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darthOB1
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2/26/07 7:55am
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RE: Catholicism
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Interesting tidbit.................
The book The Non-Christian Cross, by J. D. Parsons (London, 1896), says: "There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross.....
It is not a little misleading upon the part of our teachers to translate the word stauros as "cross" when rendering the Greek documents of the Church into our native tongue, and to support that action by putting "cross" in our lexicons as the meaning of stauros without carefully explaining that that was at any rate not the primary meaning of the word in the days of the Apostles, did not become its primary signification till long afterwards, and became so then, if at all, only because, despite the absence of corroborative evidence, it was for some reason or other assumed that the particular stauros upon which Jesus was executed had that particular shape.”—Pp. 23, 24; see also The Companion Bible (London, 1885), Appendix No. 162.
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DarthFacetious
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6/30/07 10:46pm
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When I asked a nun that serves in my church about it, she said (almost verbatim), "I wear the crucifix to remind me how much God loved the world and the people, past and present. If God willingly sacrificed His Son, shouldn't I follow and sacrifice from myself for the greater good? That's why I wear one - to remind me that self-sacrifice for the greater good is what we should be doing."
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon
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7/1/07 10:23am
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DarthFacetious posted:
When I asked a nun that serves in my church about it, she said (almost verbatim), "I wear the crucifix to remind me how much God loved the world and the people, past and present. If God willingly sacrificed His Son, shouldn't I follow and sacrifice from myself for the greater good? That's why I wear one - to remind me that self-sacrifice for the greater good is what we should be doing."
This is exactly why I'm always so confused that Catholics aren't bigger fans of communism or socialism.
Well, other than the Jesuits I know. They're total pinkos. 
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Lord_Vivec
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7/1/07 10:29am
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:
DarthFacetious posted:
When I asked a nun that serves in my church about it, she said (almost verbatim), "I wear the crucifix to remind me how much God loved the world and the people, past and present. If God willingly sacrificed His Son, shouldn't I follow and sacrifice from myself for the greater good? That's why I wear one - to remind me that self-sacrifice for the greater good is what we should be doing."
This is exactly why I'm always so confused that Catholics aren't bigger fans of communism or socialism.
Well, other than the Jesuits I know. They're total pinkos.
Communism says that since "happiness" is achieved on Earth, Religion is no longer necessary, and then the USSR proceeded to persecute Christians. So, I really doubt Catholics would be big fans of Communism.
As for socialism, I'm not sure. In my Social Justice class, Catholicism is a big supporter of Capitalism, more accurately, a Modified Free Enterprise Economy. As long as the little guy isn't getting screwed, Catholics will be happy.
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Jediflyer
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In many Latin American countries, Catholics are big supporters Marxist viewpoints. You can look up Liberation Theology for more.
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Lord_Vivec
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Jediflyer posted:
In many Latin American countries, Catholics are big supporters Marxist viewpoints. You can look up Liberation Theology for more.
I'm talking about mainstream Catholicism, you know, with the pope and such.
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ophelia
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7/1/07 11:20am
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:
This is exactly why I'm always so confused that Catholics aren't bigger fans of communism or socialism.
Yeah, it's a "no" on Communism, because of the Marxist "opiate of the people" thing, but the Vatican definitely supports socialism--or at least fails to support more laissez-faire forms of capitalism. Both JPII and Benedict XVI have been very critical of "unbridled" capitalism. The idea is that excessive competition encourages selfishness and forgetfulness of duties toward the poor.
Liberation Theology is something else, however. At the most basic level, it's part of a millennias-old debate within the Church--namely, just how literally should we take Jesus' statement, "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." Many religious orders take vows of poverty because they believe that teaching should be taken literally. Vows of poverty remain voluntary, however, since the Church's position has always been that "spiritual poverty" is also acceptable--meaning that you can have possessions, so long as you remember that they belong to God, not you, and that you only have them for the purpose of doing his work.
On another level, Liberation Theology is a response to the often-appalling living conditions of the poor in some Latin American countries. It was condemned by the Holy Office ages ago, and people who won't quit promoting it can be excommunicated. The controversial elements involve politicizing the figure of Christ.
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Darth_Overlord
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7/12/07 10:59am
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Since there is so much confusion on the topic, questions on RESPONSES TO SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE DOCTRINE ON THE CHURCH?
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Sima_Sith
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7/12/07 11:10am
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Darth_Overlord posted:
Since there is so much confusion on the topic, questions on RESPONSES TO SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE DOCTRINE ON THE CHURCH?
When in doubt, just go the the Vatican website 
For a second I thought that was the CDF's DOMINUS IESUS.
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Darth_Overlord
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7/12/07 11:18am
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Nope, that's the name of the document (document with the really long name for short)
It is essentially a reiteration of Dominus Iesus, isn't it? With plenty of quotations from Vatican 2 (which of course the Pope is backsliding on by approving this document! )
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Sima_Sith
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GrandAdmiralThrawn66
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I'm just glad Latin mass is back.
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Lord_Vivec
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GrandAdmiralThrawn66 posted:
I'm just glad Latin mass is back.
That makes you and Jello.
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Sima_Sith
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Lord_Vivec posted:
GrandAdmiralThrawn66 posted:
I'm just glad Latin mass is back.
That makes you and Jello.
And me. 
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DVCPRO-HDeditor
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11/13/07 7:02pm
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Pop quiz! Off the top of your head (no Google, Wiki or anything else - just your own brain): Why is The Ten Commandments on TV every Easter?
(I'll explain what's going on after I get a few responses.)
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