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Kessel Runner
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3/5/02 8:28pm
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The current stage of the appeals is being handled by the SAME judge.
Free the West Memphis Three!
Henry Rollins is performing a benefit show for them this Friday in LA at the Troubadour.
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Palpazzar
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3/5/02 8:36pm
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I see in your sig that you want them freed.
While I see the problem with the judge's behavior, I hope there is another reason you want them freed.
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Kessel Runner
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3/5/02 8:43pm
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Yeah,
they are innocent. There is hard physical evidence and forensic evidence to prove they couldn't have done it, but the judge and jury didn't care about that because they were "satan worshippers". WHen in truth, they didn't even believe in the devil, they just wore black and listened to Metallica.
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Palpazzar
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3/5/02 8:45pm
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I'm not doubting you. But what evidence was there for innocent?
I remember the HBO special, but didn't watch it.
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Kessel Runner
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3/5/02 8:54pm
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The first one raises questions, the second answers them. There are bite marks on the boys. Bites from a human mouth that don't match any of the three arrested kids. They didn't know the victims. They were convicted on the confession of one of the three who has an IQ of 72 (permanent 5 year old level) after almost 12 hours of interrogation (of which only the final 45 minutes were recorded) and all of the details in his confession don't match the actual crime scene or evidence.
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Surely the state had something besides the confession of the one boy. Wasn't there some physical evidence the state had?
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Kessel Runner
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If you'd like to see the full details you can visit the site, but no. They had heresay witnesses (some 12 year old softball players who said they heard Damien bragging about it, but couldn't remember if he was near them or far away or if he was whispering or shouting). That had no murder weapons, no finger print evidence, no physical evidence at all.
In fact the following quote is from the father of one of the victims: My name is Rick Murray, and I am the biological father of Christopher, one of the three boys who were murdered in West Memphis, Arkansas in 1993. I'm making this statement to say that I am not satisfied with the investigation of my son's murder. I am not satisfied with the verdicts of the trials, and I want everyone to know that I believe the wrong people are in prison for this crime.
I have many reasons for feeling this way. I know the people who are close to this thing, and I know that people were mad about it, and they were wanting it to be solved quick. It got to the point where they weren't thinking about the truth, they were only listening to what the police and the reporters were telling them.
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Interesting.
What do you think of the missile attacks of President Clinton in December of 1997?
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3/5/02 11:11pm
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In regards to the case KR is talking about, I want to point out one thing. There was a forensic pathologist who worked in FL, TX and WV, who falsified DNA reports and other evidence in order to incriminate the suspect the DA wanted to prosecute. The more they've investigated, the more it appears a lot of people were in on the scam. The guy did this for years before anyone bothered to expose him.
And why? Because it's easier to fake a few reports than to really investigate and find out who committed the crime. Think about it - even if all of us here never took shortcuts in any job we ever had, I'm sure we all know people who did. Imagine those same people being cops, or lawyers, or forensic pathologists. Would you trust results based on their work? Unfortunately, we do it every day, and even send people to death row because of it.
I won't reply to the points on abortion since the subject is closed, but I do want to go on record saying that some of what I've said was, I'm pretty sure, misinterpreted. And I'm sure I misinterpreted some of the arguments on the other end. But that's KR's point - we're going to misinterpret because we are passionate about the subject, and that's why there's no point discussing it.
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GreedoCMZ
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If you abort a fetus, whether or not you term it 'life,' you have to know that you are preventing it from achieving its full potential. Hence the word abortion.
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Kessel Runner
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3/6/02 5:10pm
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Greedo, we're not doing that anymore.
Thanks for the support there. Oh, and that is another thing. The "expert" on occult the Prosecution brought in during the first trial earned his degree through a correspondance course.
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GreedoCMZ
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Okay, no more abortion comments from me in this thread. Does this thread have any particular direction now anyways?
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TreeCave
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3/6/02 8:18pm
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The "expert" on occult the Prosecution brought in during the first trial earned his degree through a correspondance course.
Obviously. Real Satanists, i.e. members of the Church of Satan in San Francisco, do not participate in bloody rituals or orgies. Real Satanists do not "worship Satan" - they are dedicated to exposing the hypocrisy they perceive in Christianity, that's all. It's just a belief - there's no criminal activity involved.
If there are actual "Satan worshippers" out there, I don't believe they're an organized group of any sort. This widespread "satanic cult" figure that pops up in every issue of Weekly World News is pretty much just a myth.
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Jedi_Master201
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"...they are dedicated to exposing the hypocrisy they perceive in Christianity, that's all."
So it's okay for others to attack Christianity, but it's not okay for Christians to attack other religions?
I just want to know one thing, TreeCave: Are you okay with what the Church of Satan is dedicated to?
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Kessel Runner
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Actually, as long as you are attacking the false behavior of a belief system (i.e. they say they are pacifists but always fight wars, etc.), then that is fine. The Church of Satan does that. They attack the fallacies of the operation of Christianity.
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