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Guinastasia
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Date Posted:
9/26/05 9:34pm
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RE: Catholicism
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Jedi_Liz posted:
I've never been to a Latin Mass and one reason is that I don't think I could follow along and the other reason is the use of incese. I have problems when my parish uses it and they only use it a few times a year.
You aren't kidding. When I was in parochial school, whenever incense was used, someone ALWAYS ended up having to leave because they either had to vomit, or someone would pass out. (Of course, being kids, this made it more interesting-watching to see if someone would faint or puke)
My mother fainted at her own 8th grade graduation between the incense and the stuffy heat in the church. She had to be carried out by the janitor.
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Jansons_Funny_Twin
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Date Posted:
9/26/05 9:57pm
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Jabba-wocky posted:
Janson, I think the answer you are looking for is this.
Catholics have developed a wide variety of reasons why they use Latin. However, there is no Biblical mandate to conduct service in only language. One of the original and long-standing reasons for the division between Catholics and Protestants is that believe in the primacy of the Bible, whereas Catholics do not take it as the sole and final authority for determining how things ought to be done.
As a result, Catholics have attached great significance to certain procedures, even when there was no suggestion or precedence that this ought to be done Biblically (though, neither, to be fair, is their anything prohibiting doing things like that in most cases, as I understand). This is one such example.
Yeah, that makes sense. I'd forgotten about that part. 
Thanks!
Guinastasia posted:
My mother fainted at her own 8th grade graduation between the incense and the stuffy heat in the church. She had to be carried out by the janitor.
Ah, so it isn't just Protestant Churches that seem to forego the AC.
Ah, inter-denominational solidarity.
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KnightWriter posted:
Paul never argued that people could simply practice Christianity any way they wanted
Never claimed he did.
Instead, he basically said to them that salvation was assured through Jesus Christ. There was nothing they could do to lose it, and therefore they could do whatever they wanted.
Sounds a lot like Martin Luther.
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For years now, I have not believed in anything. I'm not sure I do believe in God still, but my grandmother just passed away last week and I loved her very much. She was a Catholic and she had a strong faith. I would rather believe she's somewhere happy and peaceful than just wormfood, but I still have problem with faith.
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Jedi_Liz
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YoungVader, I'll pray for your grandmother.  I am sure that she's in the arms of Jesus right now watching over you.
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youngvader posted:
For years now, I have not believed in anything. I'm not sure I do believe in God still, but my grandmother just passed away last week and I loved her very much. She was a Catholic and she had a strong faith. I would rather believe she's somewhere happy and peaceful than just wormfood, but I still have problem with faith.
I'll say a pray for you, and for your grandmother.
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doc4converse
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10/19/05 10:39pm
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Prayers sent for you youngvader and for your grandmother. Although I would have to agree with Jedi_Liz that she is in heaven now. I miss my own grandmother. She a died few years ago, and she always prayed for me. Knowing that someone is always praying for you without asking is very comforting.
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GrandAdmiralThrawn66
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Ya it is, My Grandmother used to say the rosary for me and it made me feel good to know she was praying for me while i was busy with life.
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It was truly the only she could do at her age - to pray for all of us in the family. I remember as a child praying the Rosary every Sunday evening with family. It stopped once we moved to the South due to lack of time. My grandmother had lots of time.
The day she died (she was back home in her country), everyone in our family who could went to my aunt's house and prayed the Rosary and Novenas.
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I also pray for your grandmother YoungVader.
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I went to Mass today and didn't need to do any volunteer work during that time so I got to focus on the Mass more than usual.
The homily was based on Jesus's Two Great Commandments, which was the Gospel Reading today. I was just wondering what anyone's thoughts are on the relationship of these Two to the Ten Commandments given in the Old Testament within the Catholic Teachings.
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I can give you my view on the ten commandments: they are only 50% correct. 5 of them are bull****.
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Jedi_Liz
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10/29/05 1:55pm
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doc4converse was referring to the two commandments that Jesus spoke of in the Gospel, NOT the 10 commandments.
'Love your neighbor as yourself' is a good way to live your life - be kind to people because that's the way you'd want to be treated.
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I am sad to say that I have never visited the Cathoic church but would like to, I have been inside several cathedrals, but never been to mass.
I have had mixed feelings toward the Catholic Church. On one hand it teaches of Christ and does many good things, and helps people become better people, on the other hand it keeps many from greater truths and has been misused by some evil men.
To me, other than my own it is the only one that could plausibly be the only true church because it actually tries to claim a lineage from Peter, but it doesn't take long to look at the history and see that it has changed very much throughout it's history, and there have been many times that the leadership did things that were wrong.
However the greatest things are the non-biblical practices and doctrines that were introduced. And of those I would say infant sprinking baptism, the lack of the same organization of the original church with prophets and apostles, and the sale of indulgences stand out.
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