to the death penalty to innocent fetuses who haven't developed fingers and toes. (Let alone any body strutcure) A totally irrational comparison. An innocent person is most RARELY killed by death penalty. How many innocent lives are killed by abortion? This comparison simply doesn't work. "It's already legal and I'm allright with that, and so is everybody else." Have you read this thread? Many, many people not just in this thread but around the world would devote their very lives to see that it is illegal. If you're okay with it, that's your opinion. Not everyone elses. -----signature----- "GGGGGGGG SEVON!!!!!!" "You just pressed G8" "If you like pina coladas..."
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Jediflyer Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 12/26/01 8:56pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	The argument that fetuses are not human and do not deserve basic human rights because they are just a ball of cells/they have no functioning organs/are solely dependent on their mother are no different than: 1) People with Down Syndrome are not human because they have an extra chromosome and their brains are not developed as fully as ours are. 2) Senior citizens in nursing homes have no rights because they cannot live by themselves with out the help of nurses. 3) Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians have no rights because they do not look like us. Another point that needs refutation is the argument that whatever the Supreme Court says is right and good and should not be changed. I urge all people who support this argument to tell the African-Americans in this country that they do not have any rights. While your at that, why don't you go so far as to force all the African-Americans back on to plantations in chains. The Supreme Court supported keeping the blacks in bondage for almost a century and held up restrictions on them for almost two centuries. The Constitution is not much better. When it was first created, and for many years after that, blacks counted as 3/5 of a person. The Constitution obviously thought that blacks where not quite human, just like many pro-choicers and the Supreme Court think today about embryos and fetuses. Laws and courts can be wrong. When they are, the laws need to be changed and the courts reformed. -----signature----- As long as the differences and diversities of mankind exist, democracy must allow for compromise, for accommodation, and for the recognition of differences. -Eugene McCarthy There are no dialogues, only intersecting monologues -Mark Twain
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megHan Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 12/26/01 11:05pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	i haven't read all of the posts, just don't have that kinda time on my hands. my opinion is this: i'm pro-life. i think that abortion is murder when you are killing something that could become a great addition or help to society and a wonderful person. in the same way, it could become another convict on death row, but so could anyone else. when you practice abortion, you are killing something that has no way to defend itself. -----signature----- "Absolutely not," Corran said with a frown. "You're not going to the dark side on my watch. Do it on Luke's" I'm not psycho, i'm just not user friendly. Can't sleep, clones will eat me. Can't sleep clones will eat me. Can't sleep.......
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keiran_helcyan Registered: Dec '99	Date Posted: 12/26/01 11:42pm Subject: RE: pro-life or pro-choice?
	I think all fetuses at least deserve a shot at life. Doesn't our nation's own Declaration of Independence say "We are enowed by certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty and the pursuit of hapiness". Shouldn't we at least give our people a shot at life then? And who's to say a fetus isn't living? What makes a child one minute after being born different, from the same child one minute before being born? What makes a child 8 months developed different from a child 9 months developed? A child 3 months developed (the magical date set by the supreme court) different from a child 2 months and 29 days developed? The simple fact is, we can't really pinpoint the "exact moment" the child becomes "living". Brain waves, heart beating, its all one long process, at no point can we accurately say "Ah-ha! Now its living! We can't terminate it now!" To just say the unborn child is dead in all cases is foolish and near-sighted; it'd be like finding your Grandma collapsed on the floor and going "oh well she's probably dead, might as well just burry her now". Oh and FYI when I say I'm pro-life I mean it: anti-abortion, and anti-capital punishment. Life is precious, don't toss it out unless you have no other option. -----signature----- We're just two lost souls swimmin' in a fish bowl, year after year. Running over the same old ground, Have you found the same old fears? Wish you were here.
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