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Yodave27
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2/8/02 9:02pm
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Should NYC get the 2012 Olympics?
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After 9-11 many cities around the world have thrown their support behind New York City hosting the 2012 Summer Olympics. Do you think this is fair? And should New York (my hometown and in my mind the greatest city in the world) win because of the sympathy factor?
I am in favor of hosting the Olympics for the reason that it would force city officials to upgrade the dilapidated sports arena. One thing that concerns me however would be the traffic. The thought of ALL those people on the roads, useing the Subways *shudder*.
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Just because a city had buildings knocked down doesn't mean they should get the Olympics. If that is true, give it to London, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Kabul, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Belfast, Dublin, Dresden...you see where I am going here.
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JediGaladriel
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2/8/02 9:28pm
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The U.S. has hosted several Olympics in recent years, so I think we should be looking at other countries. Obviously, it has to be a country with the financial wherewithal to build the facilities, but maybe someplace new would be good. How about England? Has England ever hosted?
As far as NYC goes, I think it's a good city (as a Bostonian, of course, I can't say that it's the best  ), but the traffic would be really awful. It's so crowded at all times -- to suddenly have the entire world descend on it... and where would they build Olympic village? As much as I think that something should be done for NYC to give it a positive event, I'm not sure the Olympics are the right event for it. (Then again, aren't the Chinese Olympics in Shanghai? I don't know a lot about China, but I always had the impression that Shanghai was a very crowded place. If they can handle the traffic flow... )
The problem with America's hosting, which I'm not sure the rest of the world realizes, is the way cities compete with each other within the country. "But Los Angeles had them! Why not New York?" And I think Boston has a great summer Olympics setup, with lots of good rivers for rowing, running trails, etc. And as a former Buffalonian, I'm naturally convinced that Buffalo/Niagara Falls makes more practical sense than New York City. And this is ignoring that New York State has hosted twice in Lake Placid, because neither people in NYC nor Buffalo would think that ought to disqualify them.
Salt Lake City makes a wonderful winter Olympics site, and I'm surprised it took them so long to get it, or that they needed to resort to any ethically questionable incentives (as was alleged). The South has hosted, the West has hosted. I'd like to see a New England games to show the world our corner of America, but the truth is, the rest of the world deserves a shot, too, and I always love to see the little asides about the host city.
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Jedi_Xen
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I think New York city could handle it, they host the Goodwill games (though its not as big as the Olympics.) and I think the Worlds Fair Grounds might be a good place to place the Olympic Village.
But I dont know if it should get it for reasons of sympathy.
(Ill admit I never been to NYC, but I think its a good choice. Maybe they can get a good Olympic stadium and eventually get the NFL to let them host a Super Bowl too)
Edit: JG London had games in either 46 or 48, only problem I see with England hosting games is the constant rain, but still that shouldnt disclude them, perhaps they can make a bid here soon too.
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Jedi_Xen
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George15
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No i dont think NY should get the 2012 olympics, because frankly i hate NY.If there going to have it in an american city again i think it should be in a smaller city like the one i live by indianapolis(wich in my opinion is the greatist city in the world).
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Darth_Dagsy
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if they put a bid together that shows they deserve it, then let them have it.
they shouldnt get it out of sympathy. that wouldnt be right.
if it were my city (Sydney), i wouldnt want to win out of sympathy.
mind you, we won because of the cutesy angle with a 12yo girl helping our bid 
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TripleB
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Couple of things of note.
First is that the City of New York does not have an olympic standard stadium, ie with a track and such. That is almost mandatory for a venue to get it.
The only way I seem them getting that, is if they renovated Yankee Stadium extensively.
New York City would be a better candidate to host the Winter Olympics, to tell you the truth.
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Yodave27
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TripleB, there are talks for a West Side stadium, that would be sweet.
Oh and if the only reason that you have tp post here is that you hate NY, then don't.
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No more Olympics in the US!
Canada has ideal conditions for Winter Olympics. Most of the great ski hills in the world can be found here. Only watch your step. This place can get a bit rough. 
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Obi Anne
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Still you managed to build some of the worst ski jumping hills for Calgary '88!
And I don't think NYC should get it because of sympathy, if they get it it should be because they deserve it.
And if you complain about the traffic, don't go to Athens 2004.
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I was commenting about Calgary to my friends tonight, actually. What do you expect? Of coures Calgary was a poor choice for winter Olympics - it's flat!
The province of British Columbia has some world class hills. That's where it's at!
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Darth_Dagsy
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apparently they have world class blizzards as well.
and an american head of state? why did bush open the olympics?
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Vaderbait
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I don't think any US cities should host for a while. The past 20 years have had a LOT of the games take place in the US. Give some other countries a shot.
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Yodave27
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because its tradition. I remember in Nagano in '98, the Emeperor opened the ceremonies. Oh and how cool was Bush saying that speech with the athletes, most leaders just say it from high up somewhere.
I should explain 2012 is a summer year, not winter. The main competitiion for NYC is Toronto and some other US cities.
And speaking of Canada, I think Vancouver would be perfect for a winter Olympics, its a great city.
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I think North America should get the 2012 Olympics for purely personal reasons.
I do like the way in which countries from all over the world host the Olympics. Maybe some others should get a chance to host them.
I'd love to see them in NYC, Toronto, or even some other city because I want to go sometime and it's a ton easier to go if its closer. I wish I coulda gone to Salt Lake City, but I couldn't, so here's hopin for next time 
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I'd like to see Vancouver get the winter games as they are situated in a perfect spot for them. They already have the needed facilities.
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